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Wiki Vandalism Reports

@VeryGoofyToddler2 seems to have made a mistake then. Should we revert their edits until their revision has been clearly accepted?
Ultima literally said 0 and High 1-A+ was clear and cut. Here. This is supported by other mods as well. I don't know why this is being brought to attention.
Anyhow. For DeMatteis: Yeah, the Divine Presence is obviously Tier 0. Pralaya's true form being High 1-A+ is fine by me.
The miscommunication on Ultima saying don't use his word outside Wiki has nothing to do with those two tiers. He literally uses God from DeMatteis as one of the standards for 0 and anything just below it as High 1-A+. Qwas accepted it and maybe Glassman. Pretty sure Elizio was fine with it as well.

No mistakes were being made.
 
Ultima literally said 0 and High 1-A+ was clear and cut. Here. This is supported by other mods as well. I don't know why this is being brought to attention.

The miscommunication on Ultima saying don't use his word outside Wiki has nothing to do with those two tiers. He literally uses God from DeMatteis as one of the standards for 0 and anything just below it as High 1-A+. Qwas accepted it and maybe Glassman. Pretty sure Elizio was fine with it as well.

No mistakes were being made.
your link error
 
your link error
I put the quote there in case it didn't work.

Ultima:
Anyhow. For DeMatteis: Yeah, the Divine Presence is obviously Tier 0. Pralaya's true form being High 1-A+ is fine by me.

Qwas:
Other than that point everything looks straightforward. Though if the Divine Presence is 0 then thr Tree of Life also can't be 0 afaik.
Profectus:
Yeah, Ultima already approved the High 1-A+ and Tier 0 stuff, it's just the High 1-A stuff that he rejected.
 
Profectus he really staff? and could you please put message of 1 of the 3 staff that you listed and whether they indicate that it is now can be used?
Ant literally goes with what Ultima said. Indirectly he agrees:

Ant:
Ultima's evaluation above seems fine to me.
Unless other knowledgeable staff members have objections. I do not want us to enforce such important changes based on me and Ultima alone, especially as I am not good at evaluating most content revision threads in the first place.

Glassman did not object. He just remained neutral, waiting on other mods and knowledgeable members, and I remember clearly, that no other mods disagreed or objected to this including all the knowledgeable members which includes Profectus(hence why I included him).
 
Glassman did not object. He just remained neutral, waiting on other mods and knowledgeable members, and I remember clearly, that no other mods disagreed or objected to this including all the knowledgeable members which includes Profectus(hence why I included him).
Just because they didn't object doesn't mean they agree or am I misunderstanding because they would have already voted if they agreed?
 
Just because they didn't object doesn't mean they agree or am I misunderstanding because they would have already voted if they agreed?
That's still three: Qwas, Ant, and Ultima. Eilizo remained neutral but from what I’ve, he's not opposed to 0 or High 1-A+. I don't know why this is a problem.
 
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The problem is that we shouldn't use it first unless it's truly conclusive, as Ant has pointed out
Three mods already agreed. Ant made his stand clear unless any “mods” disagreed, which none did. If none of them did then three are already enough, there's context to his statement. It was pretty conclusive to the only mods who participated.
 
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Tier 0 entities really tryin to pop off... Meanwhile me and others are actually attempting to implement an actual Tier 0
 
Someone edited Michael Myers' profile without a CRT, removing feats from the novels under the justification that it's "not canon." There was no CRT for this. Well, there was, but it wasn't accepted.
For the thread: this guy asked sincerely to be unbanned, and I went ahead and did it, as it came with the promise to adhere to our rules. Since his edits never seemed malicious, I just wanted to let it be known I went ahead with that. If he continues, a stricter ban shall await him.
 
Regarding this, the creator has been informed of our policies on OCs and directed to FC/OC, also with an acknowledgement that FC/OC does not tend to accept such characters. The profile was deleted. In the future, please do not replace the entire profile with the {{delete}} template, rather just place it at the top- it is generally preferred to preserve the author's work in a sandbox for them, which is obviously easier to do if you don't remove everything from the page. In this instance, while I could have undone the edit, I do not think it is necessary, as it seemed to be very barebones.
 
Regarding this, the creator has been informed of our policies on OCs and directed to FC/OC, also with an acknowledgement that FC/OC does not tend to accept such characters. The profile was deleted. In the future, please do not replace the entire profile with the {{delete}} template, rather just place it at the top- it is generally preferred to preserve the author's work in a sandbox for them, which is obviously easier to do if you don't remove everything from the page. In this instance, while I could have undone the edit, I do not think it is necessary, as it seemed to be very barebones.
Noted. Thank you.
 


Put 1-A in their Tiering for no reason. Along 0 for Spongebob
 
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Put 1-A in their Tiering for no reason. Along 0 for Spongebob
Blocked.

I also blocked this user for multiple blatant vandalising edits:
 
Undid what edits hadn't been undone already, and also protected those profiles, as they appear significant enough to warrant it. I've also left him a message in explanation, encouraging him to sign up if he has something he feels is right to change.
 
That does not seem necessary in this case, as they appear to just be very clueless.

Well, I'm willing to give them another chance. And a block was necessary to control the damage since they were severely vandalising many profiles with no one stopping them.
 
Well, I'm willing to give them another chance. And a block was necessary to control the damage since they were severely vandalising many profiles with no one stopping them.
Okay. No problem. I will unblock them as a final chance then. 🙏
 
I'll apply a ban later if nobody has. Posting this to say that the issue has been seen, but also that I'm unable to to assist immediately.
 
I banned them for 1 month and left an instruction message in conjunction, as the edits were not of a significant nature. 🙏
 
User know as Aernasilver has been vandalizing some Genshin Impact profiles, in which he puts the next treath as proof, even do they never agreed with what the user has change
The Genshin profiles affected were: on
Venti, Dvalin, Jean, Diluc, Kaeya, Albedo, Mona, Eula
Skirk, All Devouring Narwhal, Traveler
Abyss Herald, Durin
Tartaglia, Signora, Scaramouche, Arlecchino, Dottore
Neuvillette, Clorinde
Cyno, Nahida
Kageroumaru, Raiden Shogun
Keqing, Beidou, Shenhe, Xiao, Zhongli, Azhdaha, Ganyu
He was litteraly allowed to revert the stuff back...I guess we could have called staff that evaluated to re evaluate.
 
I gave him permission. No other staff spoke on the subject afterwards and thus it was not accepted (2 staff agreed, 1 disagreed, means no acceptance). Hypersonic was accepted, and so that was placed on the profiles. There is no vandalism here.
 
No one spoke because you guys litterally close the treath like 1 hours later
My first comment on the thread was September 17th, in which I stated possible issues with the CRT. It was still open at this point, although arguably could have been closed. I then told them to wait a bit before undoing anything, so that we could hear from you in case there was more to it. You offered an explanation but I found it distinctly lacking, and said as much.

The thread then talked about possible further MHS+ evidence for half a page, with my last comment on the subject being put up on September 18th. This was the state of affairs until yesterday; given over two weeks, no other staff commented. And thus the vote was 2-1. Which is not accepted. So the edits done before the thread was closed were changed to the state of the currently accepted content of the thread (that is, Hypersonic). It was only closed yesterday.

You, specifically, commented on this thread in the interim. I don't understand how you can be so unaware of the state of it if you were there, as the OP.

The edits are fine. I gave permission.
 
This user was previously warned by me for vandalism and has ignored it, repeating the same vandalism here. I've since reverted it, but I do not have the permissions to enact a ban here, which I think should be done, along with another structured message regarding vandalism.
 
My first comment on the thread was September 17th, in which I stated possible issues with the CRT. It was still open at this point, although arguably could have been closed. I then told them to wait a bit before undoing anything, so that we could hear from you in case there was more to it. You offered an explanation but I found it distinctly lacking, and said as much.
We litterally gave you proof of Lightning for 2 days and you just decide to ignore it?
And then without any warning you decide to reopen the disccussion just to say "Yeah we are closing it and reverting to the lower end" in less than 1 hour, letting no one to discuss such action?
 
  1. "There's Cloud to Ground Lightning spells" Rebuttal: "It does come from offscreen, but it does not appear to be CtG, given that there is obviously a clear sky above"
  2. "But this character is the embodiment of Electro, and thus should be considered to be using real lightning; "lightning speed" should be taken literally" Rebuttal: The first bit just isn't how it works, and "lightning speed is an extremely common element of flowery language, and is thus rarely regarded as usable evidence in and of itself"
  3. "Well then what can I possibly do to prove MHS, this doesn't seem possible!" Response: "Dodging actual Cloud to Ground lightning would be a start, for example"
  4. "Well here's an Electro attack during a time with a cloudy sky!" Response: "Are people actually able to dodge that?" The only answer received implies not; I reiterate the question again later, I get the response "not in game", so I ask about lore, to which I get "also no"
  5. "They already had MHS feats, it was just listed as Subsonic" Response: ""That doesn't make any sense, and dodging electricity isn't fundamentally MHS- dodging a thunderstorm from far enough range with low enough movement could feasibly yield Subsonic" (This is literally confirmed to be the case moments after, the calc they had that you implied to be MHS support was Subsonic)
My last statement on the subject was that I was open to the possibility of MHS evidence being valid should literally any be brought forward, since our back-and-forth didn't yield any that were legitimate MHS feats. The thread was then quiet until two days ago- that's a timespan of 18 days, during which you didn't say a word about more evidence. On October 5th (two days ago, as of now), literally the only comment you made was "just wait until my tier 2 upgrade!". So, after a waiting period well ******* beyond the site standard, I gave the go-ahead so the results of the thread could be applied correctly. The thread was closed about an hour later.

In summary: I responded to every single piece of evidence brought up after the fact that was made in an attempt to defend MHS scaling. Each one was either flimsy, or just not usable. Therefore, after a generous amount of time (9x the standard grace period), it was applied. You then have the nerve to accuse me of not only mishandling the situation by closing it early, but also to say that I did so from a position of ignorance so I could not be proven wrong.

You are lying. You are a liar. I will not waste any more time on this to satisfy your want to upgrade the speed without any care for the facts of the matter. The fact that you insist on this half-baked attempt to slander me, when you were still on that thread in the interim time, when the evidence of the truth is right there, paints this less as an act of ignorance and more of one of malice, as though a thread not going the way you want it is itself a rule violation. It's madness, plain and simple, and I won't entertain it any longer.
 
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