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You literally claimed Zeref was soulless and couldn't prove it yeah lmfao.You can read above that I explained to Zeref that soul crush will not work.
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You literally claimed Zeref was soulless and couldn't prove it yeah lmfao.You can read above that I explained to Zeref that soul crush will not work.
No.I told you that Zeref was resistant to the spells you mentioned, but you insist on not understanding. Zeref is definitely better than Zaraki, it shows in things like hax and ap superiority
Hm? Does this guy really believe that Infinite stamina = Infinite power output? Then the situation is worse. And you can't even h3a Zeref with wank because the things you mentioned are completely IRELEVANT. Also, please explain the meaning of the scan you sent. Zeref puts on a cool stance and you claim that this hax can be used at any time? Also, you should stop saying "Come to Discord" like the kids who are Tiktok users. It makes sense to continue the public debate, and I don't discuss Tiering much on platforms like Discord anymore anyway. Anyway, back to the topic, what do you think about Mashmyre getting beaten by Shinra even though he has 5b ap in the 3d plane? Anyway, looking at your arguments in general, since Infinite Stamina =/= Infinite power output, the encounter is based on Domination and not Killing, and your h3a scale is literally "shattered" here, I see a definite Zaraki victory in this fight unless you offer resistance to Zaraki's Wincons .
Hm? Does this guy really believe that Infinite stamina = Infinite power output? Then the situation is worse. And you can't even h3a Zeref with wank because the things you mentioned are completely IRELEVANT. Also, please explain the meaning of the scan you sent. Zeref puts on a cool stance and you claim that this hax can be used at any time? Also, you should stop saying "Come to Discord" like the kids who are Tiktok users. It makes sense to continue the public debate, and I don't discuss Tiering much on platforms like Discord anymore anyway. Anyway, back to the topic, what do you think about Mashmyre getting beaten by Shinra even though he has 5b ap in the 3d plane? Anyway, looking at your arguments in general, since Infinite Stamina =/= Infinite power output, the encounter is based on Domination and not Killing, and your h3a scale is literally "shattered" here, I see a definite Zaraki victory in this fight unless you offer resistance to Zaraki's Wincons .
If you look carefully at the photo I posted, you can see that it is output, and if you read the explanation I wrote, you can understand the 100% issue thoroughly. The stamina issue is purely for support purposes.Hm? Does this guy really believe that Infinite stamina = Infinite power output? Then the situation is worse. And you can't even h3a Zeref with wank because the things you mentioned are completely IRELEVANT. Also, please explain the meaning of the scan you sent. Zeref puts on a cool stance and you claim that this hax can be used at any time? Also, you should stop saying "Come to Discord" like the kids who are Tiktok users. It makes sense to continue the public debate, and I don't discuss Tiering much on platforms like Discord anymore anyway. Anyway, back to the topic, what do you think about Mashmyre getting beaten by Shinra even though he has 5b ap in the 3d plane? Anyway, looking at your arguments in general, since Infinite Stamina =/= Infinite power output, the encounter is based on Domination and not Killing, and your h3a scale is literally "shattered" here, I see a definite Zaraki victory in this fight unless you offer resistance to Zaraki's Wincons .
SUPPOSE A WIZARD BEGINS BATTLE AT 100% STRENGTHIf you look carefully at the photo I posted, you can see that it is output, and if you read the explanation I wrote, you can understand the 100% issue thoroughly. The stamina issue is purely for support purposes.
yes, as it is mentioned in the panel EVERY TIME HE USES MAGIC, IT CONSUMES HIS MAGIC POWER, AND THAT STRENGTH GRADUALLY D WIND LES, that is, wizards start the battle with 100% power, but this power decreases with time, but someone with infinite magic power constantly fights at 100% power and this proves the infinite power outputSUPPOSE A WIZARD BEGINS BATTLE AT 100% STRENGTH
EVERY TIME HE USES MAGIC, IT CONSUMES HIS MAGIC POWER, AND THAT STRENGTH GRADUALLY D WIND LES
IN THAT RESPECT. OUR STRENGTH DOES NOT DETE- RIORATE!
AH! THAT'S WHY WE CAN ALWAYS FIGHT AT 100%
If you present something in the nature of an Argument for Rebunk, I'll probably respond.
I think it would be much more logical to discuss on discord because the discussion here does not seem to go anywhere. and we cannot defend what we want to defend here because the honor is limited to 5a here.Hm? Does this guy really believe that Infinite stamina = Infinite power output? Then the situation is worse. And you can't even h3a Zeref with wank because the things you mentioned are completely IRELEVANT. Also, please explain the meaning of the scan you sent. Zeref puts on a cool stance and you claim that this hax can be used at any time? Also, you should stop saying "Come to Discord" like the kids who are Tiktok users. It makes sense to continue the public debate, and I don't discuss Tiering much on platforms like Discord anymore anyway. Anyway, back to the topic, what do you think about Mashmyre getting beaten by Shinra even though he has 5b ap in the 3d plane? Anyway, looking at your arguments in general, since Infinite Stamina =/= Infinite power output, the encounter is based on Domination and not Killing, and your h3a scale is literally "shattered" here, I see a definite Zaraki victory in this fight unless you offer resistance to Zaraki's Wincons .
No, it is completely irrelevant. A character can output power with all his power, but you are distorting the statement by claiming that this is related to stamina.yes, as it is mentioned in the panel EVERY TIME HE USES MAGIC, IT CONSUMES HIS MAGIC POWER, AND THAT STRENGTH GRADUALLY D WIND LES, that is, wizards start the battle with 100% power, but this power decreases with time, but someone with infinite magic power constantly fights at 100% power and this proves the infinite power output
As I said, I will probably use Discord or other platforms just to chat for a long time. That's why I refuse. Since you admitted to having difficulty defending Zeref, who is limited to 5A, I assume you accept Zaraki's superiority.I think it would be much more logical to discuss on discord because the discussion here does not seem to go anywhere. and we cannot defend what we want to defend here because the honor is limited to 5a here.
where did I say there is infinite stamina?infinite stamina is already accepted in your profile, what we are defending is that zeref h3a has an apNo, it is completely irrelevant. A character can output power with all his power, but you are distorting the statement by claiming that this is related to stamina.
no maybe I was going to scale it up or give it a superior speed but I can't do that here and I don't understand why you can't discuss it when using it for chat, it's not going to be any different from what's happening here anywayAs I said, I will probably use Discord or other platforms just to chat for a long time. That's why I refuse. Since you admitted to having difficulty defending Zeref, who is limited to 5A, I assume you accept Zaraki's superiority.
not even closeZaraki FRA
Zeref FRAI don't think Zaraki can ever beat Zeref. Zeref must definitely be better than Zaraki, and he is better anyway.
You are right, there is a huge difference between the two.not even close
zeref there are many things that are not attached to your profile so I invite you to discuss on discord.but some bleach fans seem to be scared lmaoYou are right, there is a huge difference between the two.
Zaraki on top
Your unfounded claims about me are unimportant at the moment, this discussion is over for me since you accept that Zaraki is superior in current profiles.zeref there are many things that are not attached to your profile so I invite you to discuss on discord.but some bleach fans seem to be scared lmao
no I didn't agree I just said that it will be more difficult if you think it is zeref 5a we can discuss it on discord because I said I will scale it to a higher tier I didn't say that zeref lost hereYour unfounded claims about me are unimportant at the moment, this discussion is over for me since you accept that Zaraki is superior in current profiles.
Discord or not if you think anything is missing from Zeref profile create a crt.zeref there are many things that are not attached to your profile so I invite you to discuss on discord.but some bleach fans seem to be scared lmao
You don't need to say that Zeref was defeated.no I didn't agree I just said that it will be more difficult if you think it is zeref 5a we can discuss it on discord because I said I will scale it to a higher tier I didn't say that zeref lost here
Yes, because Zeref is not defeated, he has the upper hand with his passives. Sc or other passives do not work because if you look at Zeref's profile, he has resistance to things like fear, paralysis, etc. Zeref will have the upper hand.You don't need to say that Zeref was defeated.
I think there are more than 20 things missing from Zeref's profile. If you are interested in Zeref, I would like to talk to you privately on discord.Discord or not if you think anything is missing from Zeref profile create a crt.
Are you kidding me? Zaraki is resistant to everything you have presented for Zaraki and you still haven't proved to me how Zaraki will resist the manipulation of life and death.You don't need to say that Zeref was defeated.
Yes, because Zeref is not defeated, he has the upper hand with his passives. Sc or other passives do not work because if you look at Zeref's profile, he has resistance to things like fear, paralysis, etc. Zeref will have the upper hand.
Worst case scenario = you have to buy it. Because you couldn't answer things like passive absorption space and time manip (what I said is mentioned in the profile)
It has no resistance to anything and the other haxes you mentioned are not passive.Are you kidding me? Zaraki is resistant to everything you have presented for Zaraki and you still haven't proved to me how Zaraki will resist the manipulation of life and death.
We can talk using this forum conversation. Discord, Facebook etc are off limits for me from now till DecemberI think there are more than 20 things missing from Zeref's profile. If you are interested in Zeref, I would like to talk to you privately on discord.
zeref absorbs magic power with etharnano and magic power = life energy so zeref will passively absorb zaraki's energyIt has no resistance to anything and the other haxes you mentioned are not passive.
Bro, are you serious? Are you really aware that you claim to be able to absorb a spirit-based energy and an energy that currently has a higher layer in from himself? I would also like to point out that even during this absorption, Zaraki will continue to secrete reiatsu. Please speak knowing what you are offeringzeref absorbs magic power with etharnano and magic power = life energy so zeref will passively absorb zaraki's energy
What's this? I wonder when you will start hosting panels from the manga? And you state the feature in a way that is completely unrelated to what's on your profile on the wiki. For example "all Mages passively absorb Ethernano from the atmosphere to regenerate their Magic" This expression exists for Hax, and it is emphasized in his profile that it can be used on issues such as regeneration. You did the same with Zeref's Time MP and infinite stamina. Be realistic, you need to compare characters directly in this wiki instead of using wank or multiplying expressions.zeref absorbs magic power with etharnano and magic power = life energy so zeref will passively absorb zaraki's energy
Some people are afraid to present Wank arguments on the Wiki that are not in Zeref's profile lmao"Let's discuss on discord"
Blud thinks that life energy and soul are the same thing.zeref absorbs magic power with etharnano and magic power = life energy so zeref will passively absorb zaraki's energy
You stupid zeref downplayer why don't we discuss on discordBlud thinks that life energy and soul are the same thing.
LEAVE ME ALONE BROYou stupid zeref downplayer why don't we discuss on discord
I think you meant "dc bio "You stupid zeref downplayer why don't we discuss on discord
How logical is it to compare a 5-A character with a 3-C character?
hm..How logical is it to compare a 5-A character with a 3-C character?
There is no equalization and simply gaining the upper hand is enough for victory.If it is equal Zeref steps, I don't think that Zaraki there is no way to finish it.
Wouldn't that be unfair? Put tier 3 to fight an MC destroyerThere is no equalization and simply gaining the upper hand is enough for victory.
I never thought about this topic but the current topic is Cyfow Zaraki vs Manga Zeref, who do you vote for?Wouldn't that be unfair? Put tier 3 to fight an MC destroyer