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what are u trying to imply here in this comment? If he were face against a character from another verse his conceptual attacks would work, i.e his conceptual attacks would work against goku, just bcuz he doesnt have an origin doesnt mean it wouldn't work. Origin is their concept and it's what makes them who they are. even gods who are embodiment of divine providence etc. has their each of their own Origin inside of themselves.Sounds about right. The fact that he can only affect the target 'at a conceptual level' if they have an 'origin' (which resides in the soul {or is just another term to call a soul}, and not having one would make you immune to his conceptual attacks that target origin), is another limitation to his powers and spells.