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You were expecting Low 2-C Mario, but it was I, Mini Stars!

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How is everyone finding the new forum? It’s interesting to see all the CRTs that have been coming in now we’re able to again. I actually have something I’d like to bring up myself.

In Mario Party: Island Tour, Bowser turns fun into bubbles, such villainy! The bubbles materialise as clones of the playable cast, with three of them facing off against the protagonist on almost every floor of Bowser’s newly created tower. But three opponents is quite a daunting challenge, no? If only we could cut them down… Well, that’s where Mini Stars come in.

Occasionally, a Roulette Block will appear and allow the Green Toad accompanying you to summon some Mini Stars, which will erase some of the bubble clones. The number of Mini Stars corresponds to the number of clones erased. (Since people seem to like Japanese scans, here’s what they say of it in Japan, which translates to “Huh? The power of the Mini Star made one of Bowser's minions disappear!” … So, the exact same thing!).

The ins and outs of how strong the bubble clones are are a bit shaky, but they’re generally hyped up as tough members of the Koopa Troop, with minigames such as Rat-a-tat Flat showing that they can shrug off being ground pounded by main cast members and being able to flatten them with their own ground pounds, so I’d say they should probably scale to the main cast (I don’t know if this is relevant, but I’ve seen people talk about the potency of hax using the tiering system, so I’ll put it here just in case).

As we all know, the stars you collect in Mario Party are Power Stars, and we see from Mario Party 9 and Mario Party 10 that five Mini Stars come together to form a Power Star. Therefore, I propose that we grant Power Stars Existence Erasure. It’s likely that due to being composed of five Mini Stars, Power Stars can erase five targets, so this is a pretty useful upgrade, I would say.

Thanks for taking the time to read this thread.

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Are we sure it's existence erasure? That everytime you use one of these Mini Stars in-game you are literally erasing one of these clones in body and soul from existence? Seems rather dark if you ask me. Specially since the wording that is used is "disappear".

I don't know, could just as easily be Battlefield Removal.
 
Are we sure it's existence erasure? That everytime you use one of these Mini Stars in-game you are literally erasing one of these clones in body and soul from existence? Seems rather dark if you ask me. Specially since the wording that is used is "disappear".

I don't know, could just as easily be Battlefield Removal.
Hmm... I mean, this is a game where fun is being turned into bubbles so everyone's getting depressed, it's a pretty dark game!

Can't say about the souls, since I don't think there's any particular evidence they possess souls, but at the very least their body is gone, yeah. Generally, when something disappears, it's erased, but if you'd like to have it be a coin toss between Existence Erasure and Battlefield Removal, that's fine. Both are pretty potent abilities. However, BFR feels a little bit like a reach in my opinion, as generally our goal is to get rid of these clones and there isn't exactly anywhere to send them, so the context would imply it's erasure, but I can see your point on why it's up in the air.
 
Knowing Mario, there's probably some evidence out there that they have a soul or something, but I think we should play it safe and just assume they don't really have one. Not that it particularly affects the case, though.
 
This can simply be BFR, that would be the most common think anyone would think out of it, not that the target was erased.
It's an interesting proposal, but since the goal is to get rid of the clones (we defeat them on each floor to get to the next) and there isn't really anywhere to send them, destroying them sounds like less of an assumption here than BFR (Occam's Razor and whatnot, I guess)...

What exactly makes you think it's BFR from the clip? Perhaps if we can look into why you think this, we can have a better idea as to which of the two it is.
 
Well, I'm going off to sleep now (just say because this thread is quite active at the moment and I'm the one who started it), so... enjoy the topic and I'll look over everyone's points later. Please don't close the thread before I get that chance >~<
 
What do you mean? Sorry, I guess I haven't been very clear...

The game revolves around climbing Bowser's Tower in order to stop the bubbles, however, the door to the next floor is almost always blocked by these bubble clones. When you defeat them, they dissolve back into bubbles, so the general goal is to defeat these clones by destroying them. A Mini Star helps you get rid of a few of them straight away, and we can see they don't dissolve into bubbles, so there isn't any trace of them left after this action. This came off as EE to me as a result, as it got rid of them and ... they're just gone.

Due to the clip, I can see how a flash of light and the sudden disappearance of someone can come off as BFR, however, in my opinion, this doesn't fit in line with the general goal of the player, not to mention I'm not entirely sure where it would send them. This is why I proposed you go into more depth into why you thought this, as it would allow us to be able to better understand the idea. If it relies on the idea of Green Toad saying they disappeared, I'd argue making someone disappear can also be seen in shrinking them to microscopic size, making them invisible, or turning them into thin air: these are all things that can come to mind, but clearly context tells that these interpretations don't really fit. Now, since BFR does fit the goal of getting them out of the way, I'd say this interpretation is not a bad one, but if it's relying on the keyword "disappeared", then it kind of falls into the myriad of ways one can see that word. Meanwhile, the clones visually being gone without a trace seems to fit with Existence Erasure.

I hope that cleared things up for you if anything was vague about the situation or my position.
 
What about grand stars do grand moons out class them also forget Mario being the strongest nonmultiverse character in the series donkey Kong definitely has more bananas than 5 time the number of power stars Mario has collected. As 5 bananas can fuse to become a power star.
 
What about grand stars do grand moons out class them also forget Mario being the strongest nonmultiverse character in the series donkey Kong definitely has more bananas than 5 time the number of power stars Mario has collected. As 5 bananas can fuse to become a power star.
I was going to talk about this in the OP, but ultimately decided to cut it because I thought it would make things too complicated. It's a bit hard to tell exactly where they stand (we can judge the Jumbo Star, which may or may not be a Grand Star, from SM64 would be equal to 70 Power Stars, which would be worth 350 Mini Stars, but other than that it's hard to equate things). I don't think the Moons or Bananas particularly count, as they aren't made of Mini Stars as far as we're aware, but it's possible, I suppose...
 
I mean I don't think most power stars are made from mini stars and the DK was half joke but they do fuse to be a power star I would assume moons would be accepted as I believe that we assume that they have all the same powers.
 
I think one needs better evidence than just "made the clones disappear". Existence Erasure is an extraordinary ability and you need evidence that the person is completely destroyed.
 
I was hoping not but oh no. In all seriousness Mario party island tour has a lot of versus battle stuff.
 
From EE page itself:

"This ability's destructive power is not absolute, and one should not assume that it can erase the soul by default. It can only be judged by what it has accomplished"
 
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