No, no, no my good man. Come out and let the world see you in all the glory of your bias. Don't hide behind any new point. You typed with your own hands that the justification there was infallible despite it being more of a metaphor than what is here. That is the only point that stands.
As i told you if you use that logic with the statements in this thread it is more likely to be plot.
Shall I give you proof?
this is what now? The 5th time I'm sending this? You gonna ignore it or you just haven't seen it? While I can believe you haven't, lugh_tuathe_de clearly has and is just straw manning at this point.
If it were Fate, the author would say it is fate manipulation, as he always treats it in his verse. When he ever mentions fate, he explicitly means fate manipulation.
Look at the last sentence
Coping mf
I find these hard to see especially how thr other verse supporters acts right now. They would probably stay away from it. But well i hope not.
Says the one hiding behind a new point
Keep crying bro because your wank isn't going well.
Is literal. Like the theater thing, it sound like metaphor but nousgalia and arnos confirm it in the scan i give
The last part is really unnecessary
If fate manipulation works via script, then skill is mostly plot manipulation.
Dang, you really did not read anything in this comments. I will repeat it again and for 100th time, if you actually read the verse cosmology and how the verse mechanics works, Author always mention "fate" as fate manipulation in his texts explicitly, clearly, undoubtedly and he repeatedly has it shown that.
It's really not considering Anos stans behavior in this thread+every upgrade thread.
It is still regardless unnecessary, so avoid it or I will report you for derailing with unnecessary comments. Thanks
I not derailing I just genuinely disagree with plot manip.
That part I didn't understand, his comment proves it's plot manipulation, but according to what he said, he obviously disagrees, so confused.
As his last comment, he actually wanted to heat it against us or derail it. Obv trolling. I am gonna ignore it for now.
reality functioning via script=/=manipulating plot.
Yep
You're saying that to sound funny, right?
Fate but script..... mmhmh Yes
Literally it is mentioned that "Everything is according to the plot of the world."
And that could very well be metaphor, do you have proof that this refers to an actual plot in terms of a fictional meta? As far as I can tell from the thread, your argument is resting on the fact that we take this statement at face value.
This literally means nothing without the context of a more meta description. Gods manipulating reality from a higher level would be perceived as plot manipulation by those under them but it doesn't mean there is meta narrative transcendance.
Metaphor but arnos and nousgalia confirm it. And you keep saying metaphor???
Where are you seeing the metaphor here? It is clearly mentioned "the plot of the world.", see the previous comments, people thought that when mentioning world Eques was referring to himself, and others said that "plot of the world." I wanted to say that by mentioning "plot" it is actually mentioning "plan", people try to take arguments that have nothing to do with it to refute this, so tell me what Eques is mentioning when saying "plot of the world."
What would that be a metaphor for?
again the plot of the world here could very easily just be a matter of immense reality warping or fate manipulation that non god entities in reality perceive as akin to having their plots manipulated but there doesn't seem to be any evidence of narrative transcendance at all.
Why the meta narrative transcendance is need???
I want to know how necessary this comment was to this thread.
im sorry I can't understand your comment my apologies.
