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Zeref Time Manipulation Resistance

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Actually for the magic null, the curse is magic so Zeref would be resistant to power null due to Keye's not being able to null the magic and therefore kill a curseless Zeref.
 
Tri, for the abilities the abilities that ignored durability like mind, perception, and pain hax, He resisted them as he is shown not affected which mean that he overcame it. Since, their confrontation happen, his resistance to these is irrefutable

Also, most of the AP feat can be negated by his regen but they can also be resisted them so why not add them if fall as resistance too as he still can be damaged but resist it?
 
Magic Barrier Particles literally eat the eternano (magic) in the air or people. No magic should = no curse but Ankh said "nah boi"
 
Zeref does say that they couldn't kill him in the end.

However, Mard Geer had just barely completed Momento Mori when he used it on Gray and Natsu. Mard follows it up by saying he can now go and kill Zeref for once. This indicates that Momento Mori was never once used on Zeref. Thus, it's not valid to say Zeref can resist EE at least as it was never tested on him. We also know that Zeref at this point in time no longer wanted to die, thus why he removed Mard and said he was no longer needed.
 
AnonymousBlank said:
Magic Barrier Particles literally eat the eternano (magic) in the air or people. No magic should = no curse but Ankh said "nah boi"
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Nice, I forgot this point; so more evidences for magic negation resistance😄!
 
IMadeThisOn8-1-2017 said:
Zeref does say that they couldn't kill him in the end.However, Mard Geer had just barely completed Momento Mori when he used it on Gray and Natsu. Mard follows it up by saying he can now go and kill Zeref for once. This indicates that Momento Mori was never once used on Zeref. Thus, it's not valid to say Zeref can resist EE at least as it was never tested on him. We also know that Zeref at this point in time no longer wanted to die, thus why he removed Mard and said he was no longer needed.
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As stated above, magic that erases existence like Momento Mori is not uncommon. Brain (Zero) have it and Zeref did mention trying all form of suicide to Mavis above, so he likely try and resisted it. Since he did try suicide it likely not power null like Natsu's case
 
Keep in mind that resistance erasure existence is the best case or if not he did not, try succeeded but regen back then it would be mid-godly regen which none of us are arguing for.
 
While it is possible that Zeref found someone with EE magic and it didn't kill him, there is no proof that he did unlike with his demons.
 
But we have no arugment for EE resistence for zeref when momento mori was never used on him, you can say that their might be other EE magic spell out there, but we have no proof whether zeref tried it.
 
I rather give Zeref's EE resistance right now since he got all the evidence that we need to so now. Then, have later a meaningless thread about giving Zeref's mid-godly regen for trying all methods of the suicide which include EE and since he had resistance would that he regen from it. Then, some of us would have to refute it and settle for resistance to EE.
 
Also, the statement that he tries all form of suicide is evidence. If not then, it wouldn't be included.
 
The only reason we could argue for the nine demon gate is because we have hard proof for it, but that's not the same for the other things zeref has done of panel. Unless it's mention on panel, there is nothing we can do about it sadly.
 
So would that mean that character like Zero can beat Zeref with their EE magic.
 
Also, even gray resisted it , is this not enough evidences that Zeref can likely do the same.
 
Zero isn't resistance or even immune to death magic, so he will die before he can use his EE magic.

Also gray's case was a bit special, he was resisting it because of his demon slayer magic. But he will still get EE, but a limited version. He won't be able to resist a none demonic EE.
 
KaiserReinhardt said:
Zero isn't resistance or even immune to death magic, so he will die before he can use his EE magic.
Also gray's case was a bit special, he was resisting it because of his demon slayer magic. But he will still get EE, but a limited version. He won't be able to resist a none demonic EE.
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The point about Zero is if Zeref is suicidal would Zeno EE magic kill him
 
I understand what you mean, but the problem is that we do not have any solid proof for zeref having EE resistance. If there was such evidence for EE resistance than i'm sure there will be many people argueing for it.

By the way, have we agreed with zeref having this as resistance Keyes's Magic Nullification
 
KaiserReinhardt said:
The only reason we could argue for the nine demon gate is because we have hard proof for it, but that's not the same for the other things zeref has done of panel. Unless it's mention on panel, there is nothing we can do about it sadly.
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Also, not all of panel's don't count if not with the same logic we coud ssay that Zeref didn't had mid regen because he stated it. So, the same case we can't say that Zeref didn't try all from of magic that could him because it is off panel. We even came to near agreement that Zeref would be resistant to all lethal magic even before the new panel so we don't have to dismiss it.

Even the feat mentioned is off panel, we did not dismiss too.
 
Why would Zeref have resistance to that? Based on his statement about wanting to die and how they couldn't kill him, the only thing I could agree with him being resistant to are things that cause damage or death from the Demon's. Mard Geer's Momento Mori is the only one obviously out since it was never used on Zeref.
 
Then it is better to give likely resistance to EE since Zeref claimed to have every form of suicide which would likely include EE magic which falls under darkness magic which is a genius in.
 
IMadeThisOn8-1-2017 said:
Why would Zeref have resistance to that? Based on his statement about wanting to die and how they couldn't kill him, the only thing I could agree with him being resistant to are things that cause damage or death from the Demon's. Mard Geer's Momento Mori is the only one obviously out since it was never used on Zeref.
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Mard Geer's Momento Mori true, but EE magic is more common then it seems since fodder character like Zero has it. It also falls under Dark Magic which Zeref is a genius thus most likely it in his suicidal year. It harder to argue, Zeref a genius and an inventor in that field of magic didn't try it. I understand that some characters statement can be ignored rarely those who qualify as a Genius, by many, are ignored since their statement are almost always factual for feats.
 
Possible Final Proposal (written just in case)

Also to, since he resisted their abilities (they can't kill him.)

Evidences:
 
Zeref: Soul Absorption Resistance (because of Franmalth ), Pleasure and Soul Manipulation Resistance (because of Larcade's magic ), Water Manipulation and Limited Poison Manipulation Resistance (because of Torafuzar), Wind Resistance , Fire Resistance , Air Resistance and Lightning Resistance (because of Tempester's Weather Manipulation ), Time Manipulation Resistance, Magic Nullification Resistance, Death Manipulation Resistance, Spatial Manipulation and it's Resistances.

Gray Fullbuster/Silver Fullbuster: Limited Existence Erasure Resistance (They're able to resist demonic Existence Erasure because of their devil slayre magic, but a normal Existence Erasure should be able to kill them)

I only agree with this so far.

Sadly zeref won't have any EE unless there is a solid proof for, so please lets drop it. The only people that will get EE is gray and silver because of their ice devil slayer, also they will get a limited EE. They can only resist demonic EE, but a normal EE will be able to kill them.
 
KaiserReinhardt , I agree with your statement though.'

Also, Zeref's EE resistance now depends on who the amount in agreement, disagreement, and neutrality.
 
Zeref: Soul Absorption Resistance (because of Franmalth ), Pleasure and Soul Manipulation Resistance (because of Larcade's magic ), Water Manipulation and Limited Poison Manipulation Resistance (because of Torafuzar), Wind Resistance , Fire Resistance , Air Resistance and Lightning Resistance (because of Tempester's Weather Manipulation ), Time Manipulation Resistance, Magic Nullification Resistance, Death Manipulation Resistance, Spatial Manipulation and it's Resistances.

Gray Fullbuster/Silver Fullbuster: Limited Existence Erasure Resistance (They're able to resist demonic Existence Erasure because of their devil slayre magic, but a normal Existence Erasure should be able to kill them)

Have everyone agreed with this, did we come to a conclusion. If yes, then lets get a staff to open their pages so we can add it in.
 
Zeref: Soul Absorption Resistance (because of Franmalth ), Pleasure and Soul Manipulation Resistance (because of Larcade's magic ), Water Manipulation and Limited Poison Manipulation Resistance (because of Torafuzar), Wind Resistance , Fire Resistance , Air Resistance and Lightning Resistance (because of Tempester's Weather Manipulation ), Time Manipulation Resistance, Magic Nullification Resistance, Death Manipulation Resistance, Spatial Manipulation and it's Resistances, Possible Resistance to Erasure Existence (Zeref claimed to have every form of suicide he try failed which would likely include EE magic, a common form of the black arts, under darkness magic which Zeref is a genius in.)

Gray Fullbuster/Silver Fullbuster: Limited Existence Erasure Resistance (They're able to resist demonic Existence Erasure because of their devil slayer magic, but a normal Existence Erasure should be able to kill them)

Have everyone agreed with this, did we come to a conclusion. If yes, then lets get a staff to open their pages so we can add it in.
 
DragonEmperor23 said:
not the EE, Momento Mori was not used on Zeref.
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Dragon doesn't agree with it also, we will have to wait for more opinion. But I don't think it should be added unless we have all come to a conclusion.
 
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