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Villains of Darkness: Blackbeard vs Zeref

I mean, that Death Manipulation, Immortality and Time Stop are going to be hard to bypass for Blackbeard here.

Blackbeard is the stronger one of the two since he is scaling above 2.5TT with the Gura Gura no Mi while Base Zeref is scaling to 2.1TT

While Blackbeard may be able to absorb the orbs of death with his Black Hole combined with his Limited Precognition (Observation Haki), I wonder how effective it would be against a widespread one.

Blackbeard may have a chance if he could BFR Zeref with his Black Hole since Zeref's Immortality would basically render Blackbeard's Durability Negation with the Gura Gura no Mi pointless since he would simply recover from them with time. Could create some earthquake to disoriented Zeref before trying to BFR.

I don't know what Blackbeard can do against Time Stop, honestly can't remember when Zeref perform that feat.
 
Time stop was in the Tartaros arc but it isn't really in charater for Zeref, It's more like death magic GG.
 
Zeref doesn't lead with time stop and Blackbeard should be able to absorb death magic with his Darkness. You can't really kill darkness and his Darkness has absorption hax. Also for immortality, we dont know how long it takes for his type 4 to work and Teach should be able to bypass his regen with a good hit if the Gura can shatter him with its vibrations.
 
The Prince of Counters said:
Zeref doesn't lead with time stop and Blackbeard should be able to absorb death magic with his Darkness. You can't really kill darkness and his Darkness has absorption hax. Also for immortality, we dont know how long it takes for his type 4 to work and Teach should be able to bypass his regen with a good hit if the Gura can shatter him with its vibrations.
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Zeref resists power null.
 
Zackra1799 said:
What does Blackbeard open with?
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Blackbeard starts out with either trying to BFR opponents quickly (usually done with mooks) or paralyze them in place (Like what he did against Whitebeard), use his gravity power to pull his opponent close to him to negate their power and attack or launch deadly earthquakes/airquakes at them. He's only been in three serious fights so far, each with different opening.
 
KobsterHope07 said:
Blackbeard starts out with either trying to BFR opponents quickly (usually done with mooks) or paralyze them in place (Like what he did against Whitebeard), use his gravity power to pull his opponent close to him to negate their power and attack or launch deadly earthquakes/airquakes at them. He's only been in three serious fights so far, each with different opening.
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If he pulls Zeref in for powernull Black beard dies instantly.
 
The haki grants forcefields and attack reflection, it's the same logic used for auras in RWBY getting their resistances. Observation might warn him about it beforehand too,
 
Cropfist said:
The haki grants forcefields and attack reflection, it's the same logic used for auras in RWBY getting their resistances. Observation might warn him about it beforehand too,
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Scan? Arnament haki acts as an extra layer of protection, not really a forcefield.
 
Zeref takes it. BB has no counter to teleknisis, time manipluation, or Zeref's death manipuation. Not mention Zeref could outsmart BB with his genius intelligence.


 
@Cropfist

Yeah, but only to higher level users of Busoshoku. Teach mastery level of haki is unknown.
 
KobsterHope07 said:
Blackbeard is the stronger one of the two since he is scaling above 2.5TT with the Gura Gura no Mi while Base Zeref is scaling to 2.1TT
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No.

Zeref is superior to August and Irene who are 2.2 Teratons

Blackbeard scales below 2.5 Teratons,
 
The gap itself isn't even 3x, so he definitely can still harm WB, one shotting Ace is impressive but he also downscales from the feat

Blackbeard being above the feat would make him definitively scale to it, not be possibly.

He doesn't scale above a feat performed by someone who is stronger then him
 
Let's see here:

@Schnee One - Zeref is superior to them? I see, also Irene has the feat of 2.1 TT so he is above 2.1TT not 2.2TT. Blackbeard with Gura Gura no Mi has shown to be much stronger, able to hold his own against Sengoku in his Buddha state.

@Pur2uit - According to Zackra1799, it isn't really in-character for Zeref to use Time Manipulation. Blackbeard has the higher Lifting Strength so Telekinesis is a bust.

Death Manipulation is still a major problem for Blackbeard. While Blackbeard can handle the projectiles-based Death Orbs with Black Hole, that Black Cage does indeed impose a problem. The Pillar thing is not really a problem since Blackbeard could use Observation Haki to warn him, even so, the attack that require prep time to charge it up. Blackbeard could even use this chance to suck Zeref up into his darkness.
 
Blackbeard holding his own against Sengoku in his Buddha state was offscreen

Why isn't blackbeard outright Low 6B if he's apparently strong enough to contend with Sengoku?
 
KobsterHope07 said:
Blackbeard could even use this chance to suck Zeref up into his darkness.
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If BB tries to suck Zeref up, Zeref could just Teleport himself away from the black hole
 
You know I just now realized something doesn't WBs quakes get downgraded since Earthquakes got revised?
 
I think that revision is when earthquakes are generated naturally (underground). The earthquakes used here are generated above the surface level.
 
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