Sleep Manip lasts for a few seconds and apparently Dante has resurrection anyway. Besides, I'm pretty sure we had a thread for characters only having one possible ability to win not counting as a wincon.
Overlord775 said:Marisa's lost to Goku should be removed
Goku's AP advantage here is massive, as he's superior to his self who fought a Jiren showing a hint of hos power, which is masivelly above his supresssed self, who is superior to Infinite Zamsu, which is already above baseline Low 2-C thanks to his feat
Marisa can at best only scratch him with her attacks since she's only baseline
also, if Goku come close to being defeated, he might just turn UI and instantly wreck Marisa since that forms scales to the GoD's immesurably in to Low 2-C feat.
So, Goku eventually just knocks her out.
same applies to Pops's loss to Goku
Sama applies here, but worse since Pops has no survivability.
Pops is baseline, Goku one shots Jenna's loss against Goku should be removed too dout to being outdated, as it was made in 2017, when Goku didn't even have different keys for the different his power levels trought DBS
also, she's not even baseline, but powered by a Low 2-C source
Utsuho's match against Goku should be also removed as swell.
Goku's win condition in this match was litterally befriending her, which isn't a win condiction he could achive since he lacks any kind of social influancing abiity
also, the people in this match forgot that she could go "lolgetatomized" at any point, which she would have the chance to do since she has Low-Godly regen, and that the radiation from being right next to a star is >>>>>>>>>>>>>> being in space, so Goku's resistance is not good enought to not get radiation sickness.
Buttersamuri said:Hank vs Ping Pong Paddle
Phoenix Wright vs Ping Ping Paddle
Ping Pong has Mid Regenerationn. They ain't bypassing that ever. Nuff said.
Hank vs TTT. This isn't a stomp or anything. But it entirely glossed over anything hank could actually do. Saying TTT could handle anything hank could throw at him, which simply wasn't true. It was a barely 2 times power gap, and hank had a piercing weapon, plus preparation. His knowledge on hunting as well wasn't really considered. Saying he typically fights humans, when he also does enjoy hunting animals. The reason that we're put simply weren't valid. Being barely weaker and a piercing weapon Plus prep, he could definitely do damage. I think a Rematch is necessary and the old one removed.
Hank vs Freddy, I was told for this one to be brought here since Hank has like a 5 times gap, massive strength edge, Skills, and his arsenal all over Freddy. And Freddy had like. Nothing.
they are both one shot hax who destroy the body directly.....why would a version who does something more be treated differentlySchnee One said:Deconstruction of matter is Matter basef, EE is hax based
Sleep Manipulation = / = Mind Hax. At least most fictions doesn't portray it this wayOverlord775 said:Trasmutation is countered by Low-Godly Regen
Sleep Manipulation is a considered subpower of mind manipulation unless the power is shown to work thorught a different way
Bill literally starts with a snap that either transmutates or sleep haxes, so he will use it as first move unless she uses her instant LOLBoundary immediately tooOverlord775 said:it's mind hax because it manipulates the mind, which since it's not done though sleep powder or status effect inducement or any other uncoventional metod, it's blocked by mind resistance
Also, Yuraki is way more likely to just go LOLBoundary before he uses it anyway
Again, how can she do it if she's not conscious? The mind would remain, but if she's not conscious she just won't be able to do it. You need resistance to be knocked unconscious magically (example, Discord, who actually battled Bill) But that's derailing so I'll stop now. If you want to debate about it, then move it to the threadOverlord775 said:That's not sleep hax, that's just what being turned to stone does to a body
Yukari can just make a new body with her incorporeal mind or just boundary hax him
Because Bill doesn't have a default move, the general consensus is that he starts with what he uses the most, otherwise matches with Bill would be impossible due to that reason. Bill uses transmutation multiple time and is actually very likely to use it on any foe who isn't useful to Bill (he kept the Pines only because he needed them, and he was arrogant mostly against the Pines as well since he knew they're so much weaker than him and couldn't POSSIBLY defeat him (and we know how that turned out))Ricsi-viragosi said:Bill doesn't have a default power to use.
He is not once put in a positions where he fights someone he doesn't know personally, and above that most of his ability uses are specifically done due to this knowledge.
That is not justification for giving him a personality he doesn't have.Gilad Hyperstar said:Because Bill doesn't have a default move, the general consensus is that he starts with what he uses the most, otherwise matches with Bill would be impossible due to that reason. Bill uses transmutation multiple time and is actually very likely to use it on any foe who isn't useful to Bill (he kept the Pines only because he needed them, and he was arrogant mostly against the Pines as well since he knew they're so much weaker than him and couldn't POSSIBLY defeat him (and we know how that turned out))
So what you suggest as his starting move? You and anyone else who complains about Bill's starting move say that but doesn't say what his starting move should beRicsi-viragosi said:
You forgot that in a majority of those cases, Bill either did it because he knew they were weak (such as against Dipper in weirdmaggedon), or he need something from them (such as that they would make a deal with him). When People he don't have anything to gain from try to attack him (like in a VS match), Bill is very likely to snap them (Snapping Mabel to sleep and BFRing her as soon as she gives him the rift, turning Dipper and Mabel's friends to tapstries as soon as they intended to fight him, turning Ford into gold the moment he didn't need him anymore, twice.)Ricsi-viragosi said:You assume he acts against people as he acts against normal people. He bellitles them, he boasts to them, he let's them talk to him, and only then does he even begin to use any of his abilities.
Vastly superior to zombies, who can shatter doors. That's half a megajouleHeadlessKramerGeoff777 said:This fight should be removed from Vampire (Deadliest Warrior) and Connie Maheswara, as Connie is about 32.604604665 times stronger than the vampire if I did the math correctly. Connie is 3,423.48348983 kj vs the Vampire's 105 kj. If my math is wrong, my apologies for the inconvenience.
what? ee is spiritual because it also destroys the soul but that is not even relevant idk why you constantly bringing up that part like i am dumb or something......ee is also matter based because it destroys the body just like thanos snapSchnee One said:Incorrect
EE is a spiritual based ability that affects your body in soul.
Matter based directly affects the atoms physically and splits them apart
wait one last thing you are saying ee is beyond and superior to matter destruction because thanos only turns people into ash and ee destroys them completely.....so why will someone who survives the better version of destruction fall to a lesser version??Wokistan said:EE doesn't actually have to be spiritual. If you're erasing matter from existence entirely that's still beyond what you'll be able to do with matter manip since you aren't supposed to be able to destroy matter or energy.
Saikou The Lewd King said:This is nice and all, but the win condition relies on passive hax from Madoka, which would make it a stomp.I know the passive hax isn't an instant win here, but it still prevents Ilias from doing anything until Madoka pokes.