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hakai does mind soul and body, however Xeno Goku only has a possible resistance to it, so it can be restricted in this fight to be more fair
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Alien X vs Xeno Goku: Rematch
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I meant in AoE, not fundamentality.
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I mean EE is EE why would aoe matter
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... Either VSBW ****** their standards real hard this time or "who's gonna tell him?"
Vietthai96
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Wdym??, Hakai in Heroes/Xenoverse is 5D
he sense it anyway, and aren't you forgot DB character can differentiate people via their ki signature??, he gonna know, under SBA he will at least have knowledge that there are enemy he need to deal with, and Xeno Goku not gonna joke around
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Check CC Goku's page. They only scale to Sidra's lackey (and Toppo Ig). Making their resistance baseline.
Ah, fair. But is irrelevant here.
He senses it without knowing that Ben is Alien X? Also he sees the body so he knows that he needs to deal with "that guy". He just doesn't know how "that guy" works at all.
Vietthai96
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and isn't Alien X EE is also baseline as well, assume that he gonna use it in the first place
which actually add more layers if you count her resistance in
wtf, he gonna know it is Alien X, people in DB with ki sensing can recognize people from ki signature alone
anyway, why i should arguing at midnight like this, gonna sleep
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It's Low 1-C and he's bloodlusted. So Bellicus and Serena will use it as a first move.
I'm saying it doesn't matter because Goku's resistance doesn't scale to the GoDs' potency.
The body doesn't have a ki signature. Ben, Bellicus and Serena do (well actually the latter 2 don't but that ain't accepted). How does he know to look for those ki signatures?
Gn!
TLDR; Goku can't look for something he doesn't know exists.
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You might be allowed to re-enable summons if everyone starts FRA’ing Alien X.
But yeah, fair on the other restrictions Ig.
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Bruh if the ee is only baseline xeno goku already resistance to it via power of destruction
He can literally sense ki signatures from across an infinite low 1c structure plus iirc ki is also life energy alien x must have life energy
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Low 1-C is baseline? Baseline is regular 3D, which is the level of Goku’s resistance.
What? Really? Omg I didn’t know that! My bad, I didn’t realize that the first 100 times people told me.
He does, it’s just that the body doesn’t so Goku doesn’t know what ki signatures he’s looking for.
Killerdrone123
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I am talking about layers alien x doesn't have any layers for his ee there hakai is also 5d what are you saying xeno goku has a clear cut resistance that's it he resist his ee
Killerdrone123
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G.o.d for heroes are ******* 5d cc goku has underwent the same events for t.o.p as canon one just scaling is different even ssj 3 cc goku was 5d before he achieved god forms
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so another Goku is in character while his opponent is bloodlusted and will use his best move, great
i'm gonna call bullshit on this, either prove why it is 3D resistance or else no one take your headcanon, ngl
Anyway Ki crush GG, Goku start with SSJ4, his mere presence gonna destroy the entire 5D timeline, he gonna passively crush Alien X
Anyway, sleep
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Fr? Is that accepted? Crazy. DBH bros making me proud.
Anyways I deleted my previous comment because I forgot to check later keys and found extreme resistance to PoD. That said, this shouldn’t backscale to DDRM Xeno Goku so doesn’t change anything.
Killerdrone123
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Xeno goku has resistance to p.o.d which is 5d I dont get your point here ?
Vietthai96
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probably he think somehow Hakai decreased its potency when Sidra gave it to the assassin
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Hey, I said this was merely to slightly annoy you lol. So yeah.
DDRM is before the impressive EE resistance feats happen and after that it never says extreme resistance on Xeno Goku’s page.
Now we’re talking! One of Goku’s BFR methods relies on King Kai existing, which means the timeline isn’t empty. So he won’t do that if he’s not sure that it will destroy Alien X.
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I mean he has to prove that otherwise it is just his headcanon tbh I mean it was given by sidra to assassin to kill goku there was no reason to decrease its potency if he wants the job done
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No lol
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He has resistance to Sidra’s lackey’s PoD, which is 3D.
Isn’t that accepted for Super? Else he’d have 4D EE resistance at that point in canon. Which AFAIK isn’t accepted. Maybe I’m just late to the party.
That said lackey probably can’t wield a lot of Hakai energy so naturally the potency would have to be decreased.
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God dammit, I was so proud there for a second. IIRC Nia himself said no to Frieza backscaling though, so best you can do is ToP.
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Canon goku ee resistance is 4d if not then I am questioning my reality now also I literally explained you why g.o.d are 5d
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Killerdrone123
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Wait wasn't demigra attack threatening to destroy the timelines and base goku defended it why isn't it accepted
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Well for starters, that was a post BoG Base Goku from Xenoverse, and that's treated as Enviromental Destruction because Demigra was gonna nuke the Time Vault
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It was 3D for years, not sure if anything changed.
"Frieza doesn't get a lot stronger via mental training in hell so RoF scales to UVM Goku" was debunked, by Nia, so that argument's never coming back.
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I genuinely don't even know what you're talking about here
Killerdrone123
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I mean a single timeline is low 1c so he still would be 5d after absorbing toki toki and ssj3 goku does scale to him iirc
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Dude it’s resistance to Sidra’s PoD; in SDBH the potency of PoD is 5D already, but it’s layered due to erasing Arale. (Outlier for canon, but not for SDBH)
Goku has been had 4D resistance in canon for resisting Sidra’s ball for years, I don’t know how you missed that.
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Again, a Xenoverse Post Battle of Gods SS3 Goku
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I argued that everyone in the ToP downscales from the GoDs and that Frieza in the ToP ain't all that much stronger than RoF Frieza. The latter part of the scaling got debunked. If it weren't debunked, we'd have been super close to BoG Goku being 5D in Heroes and the scaling chain would have been super massive.I genuinely don't even know what you're talking about here
Killerdrone123
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Ah ok
Killerdrone123
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No it is 4d wth you are literally making me question my knowledge for db on this wiki
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Now to be super annoying about it, can you show me where this (it being 4D) was accepted?
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I get that a lot.
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Dementia's hitting me again cause I don't remember any of this lol
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Makes sense. Been a while, I'll be fully back in a month. I'll jog your memory then.
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