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Why do you think of it that way?Ini harus alt bukan?
Sorry if my English is bad, I partially use gogle translite to help me.
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Why do you think of it that way?Ini harus alt bukan?
Tbf your first msg’s were ******** on anos fans, doesn’t give off the fair discussion vibe.Can we not act like people who are disagreeing are doing so without any valid reasons? because right now more people disagree then agree so...
You forgot to add me to neutral.@Dog3352 no, you're the ignorant one for not bothering to read the link I've sent you where the kanji has different meanings here. How about clicking on that for once and address the argument instead of pretending it doesn't exist, because saying "we're ignorant" isn't enough.
Everything rotates according to his order is the most flowery language for fate hax I've ever seen. The fact he's talking about dictating others and controlling them makes it very clear he's talking about fate hax and not plot hax since he isn't doing any of the blatant showings for plot hax.
wow, congratulations on bringing up a random line I already tackled which debunks plot hax when they literally say it seems to be the stage instead of it being a literal stage. Totally great argument here.
@WarbleComeBack thanks for the appeal to motive fallacy here, that totally debunks literally everything I've ever said and totally cannot be applied to your end where so many folks only want this so they can stomp someone. If you wanna accuse someone of being biased, how about you check your own side first before attempting to throw shade, because you are doing a very shit job here of making your arguments legit.
@EldemadeDityjon So no attempt to prove that the theatres and script thing are a tangible thing? Good to know this discussion was worth it and not a waste of time.
@Fixxed Yes you are interpreting things here, especially when you don't prove your case with evidence to suggest the plot is being warped in a literal sense here. Never said to be just a theatre, literally everything about the theatre description is so metaphorical with no elaboration on it being literal that plot hax ain't happening here. Also that's not how plot hax works here, for an ability as specific as that you'd need actual showings of plot hax happening as it can be interpreted in many other ways.
Anyways I've counted the total votes here, and I'm being generous and including the one time comment votes.
Agree: 8 (Eldemadydityjon, dread, warblecomeback, Gustitalk12, oberon, accelerator, Yopercy, wwereymy235)
Disagree: 14 (Mad dog of Fujiwara, Theglassman12, deonment, Blackcurrant91, Oblivion of the Endless, Regidian, Everything12, Lugh Tuathe De, Zencha9, KntolRicat, Naitodesu, Vietthai96, Shmooply, Catpija)
Neutral: 5 (Overlord THE END, Dereck03, Shadow Somnius, Caduz213, Actuallyspaceman)
If I were to be much harsher and remove the bolded votes by people who flat out confirmed to be biased on this upgrade just because they want a character to win, and not because of the legitimacy of the arguments this drops down to a 6 votes, meaning it's outnumbered 2:1. This plot hax has been rejected, more staff members disagreed to this, move on to the causality stuff, then I'm going to close this thread once the probability stuff gets accepted.
Nah only thing here i see is you hate Anos supporters which is backed up by your own comments. Really you have no right to criticize others for agreeing.Can we not act like people who are disagreeing are doing so without any valid reasons? because right now more people disagree then agree so...
Just the low amount of msg’s on your account, how you came a short amount of time after glassman said plot was basically rejected, account made the same day as Dog3352. Things like thatWhy do you think of it that way?
Sorry if my English is bad, I partially use gogle translite to help me.
It wasn't actually. My first message was me disagreeing which people dogpiled onto with 3-4 replies in less then 30 seconds.Tbf your first msg’s were ******** on anos fans, doesn’t give off the fair discussion vibe.
I don't fully know the wiki standard, so I don't know, but if someone disagrees for no valid reason, it sounds like someone who shouldn't even be on the topic.Can we not act like people who are disagreeing are doing so without any valid reasons? because right now more people disagree then agree so...
Well evidently the presented information isn't as one sided as verse supporters think it is because the votes disagree with your premise.I don't fully know the wiki standard, so I don't know, but if someone disagrees for no valid reason, it sounds like someone who shouldn't even be on the topic.
One more comment from that smart mouth of yours and it's the RvR thread for you. Why don't you go learn their main language so their comments would be easily understandable for you?I like how half the comments agreeing aren't even in readable english.
Well, I made my account a few months ago, but I don't like participating in CRTS, and it's a miracle I'm participating in this one.Just the low amount of msg’s on your account, how you came a short amount of time after glassman said plot was basically rejected, account made the same day as Dog3352. Things like that
Stop with derailing.Just the low amount of msg’s on your account, how you came a short amount of time after glassman said plot was basically rejected, account made the same day as Dog3352. Things like that
go ahead my guy, I haven't done anything wrong. Just pointing out how many freshly made accounts are agreeing with terrible english.One more comment from that smart mouth of yours and it's the RvR thread for you. Why don't you go learn their main language so their comments would be easily understandable for you?
As I said before, new things were added after the person who disagreed left, new explanations of certain things, among other things, before, even I found it a little vague, I have read all the chapters that Eques appears to confirm certain things.Well evidently the presented information isn't as one sided as verse supporters think it is because the votes disagree with your premise.
That doesn't give you any right to criticize others. Freshly made? LMAO those guys accounts are showing as 2-3 months old. Also You don't have to be oldest account holder to be smart.go ahead my guy, I haven't done anything wrong. Just pointing out how many freshly made accounts are agreeing with terrible english.
Do alt votes count? If not I think it’s important to figure out if they are alts. If they do…Stop with derailing.
Just the low amount of msg’s on your account, how you came a short amount of time after glassman said plot was basically rejected, account made the same day as Dog3352. Things like tha
Again you don't have to care about them. Wiki would have blocked them already if they are alts only one account is allowed for one users. So let us stop with derailing. Yeah their vote counts.Do alt votes count? If not I think it’s important to figure out if they are alts. If they do…i have so many email accounts.
OkAgain you don't have to care about them. Wiki would have blocked them already if they are alts only one account is allowed for one users. So let us stop with derailing. Yeah their vote counts.
Ok, you right. Wasn’t straight to anos hate. MbDisagree with plot manip. Seems like flowery language the character is using to describe something complicated with a metaphor.
Yes, I am an entity, more specifically a being from another dimension that despite not being of an advanced age, has a huge back pain.You think too far by saying I exist the same entity as @Dog3352 . . . anyway i just issued my opinion, you can ignore it, i'm also don't care.
More specific so I don’t have to read his 45 paragraphs at 1 am please? If not ok.Disagreed with plot manipulation via glass reason above.
Via what?Disagreed with plot manipulation via glass reason above.
This sounds good, besides, I'm too tired right now to look for a specific comment among several others, it's 5 am and I haven't slept at all, my back is in massive pain, and to top it off, I have insomnia .More specific so I don’t have to read his 45 paragraphs at 1 am please? If not ok.
Yeah, and before anyone asks why I didn’t ask for agree’s reasoning, it’s because I understand why people would agree, I don’t understand where the disagreement comes from.This sounds good, besides, I'm too tired right now to look for a specific comment among several others, it's 5 am and I haven't slept at all, my back is in massive pain, and to top it off, I have insomnia .
Can you link the comment where he actually refuted ?Disagreed with plot manipulation via glass reason above.
We don’t need to spam them if they were coming back they prob would’ve by now.Can you link the comment where he actually refuted ?
Yea just go read back above they don't need to fetch the exact comment for you. Tbh it would be easier to find if the thread didn't got spammed by message every minutesYeah, and before anyone asks why I didn’t ask for agree’s reasoning, it’s because I understand why people would agree, I don’t understand where the disagreement comes from.
I swear if he sends a comment from him saying something like: "Plot has multiple meanings"Can you link the comment where he actually refuted ?
You see I would, but I don’t wanna and it doesn’t benefit me. Which is why I said “if not ok.”Yea just go read back above they don't need to fetch the exact comment for you. Tbh it would be easier to find if the thread didn't got spammed by message every minutes
Well, if he disagrees "via such a comment" he should at least know where the comment is, even if he really wasn't obliged to paste the comment, making people reread all this until they find a refutation that isn't "plot has several meanings "...it would take a while.Yea just go read back above they don't need to fetch the exact comment for you. Tbh it would be easier to find if the thread didn't got spammed by message every minutes
Yea just go read back above they don't need to fetch the exact comment for you. Tbh it would be easier to find if the thread didn't got spammed by message every minutes
The order of the Chief God? Or all orders? Eques is mentioned with various titles he gave himself, but God of Fate is certainly not one of them.I am still waiting for you to show me where they actually pointed out order = fate in my scans.
If you're talking about they literally, like literally said the statement "Order=Fate" there isn't, and i meant different by "he's using your own scans against". But imma leave this thread looking how the verse supporters act good luck on getting an admin give input to this.I am still waiting for you to show me where they actually pointed out order = fate in my scans.
Well, I don't remember Eldemade cursing anyone, and he wasn't angry because they disagreed with him, but because they spammed 2-3 pages of the same aegument that were refuted with by me, him, Fixxed and Tatsumi several times. And thank you for wishing us good luck, in case you were sincere.If you're talking about they literally, like literally said the statement "Order=Fate" there isn't, and i meant different by "he's using your own scans against". But imma leave this thread looking how the verse supporters act good luck on getting an admin give input to this.This thread is really toxic especially how you guys act after people just disagreed with you.Anyways goodluck hope it gets accepted for you guys and i'm unfollowing this.
I don't remember cursing anyone. I was just asking you to show me proof for glassman actual refute which you claimed.If you're talking about they literally, like literally said the statement "Order=Fate" there isn't, and i meant different by "he's using your own scans against". But imma leave this thread looking how the verse supporters act good luck on getting an admin give input to this.This thread is really toxic especially how you guys act after people just disagreed with you.Anyways goodluck hope it gets accepted for you guys and i'm unfollowing this.
I can remember you trying to rush things along in the 2-A thread based on 2 staffs agreement, so why don't you try to rush things along this time too based on 2 staffs disagreeing with you? Or it does not apply in this case?It's s not like Wiki lacks any staffs. We will try to contact other staff no need to just close this. If you disagree sure we will keep that as disgree.
I can remember you trying to rush things along in the 2-A thread based on 2 staffs agreement, so why don't you try to rush things along this time too based on 2 staffs disagreeing with you? Or it does not apply in this case?
Everything and firestorm disagreed, you have 2 staff votes and so many more normal users, it is enough to pass CRT.
Like I said same logic like you did, staff disagrees the thread should be closed and changes staff agrees to can be applied.
- We are the verse supporters we can wait for other staffs to give their input. Don't see why need to close it when literary nothing is concluded
On this one 14 disagrees and 2 staffs while 6-7 agrees
- Don't bring Last thread argument where only you disgreed there. Here half agrees and half disgreed both are not same.
Your pov isn't wrong and he also disagrees anyways.
- Also Everything himself states our POV isn't wrong
Go read the old thread. You kept circling the same thing. That and this has nothing to do with it.Like I said same logic like you did, staff disagrees the thread should be closed and changes staff agrees to can be applied.
So non verse supporters don't deserve for staff to give input in a thread they think is iffy??
Why do you try to recount the votes 6-7 really? Him disagreeing is based on his own preferences so technically he is not saying our POV is wrong. So we can still continue unlike other thread where no one except you disgreed.On this one 14 disagrees and 2 staffs while 6-7 agrees
Your pov isn't wrong and he also disagrees anyways.
No LMAO. Go back to previous thread where atleast 20-25 people + 3-4 staffs agreed and one neutral and only disgreed was you. Don't try to link both. Here only shady behaviour I see is you trying to implement different threads logic together where one has half agree and half disagree and other had 99% agreeing and one disagree that's you.Anyway this is derailing, I just needed to call you out on such shady behaviour so next time whether someone agrees or disagrees with you, you calm down and wait for them to table their arguments and call for further input and not try to rush things along needlessly