What are your thoughts on DC authors confirming Monitors > All the DC Gods

[MichaelJZero]

With the new release of the Essential Final Crisis, Morrison and some other authors/editors confirmed that Monitors are above all the DC Gods and that Nix Uotan Dreams up DC Comics and that

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This is reflective of what we saw in The Multiversity, where Nix Uotan dives into DC Comics from his bedroom in Earth Prime.

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Beyond this, it seems post Convergence, all of DC is back on Multiversity Cosmology.

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What are your thoughts on all of this and how this now brandishes the power of Nil Monitors in the hierarchy?

 

[MadHATdancing]

The top Monitors and related characters (Nix, Mandrakk, Thot Robot) should be high 1-A

I think there should be a thread on DC revision after DD Clock, but I digress

 

[MichaelJZero]

The Presence needs to be demoted below Monitors of Nil. And CAS and Mandrakk need to be promoted above them. More than one author said Monitors > The Presence now, Scott Synder is on video saying it too.

 

[Deleted member 2530]

Isn't this Nix just diving into UltraComics?

 

[MichaelJZero]

Isn't this Nix just diving into UltraComics?

He dove into DC, not Ultra. He took Ultra with him because Ultra wasn't powerful enough to do it alone he required Uotan to help him invade DC. Uotan in his bedroom in Earth Prime, literally jumps into DC's Orrery of Worlds and becomes Nix Uotan the Monitor, the Super Judge and he toted Ultra with him. It was Ultra's plan to get Nix to do this, because a Monitor is the only way anything from "the metaverse" can get into the Orrery.

 

[TheBestBoi]

New release? I think I've already seen this 2-3 years ago, also just keep it to comicvine, the vswiki has the monitors below the angels

 

[Supreme_of_Universe]

I think this is stupid thread. Destiny transcends whole DC Creation (via map). And Presence>Destiny

 

[Deleted member 2530]

I think this is stupid thread. Destiny transcends whole DC Creation (via map). And Presence>Destiny

I have seen this guy's argument. He thinks the map is wrong and Nabu should have been in place of Destiny for some reason. Also, this scan is out of context. Iirc, this took place in Univere 33 which has fictional representation of DC which publishes Ultra Comics. Morrison also calls Presence God. The whole Monitor>> DC Gods only mean about the New Gods and gods from Olympus and so on. In short, this whole thread is either misinterpretation or just taking things out of context.

 

[Supreme_of_Universe]

Agreed. Monitors are more powerful than demons in hell, ot New Gods from Apocalyps, but even Lucifer omega stomps the likes of most powerful Monitors (TR and Mandrakk). So, I think this thread should be closed.

 

[MichaelJZero]

Is this good enough? DeMatteis himself saying he doesn't even know what Overoid is?

Seems like the entire hierarchy just shifted in favor of Overvoid, CAS and Mandrakk as things beyond the Void that DeMatteis claims is God.

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Sorry mates. Overvoid isn't the Void DeMatteis speaks of.

 

[TheBestBoi]

Grant Morrison states that overvoid or kirby's source or God are the same, but maybe only the two since the source and the overvoid exist on the same level of existence according to the map