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Passive mindhax specifically since Beyond won't have a way to cause the enemy to not use it
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Top 5 Strongest Characters for Every Tier Part 8
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So basically half of Medaka's cast and most desperados from Rakudai stomp?Genericstickman said:
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Also, I don't think Giorno defeats Joji, I'm sorry. When and where was this match? Nothing in Giorno's arsenal can make him stop believing he is the main character. Even when he will power haxed Diavolo he didnt believe fate stopped favouring him.
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Wait is surviving without a mind a good MM resistance feat? Since Joji has that
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Would he even need that? Unless they can either make him stop believing he is the main character, or get around the passive 5D plot and fate hax, the best that they can hope for is an inconclusive, and more likely he wins the fight anyway due to events running in his favour.
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>"Events running in his favor"Iapitus The Impaler said:
And how that is supposed to help him when he is getting rewinded?
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If events running in his favor cannot be used purely offensively, how would he win?
I mean one user in early 2018 (Vizorus69, just over a year ago) said this:
"That Beyond can only teleport Joji and his companions. It's nearly useless and only use as a plot device. The Beyond itself admit that it's just a plot device. I say it's an unknown tier."
And even another knowledgeable member on Jojo (J-Man) only challenged his point on the tier of Beyond, and not what he said about what Beyond actually does; even agreeing that Beyond isn't exactly combat applicable for Joji.
I haven't read the novel, I'm just going off of what other jojo peeps said.
If events running in his favor cannot be used purely offensively, how would he win?
I mean one user in early 2018 (Vizorus69, just over a year ago) said this:
"That Beyond can only teleport Joji and his companions. It's nearly useless and only use as a plot device. The Beyond itself admit that it's just a plot device. I say it's an unknown tier."
And even another knowledgeable member on Jojo (J-Man) only challenged his point on the tier of Beyond, and not what he said about what Beyond actually does; even agreeing that Beyond isn't exactly combat applicable for Joji.
I haven't read the novel, I'm just going off of what other jojo peeps said.
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Okay are we doing speed equal or not? I'm curious
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I think everyone is. Some are with speed equal, some aren't it's really weird.
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I think its both, so if you can have two in a sport one for speed = and one for speed =/=.
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If you ask me this should be strictly speed equal, if not 70% of the list turns into the top 5 fastest.
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A few things
Delsin Rowe should be somewhere in High 7A due to his speed
Cole MacGrath (Evil Karma) blitzes R with speed unequal
Caster Merlin is no longer 6C.
Delsin Rowe should be somewhere in High 7A due to his speed
Cole MacGrath (Evil Karma) blitzes R with speed unequal
Caster Merlin is no longer 6C.
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Tell that to passives.Ogbunabali said:
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When is Digimon going to be added to this list?
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Well hes definetly not beating Beatrice and I doubt Lavos but others can discuss that.IMadeThisOn8-1-2017 said:
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Don't know those characters, but Yhwach scales above 364.36 Yottatons and proceeded to absorb 2 other characters that were above 364.36 Yottatons.
People can discuss from there.
People can discuss from there.
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Tell that to passives.
Pretty sure that's the 30%
Pretty sure that's the 30%
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He blitzes 3 and 4 howeverJohn985 said:
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Well basically all of Beatrices abilities are like 26-D.IMadeThisOn8-1-2017 said:
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Hatou isn't Low 2-C any more and should hence be removed from that spot. I can see her taking Cain in 9-B, though. Opinions on that?
Would Noah stay Nr.3 speed equal?Edwardtruong2006 said:
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Since Manabu is no longer Low 2-C, put Lavos tied with Altair in 5th place.
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Rimuru does have a Low 2-C key. I believe he should be tied to Lavos as opposed to Altair.
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Speed Equal she should
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Don't see why speed equal makes a difference.
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How does Yhwach fair in 5-A? He's also getting more hax sometime within the week which might give him even more hax.
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His best chance is likely 3rd-5th maybe 2nd but definetly not 1st.The Prince of Counters said:
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Seems about right.
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High 7-A: Delsin Rowe @ #3 for Speed Unequal
Low 2-C: Lavos added to #5, not sure whether Rimuru Tempest (Web Novel) or Altair (Re:Creators) should be tied
Low 2-C: Lavos added to #5, not sure whether Rimuru Tempest (Web Novel) or Altair (Re:Creators) should be tied
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I say Rimuru. She's outpaced by all of them, and they possess far more hax. Speed equal doesn't help her much either.
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Which D&D Characters are in spot 5 for 9-B btw.?
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Would Beyonder (Pre-Retcon) be number 5 for high 1-B?
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The Lavos in second place for Tier 5-A scales above ~7 yottatons and 5-A Yhwach is above ~330 yottatons. Not sure on the interactions of their abilities since it's wall of text vs wall of text.
He does look solidly above Rumplestiltskin and Lord Dakkon though.
He does look solidly above Rumplestiltskin and Lord Dakkon though.
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I can make Yhwach vs Rump to decide
