Versus Thread Removal Requests (New forum)

[StrymULTRA]

Asriel Dreemurr vs Kratos should be removed, as Asriel does not start with Danmaku, but with Info 2 EE which is thought based, and Kratos has no resistance to that.

Asriel vs Spiderman should be removed too, Spiderman's best option is to incapacitate with the webs, but that won't stop Flowey from LOADing the save file and trying again, and eventually adapt to him and win. Spiderman has literally nothing stopping Flowey from doing that.

 

[StrymULTRA]

ummm rematch question mark

No.

 

[StrymULTRA]

im gonna do it...

Then why did you ask...

 

[Omegabronic]

@ShionAH @omegabronic stop debating in the removal thread. You are sending every single person who follows the thread a ping over this. Settle it on one of your message walls, then let me know if it’ll get removed or not.

@ShionAH and i talked on his wall, he agreed to remove the match from the profiles, so you can proceed to do so

 

[Catzlaflame]

@ShionAH and i talked on his wall, he agreed to remove the match from the profiles, so you can proceed to do so

I have done so

 

[Planck69]

Asriel Dreemurr vs Kratos should be removed, as Asriel does not start with Danmaku, but with Info 2 EE which is thought based, and Kratos has no resistance to that.

The one fight the goat boy is in, he doesn't open with that. Let's not run around slapping "thought based start up" on whatever hax occurs.

It should still be nuked cause the main argument (Asriel oneshotting) no longer applies, though. And both profiles are radically different from when this match happened.

 

[ShionAH]

The one fight the goat boy is in, he doesn't open with that. Let's not run around slapping "thought based start up" on whatever hax occurs.

Frisk is a whole different deal than some random Spartan man who screams

 

[StrymULTRA]

The one fight the goat boy is in, he doesn't open with that. Let's not run around slapping "thought based start up" on whatever hax occurs.

This tells me you don't know the context of said fight. Asriel specifically didn't because he wanted to reset to play over and over again with who he thought is Chara. He literally says that he's changed his mind on that, as his initial plan was to gather the 7 souls to destroy everything, as he explicitly said he got Chara's mindset before Frisk talk no jutsu'd him.

Why wouldn't he just nuke Kratos? He's not Chara nor anyone who vaguely resembles them.

 

[DaReaperMan]

Frisk is a whole different deal than some random Spartan man who screams

This tells me you don't know the context of said fight. Asriel specifically didn't because he wanted to reset to play over and over again with who he thought is Chara. He literally says that he's changed his mind on that, as his initial plan was to gather the 7 souls to destroy everything, as he explicitly said he got Chara's mindset before Frisk talk no jutsu'd him.

Why wouldn't he just nuke Kratos? He's not Chara nor anyone who vaguely resembles them.

Show me Asriel starting with that.

Oh. Right.

 

[StrymULTRA]

Show me Asriel starting with that.

Casually ignoring that as Photoshop Flowey he ***** up the game in a similar way as Chara.

 

[DaReaperMan]

Casually ignoring that as Photoshop Flowey he ***** up the game in a similar way as Chara.

Photoshop Flowey is not Asriel.

For instance, Flowey actually USES saves, Asriel does not.

Try to not say "but THIS key did it!" Because Photoshop Flowey unironically has a better IC then Asriel for combat.

 

[StrymULTRA]

Photoshop Flowey is not Asriel.

He literally is lmfao.

For instance, Flowey actually USES saves, Asriel does not.

Because Frisk was blocking Asriel from doing so with DT? I didn't know you didn't read those profiles.

 

[DaReaperMan]

He literally is lmfao.

Photoshop Flowey is extremely psychotic and sadistic.

Asriel is more reserved and silently sadistic.

Because Frisk was blocking Asriel from doing so with DT? I didn't know you didn't read those profiles.

Get Power Nullification onto Frisk's profile and call be in the morning Strym...

 

[GarrixianXD]

Don’t debate here please.

 

[StrymULTRA]

Photoshop Flowey is extremely psychotic and sadistic.

Asriel is more reserved and silently sadistic.

As Asriel he's mistaken Frisk for Chara, he literally did it because he needed to snatch the control of the timeline from them, plus he did not plan to perma-kill them, just made him give up so he could finally use TRUE RESET.

As Photoshop Flowey he didn't mistake them for that, heck Asriel had the exact shitty behavior until Frisk awakened his emotions back.

Get Power Nullification onto Frisk's profile and call be in the morning Strym...

• Immortality (Type 4) and Resurrection (Low-Godly. In case they're unable to SAVE and LOAD,[3] they are still able to refuse to die through regenerating their SOUL.[3] Given that Flowey was able to revive himself through SAVE and LOAD despite lacking a SOUL, thus actually erasing himself from existence at death,[1] they should be able to regenerate from the erasure of both SOUL and body through refusing to die if they cannot access the former ability)
• Multiverse level Environmental Destruction with TRUE RESET (While Frisk was seemingly unable to physically hurt Asriel, their Determination was stopping Asriel from doing a TRUE RESET, thus forcing Asriel to defeat Frisk in order to gain control over the timeline.[3] Because of this, they should be able to use the TRUE RESET like Asriel himself, which can completely reset all of the game world, with this power probably being used by Chara to restore the world after completely erasing it[7][note 1])

Now this is getting just embarassing. Their DTs were literally nullying each other, as neither Frisk nor Asriel could use SAVE and LOAD there.

Don’t debate here please.

I am fighting misinformation and blatant downplay over the character. So no.

 

[Catzlaflame]

I am fighting misinformation and blatant downplay over the character. So no.

You misinterpret "Dont debate here" as "Dont debate." Debate all you want on your message walls, but this thread has a specific purpose.

 

[StrymULTRA]

You misinterpret "Dont debate here" as "Dont debate." Debate all you want on your message walls, but this thread has a specific purpose.

Fine then.

 

[DaReaperMan]

As Asriel he's mistaken Frisk for Chara, he literally did it because he needed to snatch the control of the timeline from them, plus he did not plan to perma-kill them, just made him give up so he could finally use TRUE RESET.

As Photoshop Flowey he didn't mistake them for that, heck Asriel had the exact shitty behavior until Frisk awakened his emotions back.

• Immortality (Type 4) and Resurrection (Low-Godly. In case they're unable to SAVE and LOAD,[3] they are still able to refuse to die through regenerating their SOUL.[3] Given that Flowey was able to revive himself through SAVE and LOAD despite lacking a SOUL, thus actually erasing himself from existence at death,[1] they should be able to regenerate from the erasure of both SOUL and body through refusing to die if they cannot access the former ability)
• Multiverse level Environmental Destruction with TRUE RESET (While Frisk was seemingly unable to physically hurt Asriel, their Determination was stopping Asriel from doing a TRUE RESET, thus forcing Asriel to defeat Frisk in order to gain control over the timeline.[3] Because of this, they should be able to use the TRUE RESET like Asriel himself, which can completely reset all of the game world, with this power probably being used by Chara to restore the world after completely erasing it[7][note 1])

Now this is getting just embarassing. Their DTs were literally nullying each other, as neither Frisk nor Asriel could use SAVE and LOAD there.

Get Power Nullification onto their profiles and call me in the morning. Crying downplay and how I'm embarrassing myself will not get me to back down Strym, in fact it gets me to stay up and continue arguing about what I see as the case out of nothing but pure spite.

I am fighting misinformation and blatant downplay over the character. So no.

You wanna know what I think of pretty much everything you've all been pulling with UT profiles? Wank.

 

[StrymULTRA]

You wanna know what I think of pretty much everything you've all been pulling with UT profiles? Wank.

If you wanna cook dem downgrades I am more than ready to deal with whatever nonsense you can pull.

Get Power Nullification onto their profiles and call me in the morning. Crying downplay and how I'm embarrassing myself will not get me to back down Strym, in fact it gets me to stay up and continue arguing about what I see as the case out of nothing but pure spite.

• Says the DT were nulling each other
• "It does noy say power null so no!" when the weakness section says that more UT-like DT can stop one from using SAVE and LOAD.

Anyway, I'll stop for real, otherwise this ends up in RVR.

 

[ShionAH]

Powernull was rejected because Frisk does not have the ability to just “nullify” Time Manipulation. Its just how DT works. When you have a stronger DT it nullifies the other because you are stronger

The MU should still be removed since Kratos is not 2-C

 

[StrymULTRA]

The MU should still be removed since Kratos is not 2-C

That and the fact that Kratos generally got a lot of hax upgrades that can insta-kill Asriel regardless.

Edit: **** I forgot that thread too. Could have been doing something based with that one.

 

[GarrixianXD]

Haven’t I already told you all to stop?

 

[DaReaperMan]

Haven’t I already told you all to stop?

I mean I posted before I read that lol

 

[GarrixianXD]

It’s fine.

 

[Pedonar]

Requesting to remove this from KH and Saiki profiles

Because saiki lost all of his wincons against KH after DontTalkDT downgrade thread

 

[Gilad_Hyperstar]

Requesting to remove this battle between Anime Vegito and Anime Kefla from both of their profiles.

Not only both of their profiles got updated a lot over the time period after their match, but the scaling for them that gave Kefla the win changed meaning the match is outdated

 

[Pedonar]

Requesting to remove this from KH and Saiki profiles

Because saiki lost all of his wincons against KH after DontTalkDT downgrade thread

Bump

 

[Spilxson2]

Requesting to remove this battle between Anime Vegito and Anime Kefla from both of their profiles.

Not only both of their profiles got updated a lot over the time period after their match, but the scaling for them that gave Kefla the win changed meaning the match is outdated

There are 2 separate Kefla profiles? I thought there was only one

 

[Gilad_Hyperstar]

There are 2 separate Kefla profiles? I thought there was only one

There aren't but I specified in case they'll make Manga Kefla someday. Saw Manga Vegito just now

 

[MrLuk2000]

Alien X vs DBH Bardock | 2-7-0 (Grace Finished)

Damn so he never used his ee I am switching my vote to bardock

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Alien X vs DBH Bardock. Alien X's wincon of EE is not in character and Alien X will never use it

 

[Omegabronic]

Alien X vs DBH Bardock | 2-7-0 (Grace Finished)

Damn so he never used his ee I am switching my vote to bardock

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Alien X vs DBH Bardock. Alien X's wincon of EE is not in character and Alien X will never use it

it is in character when they want to get rid of someone, as seen in the forge of creation episode where it was said that if any of the main cast was even noticed by them in their realm, they would be instantly erased

and the only reason Belicus and Serena never used it in the show is because they were never threatened by anyone, and never wanted to win any fight, in this situation which via SBA they would want to win, they would use the fastest method to get rid of the opponent for them to go back to their debating process, the fastest one being EE

 

[MrLuk2000]

it is in character when they want to get rid of someone, as seen in the forge of creation episode where it was said that if any of the main cast was even noticed by them in their realm, they would be instantly erased

The EE is only a statement that comes from a quote from Servantis that said if Ben wanted to he could wish everything out of existence. Ben would never in character wish someone away from existence.

Ben is someone who would knock someone down, not out. Even in SBA, he would use the most non lethal way to subdue Bardock which are all resisted or not combat applicable.

 

[Omegabronic]

The EE is only a statement that comes from a quote from Servantis that said if Ben wanted to he could wish everything out of existence. Ben would never in character wish someone away from existence.

look at the Notable Attacks/Techniques section

also we must not discuss this in the versus thread removal thread, if you want to answer to me again, do so in my message wall

 

[Spilxson2]

Hey Lois, Remember the time I fought The Doctor from Doctor Who? (One more vote)

This is a physical fight between none other than The doctor vs Peter griffin Both are at 9-A Speed is equal Peter gets his baseball bat The Doctor gets his sonic Screwdriver Takes place in unfamiliar territory for both Winner can be by death, KO, or Incapacitate Who wins and why? The...

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The Doctor is being downgraded to 9-B. Plus "Peter Griffin vs The Doctor with a 7-B Screwdriver" already seemed like an extremely one sided match

 

[Farfetchedx]

Comic Garou vs Shadow the hedgehog

Comic Garou vs Shadow The Hedgehog Both are 5-A Speed is equal Fight takes place on Mikd'lty Shadows AP is upscales from about 405 Yottatons and Garou's is 247.29 Yottatons Garou: 2 (Kachon123, ZillertheBucko) Shadow: 9 (JED, TauanVictor, ElixirBlue, Cloud4840, Gabs22_Gamer, ShadowWarrior1999...

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Requesting to remove this from Garou's and Shadow's profiles because it's outdated. Garou is no longer 5-A

 

[Dinozxd]

Requesting for the removal of this matchup from both Manabu's and Johnny's profile as Manabu does not scale to 12.2 KJ anymore (I never think he did in the first place as well so I'm surprised how it was even used).

Johnny vs Manabu (0-8-0) *Grace*

Johnny Lawrence vs Manabu Horikita Rules: Speed equalised. Cobra Kai Johnny. No prep time. No weapons. Both are in character but willing to kill. Johnny AP: 4.6 Kilojoules Manabu AP: 12.2 Kilojoules Johnny’s Advantages: Possibilly has supperior Martial Arts Manabu’s Advantages: AP advantage...

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[DaReaperMan]

Gazef Stronoff vs. Kirito

Poor Gazef is one of the coolest 8-Cs in Overlord and no one gives him love. Speed is =. ALO Kirito is used and Gazef has the Kingdom's Treasures. Battle takes place in Voiceover Pete's greenscreen room. Other than that, SBA. Gazef Stronoff - 7 (Pixel, Cueio, Dragopentling, Anonymous, XMark...

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Gazef's semi-recent rework has made this match badly outdated, Gazef now has a well over 3x Speed Amp he spams, Durability reduction Armor that makes lethal attacks not so lethal anymore, a finishing move he can spam that's vastly over his already higher AP, oh, and a dura neg sword capable of killing Ainz of all people.

Kirito (Post-Aincrad)

Kirigaya Kazuto (桐ヶ谷 和人, Kirigaya Kazuto), born as Narusaka Kazuto (鳴坂 和人なるさか かずと, Narusaka Kazuto), and known as «Kirito» (キリト, Kirito) in «Sword Art Online» is the protagonist of the main Sword Art Online series. Kirito was chosen to be one of the one thousand beta testers for the closed beta...

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Gazef Stronoff

Gazef Stronoff is the Warrrior Captain of the Re-Estize Kingdom, and the personal bodyguard of King Ramposa III. Considered to be the strongest man in the kingdom, he represents a level of power only found within the ranks of adamantine adventurers, only rivaled by a few elite fighters such as...

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[LordGriffin1000]

Comic Garou vs Shadow the hedgehog

Comic Garou vs Shadow The Hedgehog Both are 5-A Speed is equal Fight takes place on Mikd'lty Shadows AP is upscales from about 405 Yottatons and Garou's is 247.29 Yottatons Garou: 2 (Kachon123, ZillertheBucko) Shadow: 9 (JED, TauanVictor, ElixirBlue, Cloud4840, Gabs22_Gamer, ShadowWarrior1999...

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Requesting to remove this from Garou's and Shadow's profiles because it's outdated. Garou is no longer 5-A

Requesting for the removal of this matchup from both Manabu's and Johnny's profile as Manabu does not scale to 12.2 KJ anymore (I never think he did in the first place as well so I'm surprised how it was even used).

Johnny vs Manabu (0-8-0) *Grace*

Johnny Lawrence vs Manabu Horikita Rules: Speed equalised. Cobra Kai Johnny. No prep time. No weapons. Both are in character but willing to kill. Johnny AP: 4.6 Kilojoules Manabu AP: 12.2 Kilojoules Johnny’s Advantages: Possibilly has supperior Martial Arts Manabu’s Advantages: AP advantage...

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Gazef Stronoff vs. Kirito

Poor Gazef is one of the coolest 8-Cs in Overlord and no one gives him love. Speed is =. ALO Kirito is used and Gazef has the Kingdom's Treasures. Battle takes place in Voiceover Pete's greenscreen room. Other than that, SBA. Gazef Stronoff - 7 (Pixel, Cueio, Dragopentling, Anonymous, XMark...

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Gazef's semi-recent rework has made this match badly outdated, Gazef now has a well over 3x Speed Amp he spams, Durability reduction Armor that makes lethal attacks not so lethal anymore, a finishing move he can spam that's vastly over his already higher AP, oh, and a dura neg sword capable of killing Ainz of all people.

Kirito (Post-Aincrad)

Kirigaya Kazuto (桐ヶ谷 和人, Kirigaya Kazuto), born as Narusaka Kazuto (鳴坂 和人なるさか かずと, Narusaka Kazuto), and known as «Kirito» (キリト, Kirito) in «Sword Art Online» is the protagonist of the main Sword Art Online series. Kirito was chosen to be one of the one thousand beta testers for the closed beta...

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Gazef Stronoff

Gazef Stronoff is the Warrrior Captain of the Re-Estize Kingdom, and the personal bodyguard of King Ramposa III. Considered to be the strongest man in the kingdom, he represents a level of power only found within the ranks of adamantine adventurers, only rivaled by a few elite fighters such as...

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I have removed all of these.

 

[Spilxson2]

Danny Phantom vs Knight (Sonic Frontiers)

The ghost boy tries to conquer a titan. Match Rules Both in Character Speed is Equalized Both at 2-A (This match uses A Glitch in Time Danny) Battle Music: Find Your Flame Danny Phantom: 7 (ShakeResounding, GlaceonGamez471, LordGriffin1000, Eseseso, JJSliderman, omegabronic, XSOULOFCINDERX...

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The Knight is now Low 1-C

 

[Omegabronic]

that fight was a hax fight more than anything else, Knight's tier change doesn't change the fight much if at all