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Versus Thread Removal Requests (New forum)

What's up with everyone wanting to remove Jojo matches all of a sudden?
Lost to The Courier. Same thing as Gumball, Jotaro simply one shot.
...that's really not a convincing argument. Courier still has a ridiculous amount of ways to beat him.
 
...that's really not a convincing argument. Courier still has a ridiculous amount of ways to beat him.
He doesnt. All Jotaro has to do is to take a pebble and throw it with enough force to literally destroy his body. It's easy.
 
You know people in weaker tiers have beaten people in stronger ones right? What hax does the Courier have that can let him beat Jotaro?
 
You know people in weaker tiers have beaten people in stronger ones right? What hax does the Courier have that can let him beat Jotaro?
If I remember correctly, the Courier either beat him with Social Influencing or just hitting him with the Laser Rifle since the whole Heat doesn't equal Durability thing was going around at the time which can turn Giant Monsters into Ash.
 
He doesnt. All Jotaro has to do is to take a pebble and throw it with enough force to literally destroy his body. It's easy.
wat
You know people in weaker tiers have beaten people in stronger ones right? What hax does the Courier have that can let him beat Jotaro?
Some busted, combat-applicable social influencing, radiation manipulation through a variety of weapons including literal nukes, spammable drugs that enhances their perception of time among other things, supernatural luck, et cetera.
 
Basically this. Pick up a piece of stone and launch at speeds high enough to simply shatter someone with durability similar to Jotaro's. He doesn't need to get closer to Courier to actually defeat him

Social Influencing

Bullshit. From DIO's profile

Social Influencing (His presence and dialogues could generate rather abnormal reactions on others who he related to or just met, ultimately inducing things such as massive fear of him, loyalty or appreciation)

Jotaro can't be affected by it, dude is literally pissed 100% of the time.
 
Just redo the matches holy shit, this ain't the place to argue this, whether it's Dio vs Kak or Jotaro being 200% mad and some dude who can talk good.
 
Do you know how to read or are you pretending to be stupid like that?
Now try to do that with a dude rushing towards you trying to carve your skull in. Same bullshit argument was made against Geralt, didn't work because **** that, social influencing is bullshit and you can't simply sit down and try to convince a dude that doesn't even know you to try to not kill you.
 
Now try to do that with a dude rushing towards you trying to carve your skull in. Same bullshit argument was made against Geralt, didn't work because **** that, social influencing is bullshit and you can't simply sit down and try to convince a dude that doesn't even know you to try to not kill you.
Just noticed that's Part 4 Jotaro, now the social influencing stuff is somewhat pointless.
Also, again, why would a guy who's known for being a gifted tactician when it comes to intense situations and death-threatening fights, attempt to bum-rush a guy who can fire multiple nukes at him from multiple directions?
 
Because Jotaro wouldn't simply know that? They don't have previous knowledge about each other abilities. Jotaro would simply stop time and carve his skull in with a punch.
 
Alright, final reply to this since I've gotta hit the hay soon and because I'm done with arguing about this.
Jotaro would simply stop time and carve his skull in with a punch.
  • Supernatural Luck makes Star Platinum miss, since Courier's luck can make his opponents miss their sttacks even in point-blank range.
  • Speaking of luck, he can summon Miss Fortune, which will result in Jotaro suddenly being stunned long enough for Courier to eradicate him.
  • Jotaro has no resistance to heat or radiation-based stuff, Courier has plenty of weapons that will screw him over because of that.
  • Turbo does Turbo stuff.
Yadda yadda. Peace.
 
I mean, that's the argument assuming Jotaro wouldn't stop time to literally explode him in one punch. Nothing Courier has will affect Jotaro under the time stop. Or nothing he has will work under the time stop.
 
I mean, that's the argument assuming Jotaro wouldn't stop time to literally explode him in one punch. Nothing Courier has will affect Jotaro under the time stop. Or nothing he has will work under the time stop.
Is Jotaro's first In-Character move Time Stop?
 
Do you know how to read or are you pretending to be stupid like that?

Now try to do that with a dude rushing towards you trying to carve your skull in. Same bullshit argument was made against Geralt, didn't work because **** that, social influencing is bullshit and you can't simply sit down and try to convince a dude that doesn't even know you to try to not kill you.
Just going to throw my two cents in that Timestop VS VATS was actually the bigger part of the argument, and Courier was always oneshotted in the matchup apparently, but the mix of distance to cross, The World VS VATS, passive supernatural luck that causes misses and failure for the enemy while causing success for Courier despite ridiculous odds, and a lot of his gear dura negating was more the win-cons. Social Influencing was just another factor that could've made it harder/impossible to win if Courier ever spoke.

Geralt resisted the effects that Courier's Social Influencing had, it wasn't rejected because Social Influencing isn't a thing. Courier's Terrifying Presence let him trigger the fear-state of multiple opponents, and that was preformed just by his choice of words, Geralt can't feel fear so that greatly harmed its effectiveness, but Jotaro is not listed with similar influences and you're going to need to revise him if you want to claim he can. It doesn't matter if you think the ability is bullshit, the fact that it works is what matters.

Anyways, VATS has since been revised, it's no longer considered a Time Stop, it's a Perception Manipulation. The Luck is still on the table, and Courier's is quite stupid, but that's the part of the fight that needs reexamined. Not the Social Influencing.
 
About Dio match and jojo upgrade, im going to say all matches that should be removed.

Notable Victories section

Giorno Giovanna (DIO time stop and one-shot the fodder)
Diavolo (JoJo's Bizarre Adventure) Diavolo's Profile (this could be removed years ago, Diavolo can't do nothing aka DIO time stop and one-shot the fodder 2)
Straizo (same of diavolo, also it's kinda outadted, btw DIO pose and one-shot the fodder 3)
Dettlaff van der Eretein (massively AP stomps, DIO time stop and one-shot the fodder 4)

Notable loses section

Kars (pretty sure kars stomps, like, even in canon)
Rudol von Stroheim (why this matches got even added? Stroheim is already above santana which is above Dio, and in this case, Dio was from part 1. stroheim stomps)
Noriaki Kakyoin (What? that's totally wrong, self-explanatory btw)
Iron Man (Pretty outdated, i don't know about this one, i belive should be remaded)
Okuyasu Nijimura (Okuyasu is an idiot, Dio is more inteligent, Dio also AP stomps)
Jotaro Kujo (eh, i doubt that, Jotaro is weaker, this should probably be done again, since the result wouldn't be a stomp but not really a win for Jotaro)
Shinobu Oshino (So apparently this is done by a sword. Dio have many haxes and stuff, you know, DIO pose and one-shot the fodder 5)

Inconclusive section
Gwenpool (Gwenpool isn't that hard to counter, not even know why is inconclusive)
Giorno had knowledge on Dio's time stop, so he'd lead with attack reflection right away giving him a wincon

Diavolo can precog his time stop and skip it, so its not a "time stop gg" its more of "Will diavolo go for the head" so its still fine

Vs Straizo literally nothing has changed, they're both 8-C and have the exact same powerset,

Dettlaff should probably be redone

I agree with Kars and Stroheim being removed

Kakyoin will literally never let Dio get close, and he can dodge the stingy eyes because they both have prior knowledge, mind hax and lasers are pretty ooc anyways

Probably redo Okuyasu, Iron Man, and Shinobu

Jotaro still has complete prior knowledge on DIO and will still destroy his brain the moment he gets close to him during a time stop

Agree with Gwenpool I think
 
Giorno had knowledge on Dio's time stop, so he'd lead with attack reflection right away giving him a wincon
useless. literally we see the same thing in SC
Diavolo can precog his time stop and skip it, so its not a "time stop gg" its more of "Will diavolo go for the head" so its still fine
Diavolo try to kill Dio but regen gg.
Vs Straizo literally nothing has changed, they're both 8-C and have the exact same powerset,
pretty sure the profile is still baseline.
Kakyoin will literally never let Dio get close, and he can dodge the stingy eyes because they both have prior knowledge, mind hax and lasers are pretty ooc anyways
And Dio dodge emerald splash
Jotaro still has complete prior knowledge on DIO and will still destroy his brain the moment he gets close to him during a time stop
ye but 2 seconds of time stop vs 5 seconds.
 
useless. literally we see the same thing in SC

Diavolo try to kill Dio but regen gg.

pretty sure the profile is still baseline.

And Dio dodge emerald splash

ye but 2 seconds of time stop vs 5 seconds.
Joseph's barbed wire didn't work because Dio knew that Joseph was a hamon user, he wouldn't know about Giorno's attack reflection

Dio vs Diavolo isn't a stomp, its just decisive because Diavolo usually doesn't go for the head

That shouldn't be the case considering they scale off each other

He can't see stands

Jotaro in half a second tore a hole in Dio's chest, imagine what he could do with 2
 
Joseph's barbed wire didn't work because Dio knew that Joseph was a hamon user, he wouldn't know about Giorno's attack reflection
It's not like giorno first move, he do that in a defensive way
Dio vs Diavolo isn't a stomp, its just decisive because Diavolo usually doesn't go for the head
ah yes, 0% chanche of win
He can't see stands
Emeralds aren't incorporeal tho, Dio can touch it
Jotaro in half a second tore a hole in Dio's chest, imagine what he could do with 2
weaker than part 3 jotaro, who needed sometimes for hit Dio.
 
How he would touch and dodge something he can't see?
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If you put on a blindfold and I chase you with a baseball bat you won't be able to defend yourself even if you can touch the bat
 
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