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yeah?? whats your point
zeref's body not being destroyed and not regenerating helps him even more..
zeref's time thing is conceptual
zaraki would need conceptual resistance to the time rewind to bypass it
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Zaraki VS Zeref
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zaraki would need conceptual resistance to the time rewind to bypass it
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infinite source of magic power is for zerefs range
the range isn't an outlier, the attack potency is
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You misunderstood me, I didn't say that infinite magic power is equivalent to AP, I said 3A can be obtained thanks to neo eclipse (in the past, neo eclipse 3A was available on wiki, I don't know if it is still)
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you make a thread about it and see what happens
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Zaraki:Shyster,Spectra_Schiffer,IMadeThisOn8-1-2017,KailynxY77,StalkerCh,Burkiqwe,Valeska24,Apollonir.Scale,noninho,Raskolux,LIFE_OF_KING(possibly),Wankstasosuke,Memonto_Mori,Matrixxxx
Zeref:Chardee.wl,Hmptaka,zeinx,ssgengar,Serlock_Holmes,Zackra1799(possibly),Mickey1940(possibly),
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Learn to understand what you read and then start a discussion. I'm not saying it gets 3A scale thanks to neo eclipse. 3A neo eclipse was accepted at the time and Zeref bought 3A AP scale. I don't know if it still gets scale.
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I vote for Zaraki
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changed
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zeref outversal means insult to zeref, zeref exceeds tier
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are you voting for zaraki because of soul crush...
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Since winning here is not based on killing, soul crushing seems logical.
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what will happen when zeref regenerates from soul crush
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As far as I understand, you are saying that Zeref can win thanks to infinite stamina and passive regeneration, right?
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zeref can win because of time rewind
it doesn't matter if zaraki has resistance to the time stuff because zeref's is conceptual so it'll end up bypassing
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He would get soul crushed again and soul crushed while regenerating.
Zeref can't do anything except regenerate.
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why cant zeref use time rewind wtf since its conceptual
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If this was about killing, Zeref would win the match with the logic you mentioned, but the goal is not to kill.
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so zeref accidentally kills zaraki using neo eclipse
and zaraki ends up winning because zeref killed him which is not allowed
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oh this is really getting boring
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Cannot use this for attack purposes
On the contrary, Zeref will not be able to use his regeneration feature..
This issue is very complicated, Zeref only scales to the time specified as a concept in his universe. But anyway, on top of everything else there are multiple passive hax that will crush him
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????
using this logic, no character can use conceptual manipulation in vs threads here
and if zeref's CM was not combat applicable, then his profile would have said so
passive hax like what
we already know paralysis inducement wont stop zeref from rewinding
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I guess you're not reading what I wrote.. Zeref an only use his damn ability to regenerate, but he won't even need that in battle, especially when he's exposed to fear mp and other haxes.
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there is no reason for him not to use it when he's literally paralyzed and can't do anything
he would have to use it in lack of better options
why does fear hax stop him from using it
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What will happen now? And did you add Matrixx?
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Could it be because the hax you've been defending against me for hours is only used in case of regeneration?
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bro??
why are you acting like zeref would only use his rewind in case of regen
he would use if it hes paralyzed in lack of better options
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In the profile it just gives immortalt.. this discussion is getting really boring
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how does zeref having immortality have anything to do with what i said
lets do it this way then
show me the part in the profile where it says, "Note that Zeref ONLY uses time magic in case of regen purposes" or something
mf you're making it boring
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Show me the passive time manipulation in Zeref's profile
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No, this is because, unlike other defenders of honor, you have not done anything other than re-presenting to me what has been refuted many times.mf you're making it boring
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why does it have to be passive??? it being passive or not is irrelevant
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if you think posting the most driest messages is refuting then idk what to say
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A hax that is passive will interact earlier.
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You're really boring tbh
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it doesn't matter if the rewind interacts first or not if its gonna happen regardless
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