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...what? I thought this was about consistency, not gaps in power.
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WAHOOOO! Mario Bros AP Revision/Upgrade! (M&L Brothership Spoilers)
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Yeah....? Did you not read what I said?
Just because values say different tiers, doesn't mean they aren't consistent with each other? The name of the tier don't matter, what matters is the gap. Like you wouldn't say a 999 megaton feat isn't consistent with a 1 gigaton feat because different tiers right?
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But there's only one Low 7-B and one 7-A feat on the verse page and about 3 to 5 9-A, 8-C, and 7-C feats. That would just make the gap bigger, no?
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Cool, I said if I had to guess.
I guess maybe it should have been downgraded to low 7-B instead with the 7-C acting as support. What do you want me to say? Shit wasn't my CRT.
Though really I don't particular care, there's more 6-C feats now, I've just spent 40 minutes skimmig shit for you dudes and noticed a handful of 7-B to 7-A feats so not like they didn't exist, but cool whatever, that is my problem how exactly?
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Okay? So, by that logic, if we have more 6-C feats, doesn't that give us "ample support" for 6-C & less of a gap between that and the High 6-A feat?
Which reminds me, there was one more 6-C feat I performed that I planned on adding in a CRT.
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I'm not sure how you came to that conslusion.
"Mind you, the TIER doesn't actually matter, but the value itself does.
For example, a High 8-C jumping up to 8-A, skipping a whole ass section, isn't that much of an issue compared to a low 9-B, jumping up to high 9-B, even though that IS the same tier, the actual gap is insane. In this example, the former can be as low as like just a lil over 8x, while the former is a gap that can be as high as 50,000x. Which is like the gap between 8-C+ to High 7-C."
6-C to HIGH 6-A is tens millions of times to billions of times.
There's no 6-C supports High 6-A really ever, you could maybe do so for like low 6-B if you have high end 6-C feats (assuming said 6-C feats aren't feats that leave dudes half dude, take max effort, etc). Like it's a gap but it isn't egregious, supporting feats do be supporting.
But in no world is a feat supporting something with a gap that's like the gap between YOU and a LITERAL M1 ABRAMS TANK, times 1000.
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Well, I'd like to continue, but I'm getting pretty exhausted (especially after work & exercising), so I'm gonna hit the sack & finish tomorrow. Good night, everybody, and Happy Thanksgiving!
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Shadow Queen has an attack of 7 while bonetail has 8, also I'm sure the pit of 100 trials takes place post game in canon for both TTYD and SPM due to how nearly impossible it is without having the items throughout the game or leveling-up(there is a whole video about it)
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we don't use gameplay damage scaling please familiarize yourself with what game mechanics are on our wiki page for it (also "I'm sure" doesn't work here)
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Also again, the High
You can do it at literally any point, the tattle is the same, and, again, the scan literally isn't talking about Shadow Queen, **** the raw says "final boss-type enemies", Goombella is just talking archtypes not specific characters.
And so? There's enemies with comparable attack to Shadow Queen, yet she literally VAPORIZED the last chapter's boss with a flick and is completely impossible to touch. Sure as hell couldn't do that with 7 attack. You're conflating gameplay with the blatant lore of Shadow Queen being literally impossible to beat with buffs and you can't so much as scratch her all while having actual feats of stomping top dogs.
A scan that 1. Isn't canon post-game, nothing states that. It's available at all times, it's just a optional challenge. 2. Isn't even talking about Shadow Queen, especially when the line is the same even when they don't even know she exists. 3. Literally just the whole ass plot of the game, her invulnerability, and actual onscreen feats spitting in the face of stats.
This will never be viable unless you actually prove, without a shadow of a doubt, Goombella is talking about Shadow Queen (she isnt).
You can do it at literally any point, the tattle is the same, and, again, the scan literally isn't talking about Shadow Queen, **** the raw says "final boss-type enemies", Goombella is just talking archtypes not specific characters.
And so? There's enemies with comparable attack to Shadow Queen, yet she literally VAPORIZED the last chapter's boss with a flick and is completely impossible to touch. Sure as hell couldn't do that with 7 attack. You're conflating gameplay with the blatant lore of Shadow Queen being literally impossible to beat with buffs and you can't so much as scratch her all while having actual feats of stomping top dogs.
A scan that 1. Isn't canon post-game, nothing states that. It's available at all times, it's just a optional challenge. 2. Isn't even talking about Shadow Queen, especially when the line is the same even when they don't even know she exists. 3. Literally just the whole ass plot of the game, her invulnerability, and actual onscreen feats spitting in the face of stats.
This will never be viable unless you actually prove, without a shadow of a doubt, Goombella is talking about Shadow Queen (she isnt).
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Also something I wanted to bring up since I honestly wasn't super sure at first but at this point, screw it.
So, TTYD (before Paper Jam, thank god) has artifacts known as the Crystal Stars. Specifically, the lore surrounding them that implies in various localizations they hold the literal "power of stars". Again, this seems very literal in meaning when comparing all the translations together. To me, this implies a High 6-A rating. Going by the Sun Fact Sheet (as we use the Sun for default "star" stuff), the Sun gives off 3.828e+26 Joules/second. This comes out to 91.49 petatons, or High 6-A for the power of a Crystal Star. For scaling, we've got Macho Grubba, who amps himself with a Crystal Star, only for Mario to beat him in Base.
So, TTYD (before Paper Jam, thank god) has artifacts known as the Crystal Stars. Specifically, the lore surrounding them that implies in various localizations they hold the literal "power of stars". Again, this seems very literal in meaning when comparing all the translations together. To me, this implies a High 6-A rating. Going by the Sun Fact Sheet (as we use the Sun for default "star" stuff), the Sun gives off 3.828e+26 Joules/second. This comes out to 91.49 petatons, or High 6-A for the power of a Crystal Star. For scaling, we've got Macho Grubba, who amps himself with a Crystal Star, only for Mario to beat him in Base.
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