Pegasus Seiya vs Yuya Sakaki

[The_Causality]

Did he negate his regen or just erase his non-existence?

no detailed but it is not a negation, only Shiryu has Regen negation via Excalibur

 

[Yobo_Blue]

So


It's unquantifiable then. I don't think we can factor it in, especially with Zarc's level of invulnerability. AP isn't really a factor due to Zarc's debuffs and absorption though

 

[The_Causality]

He can absorb something stronger than him?

 

[Yobo_Blue]

Yes, actually, his summons, the Supreme King Servant dragons can all drain attack points to zero, with Dark Rebellion in particular adding it to his strength. IIRC, Dark Rebellion drained Rise Falcon, who had 11000 atk, while Zarc has 4000. In ARC-V, a difference of 50 points is enough to 1-shot.

 

[DrunkHC]

Seiya almost dying at the beginning of the manga has precision to hit Shiryu with exactly the same force as the previous blow. The inverted punch is very difficult to execute.








Seiya dominates Pegasus ryu sen ken is at a level that borders on perfection, he is able to repel with his energized punches the technique of Sigurd Gran, Rain wrath: it drops on the opponent a devastating rain formed by thousands of cosmic blades. This technique is impossible to avoid, all that the victim can do is try to withstand the impetuosity of the fatal rain.


How skillful is Yuya Sakaki?

 

[Yobo_Blue]

Can we please stop with the scans? We understand that the things on his profile have a source by now. Skill isn't something quantifiable in Yu-GI-OH in terms of martial arts skill anyway, though hif you mean strategic skill, episode 1 Yuya defeats the World Champion, so there is that.

 

[RapidMotorcycle19]

I see this as a clear cut win for Yuya.

 

[Yobo_Blue]

I wouldn't say that

 

[Dragonmasterxyz]

So what does Yuya have that Seiya doesn't resist.

Also stop with the Sea of Scans, it clogs up the thread.

 

[Yobo_Blue]

• Zarc

PNull, Debuffs, and Absorbtion, I believe, probably One-Hit Kill too

 

[Dragonmasterxyz]

So what is '''Zarc's''' defense from being atomized?

 

[Yobo_Blue]

His inuvlnerability, which is a bit NLF, the fact there are 2 Zarcs, Zarc having 8 souls, and power null. Not sure if the 1st 3 are guaranteed though.

 

[Yobo_Blue]

Zarc can also survive without his soul, kind of like Monika

 

[RapidMotorcycle19]

Does yuya have insta kills?

If speed is equalized a single attack will kill seiya and then power null his resurrection.

 

[Yobo_Blue]

Does yuya have insta kills?
If speed is equalized a single attack will kill seiya and then power null his resurrection.

Yuya, yeah. Zarc, yes, but it's a one time thing

 

[RapidMotorcycle19]

Well, Seiya only becomes "inmune" the second way thru.

 

[DrunkHC]

Destroying incorporeal beings is something that Saga's galactic explosion does, Pegasus sui sen ken of Seiya overcomes the Galatic Explosion, this is quite common knowledge for fans of Saint seiya.

 

[RapidMotorcycle19]

Also, im not well known in saint seiya at all, but "you cannot use the same techniche against a saint twice" doesnt sound like an actual power null, it sounds like a anime trope about figuring out your opponent as the fight goes on imo

 

[Yobo_Blue]

Destroying incorporeal beings is something that Saga's galactic explosion does, Pegasus sui sen ken of Seiya overcomes the Galatic Explosion, this is quite common knowledge for fans of Saint seiya.

Yes, we have established this.

 

[Dragonmasterxyz]

Also, im not well known in saint seiya at all, but "you cannot use the same techniche against a saomt twice" doesnt sound like an actual power, it sounds like a anime trope about figuring out your opponent as the fight goes on imo

It's actually Reactive Evolution.

 

[DrunkHC]

In my opinion between two adversaries who can kill each other one who has the highest combat ability should always be considered a favorite, by what I saw Yuya Sakaki is not even close to the level of Seiya the saint is a much superior fighter.

 

[DrunkHC]

In the manga in the fight of the twelve temples of the zodiac Seiya VS Saga, Seiya overcomes the Galatica Explosion. Galatic explosion destroyed embodied beings in episode G also destroyed illusions at the beginning of the arc of Hades when the triad fights against Shaka. In manga Jabu destroyed spirits in arc hades, Shaina also does.

 

[Yobo_Blue]

In the manga in the fight of the twelve temples of the zodiac Seiya VS Saga, Seiya overcomes the Galatica Explosion. Galatic explosion destroyed embodied beings in episode G also destroyed illusions at the beginning of the arc of Hades when the triad fights against Shaka. In manga Jabu destroyed spirits in arc hades, Shaina also does.

And?

 

[TheUnshakableOne]

How does his power null work? Power absorption is definitely a problem. Although, it's not something uncommon in the SS franchise, but we never seen Seiya in anyway be "attacked" or be confronted by it or with it...

 

[DrunkHC]

Where are Yuya Sakaki's feats resisting atomatization? SS downsplayers are very hypocritical, you claim that SS has no feats, when just the opposite occurs. All I see are empty statements, those who have to show feats are voices! Where are Yuya's feats?

 

[The_Causality]

hey! a little calm here
Yobbo don't downplay, he asks for exploit of seiya being able to bypass the invulnerability and the Power Null

 

[Dragonmasterxyz]

@Drunk

What is wrong with you? You seem to snap over absolutely nothing. You don't need to post a mountain of scans every single thread. We have profiles for a reason. No one is being rude, no one is downplaying, calm down.

 

[DrunkHC]

Dragonmasterxz your opinion for me does not mean anything .






FACTS ARE FACTS no matter the "opinion" of who never brings anything relevant, a real debate works like this, you seem so childish. To nullify or defend are not absolute defenses, what has Yuya Sakaki already nullified?

 

[Dragonmasterxyz]

"Dragonmasterxz your opinion for me does not mean anything "

You are only proving my point.

"FACTS ARE FACTS no matter the "opinion" of who never brings anything relevant, a real debate works like this, you seem so childish. To nullify or defend are not absolute defenses, what has Yuya Sakaki already nullified?"

What opinion though? What I said was a fact. Do you know how this site works? Do you even understand what I am saying? We have profiles for a reason. The profiles have the needed information for a debate. Everything they have said is on the files. Matter of fact the profiles actually support your claim.

"you seem so childish"

How so? Because, I addressed your attitude? Mkay, let me be a little blunt here. You are being aggressive for no reason whatsoever. No one insults you, you snap if someone disagrees or for no reason whatsoever. Maybe you don't understand English that well, but no one here has insulted you. You getting angry and being rude has only made you look bad.

 

[Clockwork_Cookies]

Guys, there is a website called "imgur" to post multiple scans and link them to the discussion.

Like this

https://m.imgur.com/a/fRLXq

Please uses it, since it's make the discussion less painful to read and doesnt cause everyone to gone tired after seeing so much scans in one place ( and it's making this thread hard to load too)

 

[TheUnshakableOne]

To be fair, god cloth and 9th sense Seiya scales above the instances where quantum levels of destruction Happened. Destroying sub atomic particles like protons, and neutrons, and electrons. Also, the cosmos is an attack in the spirit as well as well as the body at the same time.

 

[Yobo_Blue]

I'm going to go over all of Zarc's powers and the powers of his summons in a bit, so just hold tight

 

[Clockwork_Cookies]

Zarc invulnerability seem to be vague as hell. Can someone please explain how this work and how it's gonna saving Zarc from getting all of his soul crushed by Seiya's atomization ?

 

[Yobo_Blue]

I'm going to go over all of Zarc's powers and the powers of his summons in a bit, so just hold tight

 

[DrunkHC]

In the real world there is confrontation of opinions all the time, nobody living reality can actually hide in a bubble.

A debate only exists if there is a confrontation FREE of ideals.

To hide behind any form of political power is a moderator or any other is attitude of cowards!

This is not a debate is an antics.

 

[Yobo_Blue]

In the real world there is confrontation of opinions all the time, nobody living reality can actually hide in a bubble.
A debate only exists if there is a confrontation FREE of ideals.

To hide behind any form of political power is a moderator or any other is attitude of cowards!

This is not a debate is an antics.

So, you're essentially saying only your opinion counts? That isn't how it works here buddy

 

[The_Causality]

In the real world there is confrontation of opinions all the time, nobody living reality can actually hide in a bubble.
A debate only exists if there is a confrontation FREE of ideals.

To hide behind any form of political power is a moderator or any other is attitude of cowards!

This is not a debate is an antics.

dude calm down, no one insulted you, no one ignored your argument, where is the problem?

 

[Clockwork_Cookies]

In the real world there is confrontation of opinions all the time, nobody living reality can actually hide in a bubble.

A debate only exists if there is a confrontation FREE of ideals.

To hide behind any form of political power is a moderator or any other is attitude of cowards!

This is not a debate is an antics.

He's just dont like how you post too much scans in 1 post since it make the thread look painful to read and take too much time to load the thread.

Also, please read my first post above to see the solution

 

[Dragonmasterxyz]

"In the real world there is confrontation of opinions all the time, nobody living reality can actually hide in a bubble."

That's nice..but that has nothing to do with the topic at hand.

"A debate only exists if there is a confrontation FREE of ideals."

That's nice..but that has nothing to do with the topic at hand.

"To hide behind any form of political power is a moderator or any other is attitude of cowards!"

That's nice...but that has nothing to do with the topic at hand. Also you are still cluttering the thread.

"This is not a debate is an antics."

Dunno why you decided to give us a lesson on what a debate is. This has literally nothing to do with us having profiles and you not needed to post a mountain of scans and cluttering up the thread with info that is already on the file and info that no one is disputing.

 

[TheUnshakableOne]

All.the posted scans seem to lag up my devices too... I'll be careful of that in the future..