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Why he couldn't make fun of Kakyoin then? If he did same with other characters, what makes a 17 year old school student an exception?
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Versus Thread Removal Requests (New forum)
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i don't agree lmao, he has no reason to start with anything that wins him the fight
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got upgraded. we are just going to remove matches that dosen't filt with current matches.
make a versus thread if you want.
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No I don't need to, the match is there already
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He doesnt. All Jotaro has to do is to take a pebble and throw it with enough force to literally destroy his body. It's easy.
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You know people in weaker tiers have beaten people in stronger ones right? What hax does the Courier have that can let him beat Jotaro?
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If I remember correctly, the Courier either beat him with Social Influencing or just hitting him with the Laser Rifle since the whole Heat doesn't equal Durability thing was going around at the time which can turn Giant Monsters into Ash.
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wat
Some busted, combat-applicable social influencing, radiation manipulation through a variety of weapons including literal nukes, spammable drugs that enhances their perception of time among other things, supernatural luck, et cetera.
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Yeah, doesn't sound like a stomp to me.
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Basically this. Pick up a piece of stone and launch at speeds high enough to simply shatter someone with durability similar to Jotaro's. He doesn't need to get closer to Courier to actually defeat him
Bullshit. From DIO's profile
Social Influencing (His presence and dialogues could generate rather abnormal reactions on others who he related to or just met, ultimately inducing things such as massive fear of him, loyalty or appreciation)
Jotaro can't be affected by it, dude is literally pissed 100% of the time.
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Same with Gumball, Gumball beat Jotaro by dodging with the helmet and writing with the notebook, so it should not be removed
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wat
Sure, I wanna see how would that work against a guy who managed to:
- Convince a savage that was about to start an all-out war that was going to result in a genocide or mass enslavement of an entire population of people to forfeit the war
- Convince a guy that was about to nuke two major factions into orbit to hand him over the nuclear-launch-machine-thingy
- Absolutely terrify a group of heavily armored technophiles armed to the teeth with powerful laser/plasma weaponry that could easily oneshot him
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Jotaro time stop and AP stomps
probably i saw another blog calc that said 0,3 tons. then it can stay
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Just redo the matches holy shit, this ain't the place to argue this, whether it's Dio vs Kak or Jotaro being 200% mad and some dude who can talk good.
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Gumball resists time stop and it is hard to punch him due to the helmet which has supernatural luck
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Do you know how to read or are you pretending to be stupid like that?
Now try to do that with a dude rushing towards you trying to carve your skull in. Same bullshit argument was made against Geralt, didn't work because **** that, social influencing is bullshit and you can't simply sit down and try to convince a dude that doesn't even know you to try to not kill you.
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The scan for the time stop isn't working.
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Just noticed that's Part 4 Jotaro, now the social influencing stuff is somewhat pointless.
Also, again, why would a guy who's known for being a gifted tactician when it comes to intense situations and death-threatening fights, attempt to bum-rush a guy who can fire multiple nukes at him from multiple directions?
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Alright, final reply to this since I've gotta hit the hay soon and because I'm done with arguing about this.
- Supernatural Luck makes Star Platinum miss, since Courier's luck can make his opponents miss their sttacks even in point-blank range.
- Speaking of luck, he can summon Miss Fortune, which will result in Jotaro suddenly being stunned long enough for Courier to eradicate him.
- Jotaro has no resistance to heat or radiation-based stuff, Courier has plenty of weapons that will screw him over because of that.
- Turbo does Turbo stuff.
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Yes.
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Just going to throw my two cents in that Timestop VS VATS was actually the bigger part of the argument, and Courier was always oneshotted in the matchup apparently, but the mix of distance to cross, The World VS VATS, passive supernatural luck that causes misses and failure for the enemy while causing success for Courier despite ridiculous odds, and a lot of his gear dura negating was more the win-cons. Social Influencing was just another factor that could've made it harder/impossible to win if Courier ever spoke.
Geralt resisted the effects that Courier's Social Influencing had, it wasn't rejected because Social Influencing isn't a thing. Courier's Terrifying Presence let him trigger the fear-state of multiple opponents, and that was preformed just by his choice of words, Geralt can't feel fear so that greatly harmed its effectiveness, but Jotaro is not listed with similar influences and you're going to need to revise him if you want to claim he can. It doesn't matter if you think the ability is bullshit, the fact that it works is what matters.
Anyways, VATS has since been revised, it's no longer considered a Time Stop, it's a Perception Manipulation. The Luck is still on the table, and Courier's is quite stupid, but that's the part of the fight that needs reexamined. Not the Social Influencing.
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Giorno had knowledge on Dio's time stop, so he'd lead with attack reflection right away giving him a wincon
Diavolo can precog his time stop and skip it, so its not a "time stop gg" its more of "Will diavolo go for the head" so its still fine
Vs Straizo literally nothing has changed, they're both 8-C and have the exact same powerset,
Dettlaff should probably be redone
I agree with Kars and Stroheim being removed
Kakyoin will literally never let Dio get close, and he can dodge the stingy eyes because they both have prior knowledge, mind hax and lasers are pretty ooc anyways
Probably redo Okuyasu, Iron Man, and Shinobu
Jotaro still has complete prior knowledge on DIO and will still destroy his brain the moment he gets close to him during a time stop
Agree with Gwenpool I think
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useless. literally we see the same thing in SC
Diavolo try to kill Dio but regen gg.
pretty sure the profile is still baseline.
And Dio dodge emerald splash
ye but 2 seconds of time stop vs 5 seconds.
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Doesn't part 1 Dio can't see Emerald Splash as it part of the stand? Meaning he can't just deflect the emerald splash as it's invisible attack for him.
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Joseph's barbed wire didn't work because Dio knew that Joseph was a hamon user, he wouldn't know about Giorno's attack reflection
Dio vs Diavolo isn't a stomp, its just decisive because Diavolo usually doesn't go for the head
That shouldn't be the case considering they scale off each other
He can't see stands
Jotaro in half a second tore a hole in Dio's chest, imagine what he could do with 2
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It's not like giorno first move, he do that in a defensive way
ah yes, 0% chanche of win
Emeralds aren't incorporeal tho, Dio can touch it
weaker than part 3 jotaro, who needed sometimes for hit Dio.
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How he would touch and dodge something he can't see?
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literally this
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Part 3 DIO can see Stands tho
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users can't touch stands either if they have a stand or not.
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If you put on a blindfold and I chase you with a baseball bat you won't be able to defend yourself even if you can touch the bat
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well, they can be seens probably, since they are material and can be touched
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