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Worst thread ever made part 2 - Frieza vs Vanilla Ice
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How is this a worse fight then cell vs madara? And no, it ain't fair
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Because the whole only stands that can hurts another stand things.
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Because cream is a void. He technically not existent or at least exists within a different dimension homu .
Also it is fair because freeza would ohko also given an opportunity .
Also it is fair because freeza would ohko also given an opportunity .
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An opportunity which Frieza will never get
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Also, while Cream is inside the void, even other Stands won't be able to hurt it.
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Its a void. Although the user exists within a different dimension my man .
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Just stating that that void is completely invulnerable.
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He could depending on what he does at the lead also ya best not be implying threads worse than this dont get added at least once a week. This is fair in comparison to plenty of threads. Ice has one trick which while probably would net him a win although one wrong move would cost him quite a lot monarch .Monarch Laciel said:
Also seeing as a few months ago this thread was deemed a stomp for Goku (essentially freeza) im led to trust that not much had changed.
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Yeah maybe if he was within the realm because otherwise the ki would be disassembled and eaten by the void .AKM sama said:
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Or the realm can be destroyed from outside like how Goku destroyed Hit's.
Also how does the OHK work?
Mate the ki would be eaten and disassembled.
Yeah freeza would blast ice although ice going within cream us quicker on the draw dmb . The ohko is disasemabling freeza and throwing the disintegrated remains to a alternate dimension .
Freeza isnt omniscient man. He would have no reason to fly and aboud what he cant detect see or even move from what would appear to be a suicidal move he witnessed.
Also how does the OHK work?
Mate the ki would be eaten and disassembled.
Yeah freeza would blast ice although ice going within cream us quicker on the draw dmb . The ohko is disasemabling freeza and throwing the disintegrated remains to a alternate dimension .
Freeza isnt omniscient man. He would have no reason to fly and aboud what he cant detect see or even move from what would appear to be a suicidal move he witnessed.
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Some things:
1. Just because it has not shown any limit to its disintegration, doesn't mean it can disintegrate everything.
2. It can even disintegrate energy?
3 Vanilla will have to peek which means Freeza will be able to find out the whereabouts. Also a stray ki blast hitting the ground will produce enough smoke or dust that can help track Vanilla. There is also Freeza's annoyance which can cause the planet to be blown up.
1. Just because it has not shown any limit to its disintegration, doesn't mean it can disintegrate everything.
2. It can even disintegrate energy?
3 Vanilla will have to peek which means Freeza will be able to find out the whereabouts. Also a stray ki blast hitting the ground will produce enough smoke or dust that can help track Vanilla. There is also Freeza's annoyance which can cause the planet to be blown up.
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Hax is hax. Unles freeza or ki has some resistance im not aware of then yeah would work fine. Ya cant be ckaiming freeza can endure matter disasemabling and a void now?. Hax is bound by dimension akm not a tier man .
Can disintegrate stands which are composed of soul and energy depending on the stand. Chariot being the main example of which he had at least two examples of being described as energy explicitly himself for that specific stand .
How long do ya think the match would be lasting akm? The match would last a few seconds at most of which ice would have the general area of where freeza would be.
excluding the fact freza outright not once throughout all of dbz used a planet bust the moment a match or opponent troubled him as something as troublesome of a 100000000000000000 fraction of his power opponent disappeared and claiming he would quite obviously false when freza planet busts at the end of fights akm that or when pushed and he wouldnt be pushed mainly because a freeza would be surprised then gone from a void .
Can disintegrate stands which are composed of soul and energy depending on the stand. Chariot being the main example of which he had at least two examples of being described as energy explicitly himself for that specific stand .
How long do ya think the match would be lasting akm? The match would last a few seconds at most of which ice would have the general area of where freeza would be.
excluding the fact freza outright not once throughout all of dbz used a planet bust the moment a match or opponent troubled him as something as troublesome of a 100000000000000000 fraction of his power opponent disappeared and claiming he would quite obviously false when freza planet busts at the end of fights akm that or when pushed and he wouldnt be pushed mainly because a freeza would be surprised then gone from a void .
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The dust throwing works like throwing paint randomly to detect an invisible person nearby. Except, Frieza's blasts will generate too much dust, concealing the void even more than it already is. However, Vanilla Ice's vision will also be impeded and he will eventually peek if he doesn't know where Frieza is at. This kinda opens up opportunities for Frieza to death beam him, but he'll go back into the void immediately or even if he does get hit, he'll regenerate.
After that its gg Frieza.
After that its gg Frieza.
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1. Hax is hax, but it has a certain potency. You can't claim a fire extinguisher can extinguish a forest fire just because it once extinguished a flame. How can I know how potent this disintegration is? A ki blast and a hakai, both can disintegrate a target, doesn't mean they are equally potent.
2. And Ice still needs to peek. Which means Freeza will know and will fly above. He will launch a ki blast in that general direction which will produce smoke and dust, which will give away Ice's location.
3. Assuming Freeza can't destroy the void dimension from outside, there is only one choice left. Planet bust, which he uses pretty often. He was annoyed by the saiyan's growing power and he directly destroyed the planet. When he was sure that he can't win against Goku or Vegeta, he again destroyed the planet.
2. And Ice still needs to peek. Which means Freeza will know and will fly above. He will launch a ki blast in that general direction which will produce smoke and dust, which will give away Ice's location.
3. Assuming Freeza can't destroy the void dimension from outside, there is only one choice left. Planet bust, which he uses pretty often. He was annoyed by the saiyan's growing power and he directly destroyed the planet. When he was sure that he can't win against Goku or Vegeta, he again destroyed the planet.
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Akm unless youre debating if void manipulation wont work on a featless freeza then yeah. Void manipulation would do freeza a decent one akm.
No? Gonna have to ask ya to stop assuming what ice must or mustnt do. He sees freeza at the start. Thats more than enough akm.
Ya do reize freeza would have quite literally zero clue on what ice did and when freza does think and figure what happened he wouldnt because hed have bit the dust long ago . And doing the planet vegeta comparison akm? He decided after years akm. Meanwhile the example with goku well unless ya think ice would push freza that hard and stomp him then yeah freza would be pushed and planet destroy although me and ya well aware that wouldnt happen and would end long prior of that hapenng . Freza op specified and sba make freza have no prior information on cream and ice or the power akm .
No? Gonna have to ask ya to stop assuming what ice must or mustnt do. He sees freeza at the start. Thats more than enough akm.
Ya do reize freeza would have quite literally zero clue on what ice did and when freza does think and figure what happened he wouldnt because hed have bit the dust long ago . And doing the planet vegeta comparison akm? He decided after years akm. Meanwhile the example with goku well unless ya think ice would push freza that hard and stomp him then yeah freza would be pushed and planet destroy although me and ya well aware that wouldnt happen and would end long prior of that hapenng . Freza op specified and sba make freza have no prior information on cream and ice or the power akm .
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Half the point ya made are false equalivance fallacy akm .
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Vanilla Ice: 10 ( Reinhardthrowhisspear Vizorus69 PolarKid Starter Pack TacticalNuke002 ProfessorLord AuthorTheIdiot Yobobojojo Cringu TheJ-ManRequiem )
Frieza: 4 ( Kaltias Gargoyle One DMB 1 Dziga )
Frieza: 4 ( Kaltias Gargoyle One DMB 1 Dziga )
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Haha, finally someone noticed it.
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I was thinking that myself, but I assumed Golden Frieza didn't have the resistance yet or something
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So freiza can't touch Vanilla Ice, and yet this is fair? The "can ohko given an opprotunity" argument is kinda lame seeing as it seems Freiza will simply never get an opprotunity.
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I don't know, maybe because Freiza is 3-A?Kaltias said:
Realistically if this was bloodlusted, Frieza would win here. Instant-transmission + ki blast = death before Vanilla Ice can activate his Spacial Destruction.
But in-character, even if Frieza were to attack first in this fight, more often than not he'll just use his death beam which is more of a torture attack, and although very potent, lacks a lot of destructive power. It just punches through people. So Vanilla Ice gets a few holes, that's cool, he's a vampire. Proceeds to OHKO.
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A 3-A energy beam hitting a 8-B would outright atomise them
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Newly learnt Golden Frieza is 3A. Doesn't resist erasure.
ToP Final Form Frieza is 3A. Doesn't resist erasure(needed to go golden).
ToP Mastered Golden Frieza is At Least 3A. Resists erasure.
I'm assuming its the first option.
ToP Final Form Frieza is 3A. Doesn't resist erasure(needed to go golden).
ToP Mastered Golden Frieza is At Least 3A. Resists erasure.
I'm assuming its the first option.
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Straight from the Void Manipulation page.
"Conversion to nothingness/existence erasure: Further note that one shouldn't list a character to have resistance/immunity against this ability in total, as that requires a character to have shown resistance against every imaginable ability which can erase a target."
So Freiza has no resistance to void manipulatiuon, and just because existence erasure is a consequence of void manipulation, doesn't mean Frieza's current resistance to existance erasure would help him, as the two abilities (Spacial Destruction/Hakai) function very differently.
"Conversion to nothingness/existence erasure: Further note that one shouldn't list a character to have resistance/immunity against this ability in total, as that requires a character to have shown resistance against every imaginable ability which can erase a target."
So Freiza has no resistance to void manipulatiuon, and just because existence erasure is a consequence of void manipulation, doesn't mean Frieza's current resistance to existance erasure would help him, as the two abilities (Spacial Destruction/Hakai) function very differently.
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Vanilla Ice FRA.
EDIT: Also, just because "we don't know how strong this hax REALLY is" doesn't mean that it won't work on a character that has shown no resistance to it.
The fire extinguisher comparison is bad because fire extinguishers don't ignore durability. Hax only has tier limits if the jump is a dimension or if it's an ability that doesn't ignore durability (e.g. fire manipulation).
EDIT: Also, just because "we don't know how strong this hax REALLY is" doesn't mean that it won't work on a character that has shown no resistance to it.
The fire extinguisher comparison is bad because fire extinguishers don't ignore durability. Hax only has tier limits if the jump is a dimension or if it's an ability that doesn't ignore durability (e.g. fire manipulation).
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sba says the highest tier, not the strongest, they all have the same tier. (and "at least" doesn't make it a higher tier)Kaltias said:
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A 3-A kamehameha, or even a 3-A ki blast? Of course.Monarch Laciel said:
Unfortunately death beam doesn't function that way. It would only atomize the surface area it comes in contact with, as that's how we've seen death beam function.
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