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Why are the Crystal Gem Rel+ when their feat is 33% the speed of light.
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The pages are a little outdated, because I think the original calc was around 60% or something, but turns out that calc was wrong, and then it re-done, and then result is only 30%, but it seems like nobody remembered to downgrade them.
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Yeah, that was a bit odd.
If the calc is 33%, they should be Rel, not Rel+.
If the calc is 33%, they should be Rel, not Rel+.
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I believe Paulo is correct
Honestly i can potentially see the Diamonds being Rel+ just through sheer scaling but thats about it
Honestly i can potentially see the Diamonds being Rel+ just through sheer scaling but thats about it
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What i mean is, speed-wise, Pearl (Who has the Rel feat) < Garnet <<< Sardonyx <<< Alexandrite <<< White Light <<<<< Diamonds
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^ didn't pearl out run Sugilite. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=1I856-rt3L8
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^ The only example I can think of them being faster is Hessonite but even then; she's only faster while using a single move that I believe increases her speed since you can't block that attack in the game while you can block her other attacks (also it one shots you while every other attack she does doesn't so I assume the attack has special properties)
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@Ant For example, Amethyst (Who scales to Pearl) was speedblitzed horribly by Jasper (Who scales to Garnet) who in turn was speedblitzed by Smoky Quartz (the fusion of Amethyst and Steven)
Rose Quartz also speedblitzed multiple Rubies before they had a chance to react
Also technically Sugilite DID blitz Pearl in their initial fight
Rose Quartz also speedblitzed multiple Rubies before they had a chance to react
Also technically Sugilite DID blitz Pearl in their initial fight
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Fair enough
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I actually really want to say something, but it's to late and it goes good with the other thread I want to make so I will take about it later. (Just know I think we use the word blitz too causally (usless reacting to some from +50ft away counts as a blitz which I will get into tomorrow (if I can bring myself into making an other thread))
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Size oftentimes gives characters higher speed. A large being will have a stride many times longer than a normal humans, and thus they will be far faster. Big cats, despite being many times larger than humans, run faster.
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Square cube law. The double the size, the half the speed.
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How exactly does that work? That would mean that a city-sized creature would move at snail speeds since it is several orders of magnitude over a human.
And that is clearly just not the case since many animals who are larger than humans are faster.
And that is clearly just not the case since many animals who are larger than humans are faster.
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Animals who are larger than humans are faster because of other reasons, such as a more flexible build in the case of cheetahs, who are larger and faster, but slimmer & have to spend copous amounts of time recovering from their own chases.
If you double the size of an object, you'll be reducing their speed by half. They will now be four times stronger than before, but also eight times as massive. Their speed will therefore be half what it was when they were tiny.
If you double the size of an object, you'll be reducing their speed by half. They will now be four times stronger than before, but also eight times as massive. Their speed will therefore be half what it was when they were tiny.
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But even looking at strength, animals clearly don't follow this linearly. The Harvester Ant, while being far smaller than the Dung Beetle, is also far weaker, even proportionally.
The gorilla is one of the proportionally strongest animals on Earth, despite millions of other smaller species existing.
The gorilla is one of the proportionally strongest animals on Earth, despite millions of other smaller species existing.
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Of course it is far weaker. It is far smaller, as you said yourself. That's a part of the square cube law as well.
A gorilla is one of the strongest animals on Earth because their muscles are built for raw power. This comes with the price of tiring out more easily than a human.
A gorilla is one of the strongest animals on Earth because their muscles are built for raw power. This comes with the price of tiring out more easily than a human.
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Id just like tonpoint out that stronger gems being faster is 100% supported by feats. Garnet is karger than both Amethyst and Pearl and she can casually keep up with both simultaneously. Rose blitzed three rubies, which are barely a third her size, before they could even react.
Being larger doesn't make the diamonds slower.
Being larger doesn't make the diamonds slower.
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^ but didn't Rose kill a diamond by runnig past all her guards and killed her before anyone knew Rose was there? skip to the trail scene
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^ Wasn't the entire point of that episode that this scene didn't actually happen.
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Steven even confirms this in the recap. There's no way Rose could have done that, she couldn't have gotten close enough without anyone seeing her, and her sword can't even shatter gems. The "Rose shattered Pink Diamond" story makes no sense in-universe, and the series even points that out multiple times.
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Yeah no, Rose never shattered Pink, at this point it's either Yellow or White that shattered her
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https://i.ytimg.com/vi/RHoduPDTC8Y/maxresdefault.jpg I don't want to get into theory stuff, but since the only events we have been told are a lie we pretty much have nothing to base the Diamonds speed off of, so I'll just point that not only have the Crystal Gem stated that they did defeat pink diamond (meaning they had to hit her) but we can see her gem in the temple so they can't be that much faster than Rose since Rose defeated one. (But I really don't care all that much about this anyways, so if everyone in this thread agrees with rel+ Diamonds I'll be fine with it)
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Only mention of Pink Diamond in Gemcation:
Garnet: You didn't do anything wrong. Pink Diamond was a villain. It was 5,750 years ago. Pink Diamond was ravishing the planet...
Steven: Yeah, I know.
Garnet: Oh.
Steven: Pink Diamond was bad. Everything bad had to happen so good things could kind of happen.
Garnet: Uh, good. You understand.
Garnet: You didn't do anything wrong. Pink Diamond was a villain. It was 5,750 years ago. Pink Diamond was ravishing the planet...
Steven: Yeah, I know.
Garnet: Oh.
Steven: Pink Diamond was bad. Everything bad had to happen so good things could kind of happen.
Garnet: Uh, good. You understand.
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