Goku stomped a Granolah clone though and was hit with a pressure point strike only after his UI accuracy decreased.
why
leaning towards Vegeta because that's a huge anti feat for Goku's stamina. They only fought briefly and his accuracy dropped this much. Vegeta could eventually overcome him and his endurance proved to be superior to Goku's stamina.
The accuracy drop is honestly plot induced stupidity, all the times UI was used this was never a problem but now suddenly it is, whatever though, I can still make the point that at the beginning, Goku had no openings but as UI goes on he gets more and more openings on him, so granolah only needs one opening to exploit which explains why he was able to take down Goku so quickly. Also stamina is not an issue in UI mode, UI is almost like base form now, after the moro arc, it doesn't harm gokus stamina at all unlike UI sign, stamina has nothing to do with the accuracy drop though, it's not like Goku was at all tired when he was oko'd. And you can't use the Granolah one shot Goku thing, I already explained why that doesn't make Granolah scale to Goku.
Oof then that's a retcon to the moro fight. Anyway I'm still backing Goku because the gap between UE and UI is huge.
" I can't main tain this for too long"
"Will free you of the Stamina drain"
" It does tend to cause me problems"
I mean yes. It's terrible writing from Toyotaro's side to always " terrible stamina" as a weakpoint but we have 3 statements that he can't maintain it for long. Concerning the Moro fight we have no time frame. And in the End he did drop out of it.
Secondly Vegeta took 4 of those deadly hits from Granolah and laughed at it.
It's basically Stamina vs Endurance.
That was a weak clone though and if his accuracy drops he will certainly take more hits just like he did with Jiren
Vegeta tanked the same shots 4 times and kept fighting indicating he is far more powerful than Goku.
Proof that it was that much weaker? Nothing suggests it was weaker, just that he used a clone of him instead
Vegeta literally couldn't stand and had to resort to a final desperate attack to finish Granolah, which failed and Vegeta got defeated
Not in the manga though. Or is it compositve Vegeta vs Goku? Then I change my vote to Goku
Yeah, and yeah, Goku's accuracy and stamina loss is miniscule even though they make it a big deal in the manga.
Especially when it'll be very hard for Vegeta to even notice it, since the only reason Granolah noticed it at all is because his right eye can spot the weak points in someone's body, which is what he did to Goku
That's what I've been saying for the past 13 years.
Again. Vegeta took 4 of his vital point hits while Goku got oneshot by the same hit. This is a huge stats advantage in favour of Vegeta.
This is bullshit. Those attacks were all regular punches, except for the pressure point that vegeta was 1. Ready for and tried to stop 2. Granolah barely connected 3. It was in the guts which is a non vital organ 4. Vegeta was defeated by the attack before healing. In Goku's case he was hit by the same attack but he was 1. Weakened due to being off guard and vulnerable 2. Goku was struck in the heart which is a vital organ and then struck right in the wound hole and sent halfway across the planet. Goku is the one with the massive stat advantage due to the sheer difference between UI sign and perfect UI.
Just because he is using a fist . doesn't mean he isn't targetting vital points. Universe 6 Hit targets vital points with his fists as well.
tbf, it's kind of hard to miss vegeta's brain given his forehead is 1/5th of his total height
Nice logic bro, so Vegeta gets punched in the brain and only bleeds a little and is fine but this is vital pressure point technique, but apparently the same technique granolah uses to lightly tap vegeta in the not even vital organ, the guts, and dude immediately coughs out his intestines all over granolah and almost dies.
