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I keep being asked to do this off-site, so..
Both at 2-A, speed equalized, Goku has the Keysword
Freyja
Xeno Goku
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What does freyja start with and how good are her memory, sleep, EE and reality warping? Her EE sounds almost temporal.
 
Does Goku have his Keysword?

and how good is his resistance to sleep hax?

Also, another thing to mention is that Freyja passively steals amps from her opponents, and the opponents' statistics will be reduced by the same amount they amped themselves.
 
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If Goku's ki blasts do not eliminate all of her endlessly emerging nightmare copies at once, she will just keep duplicating over and over until she decides to use hax after seeing one of herself get obliterated

Also, Goku doesn't have the Keysword, for match-up's sake, at least for now.
 
Since Freyja starts with nightmare spamming against mortals, I'd imagine that Goku would start to be overwhelmed, considering he starts with punching/ki attacks. Once he's overwhelmed, he will attempt to amp himself. Freyja will steal those amps and Goku will be weakened by the same amount he amped himself. Coupled with several abilities like Luna (which ignores durability) and several damage boosting skills along with some hax, I think Freyja could take this.
 
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Since Freyja starts with nightmare spamming against mortals, I'd imagine that Goku would start to be overwhelmed, considering he starts with punching/ki attacks. Once he's overwhelmed, he will attempt to amp himself. Freyja will steal those amps and Goku will be weakened by the same amount he amped himself. Coupled with several abilities like Luna (which ignores durability) and several damage boosting skills along with some hax, I think Freyja could take this.
They both start at their strongest, so Goku isn't gonna amp himself.
 
If thats the case, then Freyja is just gonna passively steal however much power Goku gains in that form, and weaken him by that same amount. Freyja is going to steal any power/amp that isn't his base form strength.
 
If thats the case, then Freyja is just gonna passively steal however much power Goku gains in that form, and weaken him by that same amount. Freyja is going to steal any power/amp that isn't his base form strength.
1- Can I see the evidence for it being passive, just to be sure?

2- If this is true, then what can Goku do here?
 
Honestly if Goku can take down one through sheer AP he should be able to take down duplicates with a Super Explosive Wave. The Keysword can also be used here cuz it was used to seal off the entire demon realm.
 
Freyja is just going to bring all of those duplicates back like nigh-instantly. Considering this is also SBA, Freyja is just going to steal his amps and reduce himself by the same amount he amped himself. This is likely a stomp for Freyja without the Keysword, and a stomp for Goku if he has the Keysword.
 
Goku isn't gonna one-shot Freyja. He is weakened by the same amount he amped himself, and Freyja stole his amps. Besides, Freyja can just think and Goku dies if she wants.
 
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Goku isn't gonna one-shot Freyja. He is weakened by the same amount he amped himself, and Freyja stole his amps. Besides, Freyja can just think and Goku dies if she wants.
Isn't Goku starting out at his strongest here
 
Well the issue is that even if Goku starts at his strongest, his forms are still amps which Freyja can steal apperantly. Which speaking of, BTW, how potent is her stat stealing and who has it affected in FE?
 
In terms of her passive amp stealing, it hasn't really been shown in lore, since none of the characters she has fought within the main storyline really have used amps. However, she has power stole someone via her curse, which basically made a 2-A entity completely powerless, since Freyja stole all of his power.

Keep in mind that the passive amp stealing and curse come from the same source. (aka her necklace)
 
What does SBA have to do with goku AP stomping? And if the opponent can duplicate then goku can just nuke everything to hit everything at once.
 
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