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Pegasus Seiya vs Yuya Sakaki

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Summary: Pegasus Seiya is informed by Athena that Yuya Sakaki is a huge threat to humanity and must be captured or eliminated. Can he pull through or Zarc is just too powerful...

Versions: Peak, so on 2-C

Location: Fusion Dimension

Distance: Melee Range
Pegasus Seiya
Speed: Equalised
Zarc
Mindset: Serious

Intel: Basic Info

Music:Gundam IBO OST

Votes:

Pegasus Seiya : 3

Yuya Sakaki : 2
 
Archaron said:
Zarc is more hexed, seiya has no means of resisting power nulification and invulnerability.
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Zarc doesn't have power nullification he has a resistance towards it and his invulnerability just makes UN killable by simply being overpowered. Seiya has numerous of ways to kill Zarc reactive evolution, soul and atomic destruction. Also I remember correctly he has some form of probability manipulation that allows him to turn the fight in his favour (Ep G Assassination) by creating countless miracles.
 
it seems that Zarc actually has PNull, when an enemy uses his powers, something activates and cancels but seiya has a rather limited resistance to the PNull, the domain of hades divides the power and seiya kept all his power and is even become stronger

So this is played on the power between the two PNull
 
The Causality said:
it seems that Zarc actually has PNull, when an enemy uses his powers, something activates and cancels but seiya has a rather limited resistance to the PNull, the domain of hades divides the power and seiya kept all his power and is even become stronger
So this is played on the power between the two PNull
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Would his miracles and reactive evolution help even the odds?
 
Via SBA, 'll assume that thi is a best case scenario for Zarc, so he' ganna have all of his monsters of the field.

1) His "Power Null" is actually Negation, and it only works on Magic and Trap cards.

2) How does Seyia deal against one-hit kills? Because Zarc can just nuke him with upreme King Z-ARC's effect, and he has invulnerability and resistance to all card effects "that would make him leave the field" (don't know if Seyia's atomization would count as such). In addittion, if there are any Fusion, Synchro or Xyz Monsters on Zarc's graveyard, the Dragon and all other monsters that Zarc controls are unaffected by the effects of Fusion, Synchro or Xyz Monsters (which I don't think tht Seyia would count as one, but still).
 
Yuya has four souls inside him, I wouldn't exactly bank on attacking his soul as a win condition. As far as Probability Manipulation goes, I'm unsure of the degree but it's worth noting that regardless, it's Probability Manipulation against Luck Manipulation and, in general, I'm inclined to favor the latter. Yuya's reactive power null absolutely works on more than just spell and trap cards, there'd be no point in including it on his profile otherwise (amazing logic, I know but still) especially something that specifically causes physical destruction (and non-corporeality takes care of that anyway?).
 
Ah, yea, I forgot about Clear Wing and Crystal Eyes's effects.

Though, I've heard that in SS, there are atomization hax that can kill non-corporeals. Don't know if it's true.
 
DMB 1 said:
Ah, yea, I forgot about Clear Wing and Crystal Eyes's effects.
Though, I've heard that in SS, there are atomization hax that can kill non-corporeals. Don't know if it's true.
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Yep, Jabuu can Atomize non corporeal being
 
DMB 1 said:
Via SBA, 'll assume that thi is a best case scenario for Zarc, so he' ganna have all of his monsters of the field.
1) His "Power Null" is actually Negation, and it only works on Magic and Trap cards.

2) How does Seyia deal against one-hit kills? Because Zarc can just nuke him with upreme King Z-ARC's effect, and he has invulnerability and resistance to all card effects "that would make him leave the field" (don't know if Seyia's atomization would count as such). In addittion, if there are any Fusion, Synchro or Xyz Monsters on Zarc's graveyard, the Dragon and all other monsters that Zarc controls are unaffected by the effects of Fusion, Synchro or Xyz Monsters (which I don't think tht Seyia would count as one, but still).
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Seiya can resurrect himself if he is destroyed via the 8th Sense, Zarc doesn't affect anyone non-corporals with his OHK because they all go to the graveyard. I believe Seiya could counter that with his reactive evolution nothing works twice on a saint. Well he would not because he is not any of those types of monsters, however if so there is always his reactive evolution and miracles.
 
Cosmos in itself is doing damage to the body, and soul simulataneously.... The 8th sense is only a means to prevent the divine will of Hades underworld from forcing its laws of reality on them..

Cosmos is the soul
 
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Seiya via power scaling from Shiryu, and Shura.. Should be able to affect non-corporeal beings with his cosmos..
 
With the Blood of Athena they are given many powers too. Insane Regneration, increased resistance to haxed abilities such as time, soul, age, poison, destiny, mind, gravity, and the list goes on.
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TheUpgradeManHaHaxD said:
Miracles are a means to resist the the "God determined" destiny forced upon humans.
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No! gods do not manipulate fate, at least none in the episode g does it. What you're doing is called hyperbole. If the gods, even the primordial ones like chronons and titans, would not have lost to humans, they can predict the results they expect, but that is only arrogance on their part to think that everything will go as they really want.

prediction of the gods is a limited and defective clairvoyance. and their quote is not more of outlier.
 
Archaron said:
TheUpgradeManHaHaxD said:
Miracles are a means to resist the the "God determined" destiny forced upon humans.
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No! gods do not manipulate fate, at least none in the episode g does it. What you're doing is called hyperbole. If the gods, even the primordial ones like chronons and titans, would not have lost to humans, they can predict the results they expect, but that is only arrogance on their part to think that everything will go as they really want.
prediction of the gods is a limited and defective clairvoyance. and their quote is not more of outlier.
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The Gods manipulate the fate of mortals through their "Divine will." This only applies to major Gods. Also, you said the same thing on another thread and you were disproven by multiple members. Pontos, and the Titan King have also shown Destiny manipulation abilities as well. There is also no hyperboles in the Saint Seiya franchise as far as I know of...

[Edit] Miracles are a means to resist the forced fate the Gods put on Humans/Mortals.

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TheUpgradeManHaHaxD said:
The Gods manipulate the fate of mortals through their "Divine will." This only applies to major Gods. Also, you said the same thing on another thread and you were disproven by multiple members. Pontos, and the Titan King have also shown Destiny manipulation abilities as well. There is also no hyperboles in the Saint Seiya franchise as far as I know of...
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No, the divine will is nothing more than a way of manipulating the nature of the universe, and creating / manipulating things impossible in the ordinary sense, and manipulating fate is far from being a gods' ability. Points did not manipulate fate, he did things through the shadows without anyone noticing, but he did not manipulate the fate / plot of episode g. this is how I said before an outlier.

and no I did not say the same thing, nor did I even let it to understand this. and was not rejected, they simply did not opined.
 
You have the instance in classic seires. Where the Bronze "Just so happen" to recieve athenas blood.
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This was not planned by anyone, and was just an "Accident."
 
I mean does he start with them or does he have to summon them first. If he does, which ones?

Also, Zarc actually has 8 souls due to his monsters and aspects, while he himself us souless. His invulnerability is a bit NLF,but it usually protects against dura negation too.

All monsters in ARC-V are non corporeal

Zarc's monsters can negate monster effects too, and negation of spells and traps would work on armor and weapon abilities as those would be equips.

What does Seiya start off with?
 
Yobobojojo said:
I mean does he start with them or does he have to summon them first. If he does, which ones?
Also, Zarc actually has 8 souls due to his monsters and aspects, while he himself us souless. His invulnerability is a bit NLF,but it usually protects against dura negation too.

All monsters in ARC-V are non corporeal

Zarc's monsters can negate monster effects too, and negation of spells and traps would work on armor and weapon abilities as those would be equips.

What does Seiya start off with?
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I think he mainly tries to summon Supreme King Zarc which destroys all monsters in the field; this can be countered by Seiya's mastery over the 8th Sense which allows him to fight without a body and reactive evolution which would negate Zarc's ability.

Seiya can destroy all of Zarcs souls with his standard attack (Which destroys the opponent's body in an atomic level and soul). Yes that would be a problem however Seiya would have adapted to Zarc's ability when he first activated it meaning it would not matter.

Saint Seiya characters can hit non-corporals and Seiya is one of them via the scans above.

Well if that is the case Seiya has the power to be at a state of miracles at his strongest which alters probability into his favour turning the fight around in his favour essentially negating his opponent's abilities.

He starts with Atomic and Soul Destruction.
 
In Kurumada Suikoden - Hero of Heroes the manipulation of reality of the Gods is ability of the mortals surpassed the same is central theme of the work, this lowball in relation to Saint seiya already became a joke.
 
What is Seiya's regen level?

Has he shown to be able to destroy multiple souls and destroy non-soul beings?

Invulnerability is passive

Also, not givng Zarc some monsters from the beginning kind of skews this towrds Seiya.

I'm also just saying that Zarc can harm non-corporeal.

How does his reactive evolution and ayomization work?

Is Zarc restricted to summoning normally ore does he just slap monsters on and summon them in this match?
 
I am confused. Does Yuya already have Duel Monsters Hax or not? I tought the thread was still open.

If he does have hax, then i do see having an advantage with various power nulls andnstat manops
 
Bronze Saint can hurt Souls

Reactive evolution is broken as hell, the same attack don't work the second time, saint can reflect attack with that and many other things

Atomization is Basically Atom Destruction, each seiya's hit disassembles and destroy atom so just a ryu sei ken in the face and RIP

Seiya's regen is a regen of his atoms

what is zarc's AP?
 
It's not shown if he can destroy 8 souls at once though, and Zarc no longer has a soul.

Zarc also exists as two seperate beings, one protected by invulnerability and the other two sum,mons that auto absorb any collateral damage and give him life points.

Monster effect negation can actually negate self resurrection

Zarc is casually 2-C.

I would prefer if this was post Zarc Yuya with the 4 dragons though.
 
Seiya can attack with energy projectiles extremely quickly and accurately, his projectiles have a Hax package, he is a top-level fighter who does not mind killing on the first hit. Seiya's fighting style is effective and direct. I do not know what is so difficult to understand.
 
2-C is vague, Seiya is pretty High into 2-C

Seiya can Erase Thanatos who has Mid Godly and type 4, i thinks he can bypass Zarc's invulnerability
 
DrunkHC said:
Seiya can attack with energy projectiles extremely quickly and accurately, his projectiles have a Hax package, he is a top-level fighter who does not mind killing on the first hit. Seiya's fighting style is effective and direct. I do not know what is so difficult to understand.
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That is really vsgue tbh
 
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