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We will discuss the overall scaling from all calcs accepted until now or just the one from the Hell Train being stopped?Low-end has been accepted and can be applied now.
Before making a CRT i'd like to discuss scaling
i believe that we've discussed Class M to Class G scaling for regulars and the High 6-A scaling only has two people. This means that we need to only talk about tier Low 6-B to tier 6-A+ scaling.We will discuss the overall scaling from all calcs accepted until now or just the one from the Hell Train being stopped?
Alright then, about the 6-A+ characters, I think Traumerei and the rest of the 9 Family Heads should be just 6-A+ (With Yurin, Eduan and Arie Hon being stronger than Traumerei), with Zahard and Urek being "At least 6-A+" as they are stronger than the three strongest Family Headsi believe that we've discussed Class M to Class G scaling for regulars and the High 6-A scaling only has two people. This means that we need to only talk about tier Low 6-B to tier 6-A+ scaling.
Also, Season 2 Black March Mode Baam should be 2x stronger than two Rankers combined, as he overpowered an combined attack from Charlie and Vice-Altar Director, both who scales to 1/3 of the Hell Train calcFirst off, lower High rankers are now 6.71 teratons in power or Low 6-B+
Rankers will be 1/3 of the 6.71 teraton rating or 2.23 teratons
LS for high rankers is now 3.5478261e+15 kg or Class P
LS for rankers is now 1.1826087e+15 kg or baseline Class P
Just lifting a single car (Cheonhee with telekinesis) is 26,877,470,457,900 kg or Class T
And thus we have to rescale every ranker in the tower
I believe we shouldn't scale Karaka's durability or any character to 1% Urek, as Karaka had more than half of his body destroyed by a small beam from Urek's finger and Hell Joe was utterly defeated by 10% Urek without shinsooAlso wouldn't we have to rescale Hell Joe and all likely 6-Bs?
Idk if you've answered me this before, but Urek is using only 1% of his shinsoo boosted power to create the mr finger feat while HJ fights a weakened one.
I think that on the main page of the verse we should put a link linked to an explanation about Redan (which is the main reason why we have so many multipliers) or explain this on the page itselfFinally, we need an explained scaling chain for everyone in the AP department cause without context it seems as though we're adding random multipliers.
explaining it on the page itself makes more sense.I think that on the main page of the verse we should put a link linked to an explanation about Redan (which is the main reason why we have so many multipliers) or explain this on the page itself
Yes, making a blog explaining why ToG have so many multipliers and put the link of it on the main page of the verse is much betterexplaining it on the page itself makes more sense.
Actually, how about we compile speed, LS and AP scaling and make a blog that explains everything that there is to know about it.
Okay um, yeah, with that result, I DEFINITELY don't think that the diagram of the paths in the Hell Train should be used to get it's size. (Considering that there's Warp Pads and teleporters and all that)First off, lower High rankers are now 6.71 teratons in power or Low 6-B+
Rankers will be 1/3 of the 6.71 teraton rating or 2.23 teratons
LS for high rankers is now 3.5478261e+15 kg or Class P
LS for rankers is now 1.1826087e+15 kg or baseline Class P
Just lifting a single car (Cheonhee with telekinesis) is 26,877,470,457,900 kg or Class T
And thus we have to rescale every ranker in the tower
disagree. While teleporters exist, they do not contradict the existence of passage ways, not to mention as far as i remember they could teleport you to the next specific area which for all we know could be just the next car which would be the best way to go from one side to another. Not to mention that we see those exact passage ways, i used for my scaling and they are clearly a thing and even in later chapters we see people constantly walking around them.Okay um, yeah, with that result, I DEFINITELY don't think that the diagram of the paths in the Hell Train should be used to get it's size. (Considering that there's Warp Pads and teleporters and all that)
Alright fair enough with your facts, logic, and reasonable argument, but my emotions are still angry about having to rescale the entirety of the Mid to High Tiers in wake of thisdisagree. While teleporters exist, they do not contradict the existence of passage ways, not to mention as far as i remember they could teleport you to the next specific area which for all we know could be just the next car which would be the best way to go from one side to another. Not to mention that we see those exact passage ways, i used for my scaling and they are clearly a thing and even in later chapters we see people constantly walking around them.
Additionally, the hell train can fit the entire motor sector inside of it and its just part of the train, not the whole car. The motor sector is easily a kilometer or more in diameter which would mean that the train would need to be large enough to hold an object of that size within itself whilst not imposing on the corridors and test rooms and such.
Overall, it is more consistent than 1km as 1km would be too low to hold a whole motor sector, not to mention teleporters do not contradict anything as they can simply tp you to other rooms and to other train cars.
Because he consistently gains power in proportion to the power of the people whose souls he's eaten. This is best shown when he tells Khun that the souls of the Rankers Evankhell roasted weren't really doing much, and that he'd need the soul of the Branch Leader in order to reach his Prime state.Why exactly do we scale White to the souls he absorbs?
is that sarcasm i smell or am i just experiencing trust issues?Alright fair enough with your facts, logic, and reasonable argument
mate, i am sorry, but its just how CRTs work. I've done (and in the process of doing) two verse wide revisions across all the 200+ sth pokemon profiles while editing their AP, LS, Speed, SS, and adding abilities that are missing or missing pre-evolutions. This is a pain in the ass. A massive one at that. Making an updated and superior scaling for one of your favorite verses is a lot better than arguing with a certain super annoying person, making like 6 different calcs, arguing with calc memebers, revising hundreds of profiles almost by myself...and yet i somehow still handle it (I do get help but i do most of those revisions).but my emotions are still angry about having to rescale the entirety of the Mid to High Tiers in wake of this
hmmm is it really directly proportional to their ap..? Eh, makes sense i guess he did go from being thrashed by base Kallavan to 1v1ing him at full power.Because he consistently gains power in proportion to the power of the people whose souls he's eaten. This is best shown when he tells Khun that the souls of the Rankers Evankhell roasted weren't really doing much, and that he'd need the soul of the Branch Leader in order to reach his Prime state.
Name Hunt Redan Ran matched Arie Inieta, whose AP is 304.3 Kilotons, and Name Hunt Base Ran is 2x weaker than his Redan, which is 152.1 Kilotonswhere do the 152 kilotons values come from? Like i can guess they're from Hoaquin but why do they double downscale from him?
S2 Ch 184Also boys, i want two scans.
1. of the explanations of Redan's functions so we can actually make the blog properly
1. Rak clashing with Casano
then write this stuff out. I am making a blog. If you know where to get the scans i mentioned, tell me.Name Hunt Redan Ran matched Arie Inieta, whose AP is 304.3 Kilotons, and Name Hunt Base Ran is 2x weaker than his Redan, which is 152.1 Kilotons
okS2 Ch 184
I already made one, but it needs to be updated and have Speed and LS addedthen write this stuff out. I am making a blog. If you know where to get the scans i mentioned, tell me.
1. The chapter from about Redan multiplier, it is from the site TheCompany, the old translation group of ToG before LINE (and they are better translators than the LINE ones): https://bato.to/chapter/904284Also boys, i want two scans.
1. of the explanations of Redan's functions so we can actually make the blog properly
1. Rak clashing with Casano
From what the Blog has now, it looks very good and it's not far from being complete, but after it is complete, then we likely should do a CRT of the statsTower of God Scaling explanations
vsbattles.fandom.com
its a WIP but good enough atm.
Anyhow i found a problem with Data Maschenny's 40k mach as it is unreasonable. You cannot simply say "well she's probs above 2x the original speed" with no evidence for that claim. Sadly VSBW works like that and now Sub-rel+ will probably have to go and we'll simply be sub-rel.
There's is evidence, it's the massive amount of [Greater Than] signs next to the rating, from the fact that she stomp-blitzes the fastest characters slower than her, which in turn are already faster than than the next fastest characters, continuing down a train of characters until hitting 2nd Redan Name Hunt Ran.Tower of God Scaling explanations
vsbattles.fandom.com
its a WIP but good enough atm.
Anyhow i found a problem with Data Maschenny's 40k mach as it is unreasonable. You cannot simply say "well she's probs above 2x the original speed" with no evidence for that claim.
This isn't enough evidence by VSBW standards as there are occasions when even massive >>>> signs don't help at all.There's is evidence, it's the massive amount of [Greater Than] signs next to the rating, from the fact that she stomp-blitzes the fastest characters slower than her, which in turn are already faster than than the next fastest characters, continuing down a train of characters until hitting 2nd Redan Name Hunt Ran.
Redan Maschenny upscales to Sub Relativistic+ as the Redan multiplier is 2x, and she is far faster than any of the Sub Relativistics below her
What's wrong here?@Arceus0x
By the way, I noticed some things wrong on the Blog, and this is what has to be corrected or put:
AP:
Speed:
- Name Hunt Base Ran is 2x weaker than his Redan: 152.1 Kilotons (High 7-C)
- Power of Souls Baam is far superior to Post-3 Siblings Absorption Hoaqin: >>> 1.2 Megatons (Low 7-B)
- Post-3 Siblings Absorption Hoaqin clashes with her: >>>>>>>Mach 13385.6
- PoS Baam is superior to Post-3 Siblings Absorption Hoaqin: >>>>>>>>Mach 13385.6
We should change justification of 152.1 Kilotons with Name Hunt Base Ran being 2x weaker than his Redan instead of being comparable to Daniel, and we should fix "Post-Clone Absorption White" to "Post-3 Siblings Absorption Hoaqin" in the Regulars/Tier 7 Scaling, since Power of Souls Baam and Last Station Arc Endorsi never fought Post-Clone White, only Post-3 Siblings HoaqinWhat's wrong here?
donezoWe should change justification of 152.1 Kilotons with Name Hunt Base Ran being 2x weaker than his Redan instead of being comparable to Daniel, and we should fix "Post-Clone Absorption White" to "Post-3 Siblings Absorption Hoaqin" in the Regulars/Tier 7 Scaling, since Power of Souls Baam and Last Station Arc Endorsi never fought Post-Clone White, only Post-3 Siblings Hoaqin
I'll show you how it should be changed, like this:
Name Hunt Base Ran should be comparable to Name Hunt Novick, who is comparable to Daniel: 152.1 Kilotons (High 7-C) --------> Name Hunt Base Ran is 2x weaker than his Redan: 152.1 Kilotons (High 7-C)
Power of Souls Baam is far superior to Post-Clone Absorption White: >>> 1.2 Megatons (Low 7-B) --------> Power of Souls Baam is far superior to Post-3 Siblings Hoaqin: >>> 1.2 Megatons (Low 7-B)
Post-Clone Absorption White clashes with her: >>>>>>>Mach 13385.6 -------> Post-3 Siblings Absorption Hoaqin clashes with her: >>>>>>>Mach 13385.6
PoS Baam is superior to Post-Clone Absorption White: >>>>>>>>Mach 13385.6 --------> PoS Baam is superior to Post-3-Siblings Hoaqin: >>>>>>>> Mach 13385.6