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Jonathan Joestar vs Homer Simpson

Homer's soul can come back into his body as long as the damage isn't lethal. It's a very limited resurrection but it happened twice.

If Homer's unconscious for something that should let him hospitalized, his soul can come back, but he won't fight back so it's a KO for JoJo.
 
Hard to say. Homer has far more experience but Jonathan has some form of martial arts on his side.
 
it would be highly unlikely for homer to be able to do much due to jonathan having alot more experiance in fighting somethings like homer coming to life and his regen but like calaca said he could just knock him out so joey jojojo shabadoo is going to win
 
It doesn't even leave him unconscious. The scene itself homer had a heart attack and went back into his body and woke back up. We know cause we even see him say Doh after Burns canceled the ham to send to Marge. So unless he already is in a state where he needs the hospital and his Regen couldn't cover it (since it works really fast, and can cover fairly fatal things), it should be fine to consider. With him being so similar to Homers strength. It's very unlikely he would know to put homer in such a condition. It's not impossible. If he kept beating on homer after he was dead. He could. But it's something he would need to know in advanced. Since he wouldn't do that in character.
 
The scene where he had the heart attack doesn't show him recovering consciousness after getting the soul back. He was hospitalized, and the D'oh is most likely a gag or his subconscious self reacting rather than him being actually conscious.
 
Agletonwiki said:
it would be highly unlikely for homer to be able to do much due to jonathan having alot more experiance in fighting somethings like homer coming to life and his regen but like calaca said he could just knock him out so joey jojojo shabadoo is going to win
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That's very improbable to assume homer could get no hits in or do very little damage. Homer is stronger in power and durability. (Not by much. But it's still an advantage). And being a skilled and trained fighter in many different regards. Military, Boxing, Security guard, mayor guard. He is definitely trained enough to fight against Jons martial arts. And possibly better. Also Homer has the experience. Not Jon. Calaca even brought that up. And homer doesn't need to kill Jon either. A pressure point is all it takes. Which Jon knocking out someone slightly physically superior to him with more experience is far less likely than Homer getting in a single pressure point on someone weaker and less experienced with a possible training advantage.

Homer takes it for minor strength and durability, experience, pressure points, and just enough if not better training
 
Jonathan via double non-physical interaction and Hermit Purple 2

It's perfectly in character for Jonathan to just cut things in half with Luck & Pluck (Like he did with Dio). I don't think Homer could regen from that unless his halves where reattached. If Jonathan destroys a vital organ then Homer can't regen from that. He'd probably go for that if he saw Homer keep getting up from his regular Hamon attacks.
 
That assumes homer doesn't get the one pressure point he would need to incapacitate tho. And with more experience and far more training, plus the strength advantage both lifting and AP. Homer would probably take Jonathan down before he resorts to that.
 
Jonathan has the advantage of some ranged attacks by moving Hamon through the ground. Jonathan dosn't have much trouble with a skill disadvantage, either, since he's fought trained knights like Bruford.
 
Still Homer is ultimately stronger and could get close. Nothing stops him from tanking the attacks and charging him. Homer both has Regen to cover any actual damage, resurrection to cover him getting fatally wounded (likely will work once cause Jon will know it when he comes back the first time, but that's a second life), and is stronger in both ways. The stand couldn't stop homer from charging through. And homer also does have guns if it comes down to range. So he isn't gonna be out ranged.
 
What is jons AP exactly? I'm interested. I just know people said homer was stronger. But I honestly haven't seen any calcs on Jon.
 
Homer: Stronger than 3.73 Gigajoules.

Jonathan: Stronger than 3.1 Gigajoules.

The different isn't a lot, but I would give Jonathan an advantage due to his Hamon negating durability. He also has higher range when it comes to physical attack due to Zoom Punch and better Regen. Also, if he realizes Homer is resurrecting, he could just punch him and Mind Control.
 
Ok. So over 0.7 vs over 0.9

Homers feat is also undervalued due to the fact that's the frag end. And this pulverized it. So homers got a small AP advantage. Which then there's Jons issue

Homer

Experience, Training, strength, lifting strength, durability, Regen, Resurrection, durability Bypass

Range = cause homers guns

Jon

Intelligence, durability bypass


So. Just cause Jon has range. Doesn't automatically qualify him a win. Homer has range to. And he just is better trained and experienced. It doesn't matter that Jon has fought experienced people cause that doesn't change the fact homer is still more experience, trained, stronger, tougher, with some hacks like Regen and resurrection which he wouldn't know to counter the first time he fights homer. And homer can bypass durability too Via pressure points
 
But he would have to Know to do that. It's not something he would immediately resort to. It's very likely should Jon get lucky enough to kill homer. Homer still would be intact enough and with his Regen, able to take most damage. His resurrection but basically gives him a second chance. May not be a third one cause Jon would finish him off the second time with something more fatal should he be able to pull it off (which I still stay he shouldn't). But resurrection gives a pretty big advantage in surprise. And well to an already stronger, tougher, more experienced, trained, person with durability bypass method himself.
 
Jonathan literaly fights zombies. He basically never knows if what he killed is actually dead.
 
Homer isn't a zombie. He is a person. Jon isn't gonna assume homer can resurrect. And know to cut him apart fatally.
 
Or Homer kills because he is still more experienced, more trained, Regen capabilities, his own range options, and can resurrect should he screw up somehow.

Both can bypass durability

Both have range options

Only homer is physically stronger and tougher

Only homer had more experience and training

Only homer has Regen/resurrection capability

So homer should take more times than not.

Jon Could win. But that doesn't mean he does. It's a matter both are similar but ones slightly stronger, experience, training, and has hacks that Jon neither knows of or has.
 
the first thing Post-Overpass Jonathan did when he attack DIO was cut him in half, pretty sure that's fatal.
 
Jonathan can regenerate from a broken neck, so most of the damage Homer does just gets healed.

Jonathan is much more likely to use his Durability Negation than Homer is to use his Pressure Points, since his entire fighting style revolves around Hamon. Same thing with the sword, it's his main weapon.

Yeah, and?

Slightly stronger, to a point in which it makes no difference.

Won't stop him from being Mind Controlled or cut to pieces.

Jonathan has better Regen and can bypass Resurrection by damaging his body heavily.

Also, you really shouldn't use "he has hax the other neither knows or has" when going against the guy with Durability Negation, better Regen, Mind Control and Biological Maniulation.
 
Pressure points. Guns. Both take out

Still would have to get the hit in which again. Homers the better fighter here. As well. Could also gun him down

Having a strength edge both physically and lifting wise makes it far easier for homer to get in close and to do damage as well prevent Dio from doing damage. Cause being real. He isn't gonna immediately resort to those hacks. If we look at it that way.

Better Regen? Ehh. Homer healed from having his heart ripped out and put back in his chest, that heals both a giant hole in his body and all the cords in the body that attach to the heart.

Except it's pretty important that he doesn't know cause that means homer always has the chance of coming back should he actually have won the first fight but didn't do enough damage to keep him down. (Aka beyond his Regen/resurrection capacity)
 
He doesn't start with either.

Homer doesn't seem to be much of a dodger, and since he doesn't know about Hamon, he could try to block or overpower Jonathan's hits.

Homer gets close = instantly cut or Mind Controlled. And yes, Jonathan is clever enough to figure out that homer is resurrecting and then go for incapacitating attacks, specially since he has faced Regen users before.

Low-Mid > High-Low.

Jonathan can do the same with his better Regen.
 
Homer would pull it a gun pretty fast. When he carries them. He showed a quick addiction to them. Even in episodes that didn't have to do with guns he has pulled him out. Like when Lisa was trying to smoke he took the cigarette and shot it several times

But he ain't gonna let himself be hit by things that would obviously be fatal or let himself get cut at. Even if we assume he was full on like Rocky and tanked most attacks.

If they went for the instant kill like that. Gun him down. GG. Which also explained is pretty likely do to homers thing on guns. And that's assuming he could get that hit in. Cause if speed is equal. Homers more skilled and wouldn't be stupid enough to let himself get hit by obviously damaging things. Like being cut.

If that's considering Low mid Regen. So would homers. Having your heart ripped out, even if placed by in your chest would be pretty fatal to most every human.


And jon can't resurrect. He can heal. But homer can heal and resurrect.
 
So no pressure points in characters? Nice.

Jonathan's hamon punches aren't obvious at all, they're punches, plus, Homer still isn't much a dodger.

Zoom Punch to catch him off-guard while he is pulling the gun, GG.

Regenerationn (Low-Mid, can heal a broken neck and broken bones), Regenerationn (High-Low. Healed very quickly after having his heart ripped out of his chest and put back). Jonathan's is better, simple as that.

Homer can't resurrect if his body is severely damaged, and Jonathan's Regen is better.
 
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