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2-Verse equalization don't reach everything
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The resurgence of a Demonic Dream Triangle vs a Hypergod Goat | Bill Cipher VS Asriel | 0-2-0
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2-Verse equalization don't reach everything
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That dosent mean Bill can't hit Asirel's mind/soul
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I agree the soul part, but how would he hit the mind?
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From just hitting it? There's a reason why Mid Godly is more impressive than Low Godly.
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hitting it, he can interact with asirels mind, even if it is not connected with his soul he can do some of his hax to just attack at them at the same time
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He need to first enter the mind to atack It without atacking the soul
but sinse I'm tired of discussing this I acept It's not a stomp, voting asriel IC bill would just blast him for the one shoot sinse both are "super powerful gods" what mean that eventually Asriel just use EE
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Asriel ftw
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from this win con, wouldnt bill just kill asirel as soon as he shoots a blast
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he isn't atack asriel mind here, he just see the goat and eye blast him from the start of the fight
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he can attack asriel's mind based on the mindscape being soul and mind, even if they arent connected to each other Bill can hit both
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again, bill is blasting asriel body sinse he has no reason to think the goat will be able to survive as just mind and soul
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counted then
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Asriel Fra
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counted
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he can, also bill can't snap when paralized
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We arent using true power asriel off the bat
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oh, still there is no reason asriel can't reaset, not to mention that against supower powerfull characters bill to go move is blasting (time baby)
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Did Bill completely kill time baby? Judging by profiles Im not sure he did, as TB has High regeneration
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It's only said that time baby would eventually come back and would be destructive or something but he in fact defeated time baby and stoped him from interfirig with his plans(also the entire time army)
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he can't
They need a mind to do it, Bills energy attacks destroy the mind and the soul
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I will not start that discussion again
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Determination explicitly needs the mind, Flowey has to actively refuse to die to resurrect, Frisk too.
Heck, there's a reason why the other 6 souls died despite them having the SAVE and LOAD powers, because of them giving up and not using the power anymore against Asgore. Without the mind, DT cannot work.
Heck, there's a reason why the other 6 souls died despite them having the SAVE and LOAD powers, because of them giving up and not using the power anymore against Asgore. Without the mind, DT cannot work.
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Bill shot a attack at Time Baby, which Time baby could still regen with, with only High regeneration,
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No? Time Baby did not regen at all?
ShionAH
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Bill did say he was gonna come back, I think Time Baby would just gain a resistance or Mid-Godly lol
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he has High regeneration on his profile but it stated it would take 1000 years to recreate his body, but I could not find where it came from, and im assuming its from Bill blasting him
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I will not start that discussion again, thank To the diference on how GF and UT soul and mind dinamics are, bill would need to enter asriel mindscape to atack his mind sinse asriel mind isn't conected to the soul
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Bill can affect Souls, Minds and Concepts
He can simply destroy Asriels mind specifically and end his life... Plus Acausality would mean he would know how to deal with the save and load
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In verse equalization it's literally like that. Bill can target both soul and mind because he just can. There's a reason why Asriel has not Mid Godly but Bill has.
Plus you're arguing like DT is passive and does not need the mind, when that's bs.
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About that, the first thing he did as Photoshop Flowey was him completely ******* up the game, and Asriel did not instantly erase the game because he only wanted to gain control over the timeline and reset so he gets back with Chara. He has no intention to do that with Bill of course, so it's not unreasonable he'd do that, especially when he has the same mindset as Chara's to destroy everything with the 7 SOULs.
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Also, about Bill attacking both soul and mind, while true... is there evidence he can do the same as UT characters who can indeed attack soul and body at the same time? Because we don't assume everytime a Dragon Ball character kills someone, they destroy their soul as well.
And this leads me to think that... can Bill attack before Asriel uses his Info 2 EE? Chara needs a slash, but Asriel seems to be better at manipulating the game world, as as Photoshop Flowey he already did a lot of funny stuff with thoughts, so Asriel being able to delete the game world with a thought does not seem far fetched, especially when he does that passively in his FP state.
Aka... Asriel stomps, as he thinks and Bill is erased.
And this leads me to think that... can Bill attack before Asriel uses his Info 2 EE? Chara needs a slash, but Asriel seems to be better at manipulating the game world, as as Photoshop Flowey he already did a lot of funny stuff with thoughts, so Asriel being able to delete the game world with a thought does not seem far fetched, especially when he does that passively in his FP state.
Aka... Asriel stomps, as he thinks and Bill is erased.
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I mean I really dont think Azzy would see Bill and instantly pull out his best wincon. Bills transmutation should also do the trick, I think its just a mismatch
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Because he has the same mindset of Chara whose intention is literally to just nuke everything, Asriel's goal was initially the same.
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He didnt nuke everything at all in his fight, he was passively and slowly doing it
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Wont Asriels mind/soul still exist and allow him to do a reset?
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He did not plan to because he just wanted to reset everything to stay again with who he mistaken as Chara. Man forgot the context fr.
He even says he's changed his mind in the fight lmao, he wouldn't have a reason to "reset to play forever" with Bill instead.
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Transmutation only does physical effects, not non physical
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