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Welp, after the latest post, I can confidently say The Hunter can't beat the Vitreus Drinker. Lacks resistance to a passive incap ability, as admitted by Weekly.
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Top 10 Strongest Non-Smurfs for every tier continued (again)
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What? I never said that, i am still of the belief that the Hunter stomps the Drinker and am currently writing a response as to why that is
Please dont put words in my mouth
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You...you do know that the entire reason the Hunter is so high on this list is because he can be killed over and over again and just keep coming back with new strategies right? Dying once is not indicative that the Hunter loses a match
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The ability doesn't kill. That's the point.
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It doesnt need to
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If The Hunter rewinds, Vecna tells the creature what to do next. He effectively continuously incaps for Vecna to keep getting knowledge.
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Wouldnt work, time gets rewound
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My boi, Vecna would not be affected by that. He will retain the knowledge the creature gathered, and use it to direct it from there.
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And why is that exactly? The rewind affects beings that exist in alternate planes of reality
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Yes? My question still stands unless youre using his true form in which case that is 100% smurf if not outside help
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Already brought it up, is not considered smurf because all Vecna is doing is telling the creature what to do. Is not giving it any ability, nor boost or anything.
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Yes, that would be outside help, which isnt allowed for the same reason that prep time isnt allowed
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Asked about it being outside help too, was told it could be use still. But if others decide that's not useable, doesn't really matter. It's not my main argument to why Vitreus Drinker wins.
Passive forcefield, passive incap ability, the mentality to keep abusing its wincon. At the absolute worse, the hunter gets another incon.
Passive forcefield, passive incap ability, the mentality to keep abusing its wincon. At the absolute worse, the hunter gets another incon.
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Which the Hunter can bypass
Which wouldnt work due to rewind + range spam
Said wincon requiring concentration and thus preventing it from using a lot of its other abilities
The Hunter wins though
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The creature already can deal with the range spam, it's main ability doesn't require concentration.
Said my piece and provided the scan in the thread. The Hunter ain't winning.
Said my piece and provided the scan in the thread. The Hunter ain't winning.
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Not really? Its bread and butter abilities cap at 60 yards, the Hunter's ranged attacks have 10x that range
Am saying my piece in the thread now. The Hunter is winning. Rather easily at that.
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It can fight 4 opponents with comparable to even greater skill, that can range spam just as much if not more, with greater variety of abilities and still reign on top. It simply is a non factor to it, specially when the creature can locate The Hunter rather easily (literally his entire gimmick is to have eyes everywhere).
A single dimension door and the Hunter gets once more under its Gaze. It's a perpetual incap.
I have also looked at the Hunter's profile, still don't see the ability to bypass the forcefield.
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Nevertheless, we can make a proper thread and see what people vote on, because it's quite clear we ain't gonna convince the other.
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Cool, it would be fighting 7 here, and the Hunter would pick up on that immediately and know to kill the crows asap
Okay? So it gazes the Hunter and then gets mobbed by the other six hunters
I can make a quick CRT if you'd like
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That's well within it's ability. Reminder the entire school of conjuration magic exists.
They can't ambush, the ravens exist. Plus, it can fight just as many opponents and reign ontop.
That would be good, yeh. Still doesn't change my overall argument, tho.
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And?
They dont need to ambush, 6 hunters as strong, fast, and skilled as the Hunter all swarming the Drinker at once would kill it in seconds, especially when hitting it once would cause its Gaze to drop concentration
Your argument thus far has been debunked. As a D&D knowledgeable member, the Drinker loses here.
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If you can't see how the ability to already negate one of the Hunter's tactics its useful, I don't know what to tell you.
No, they wouldn't. D&D Adventurers exist, they cannot manage that even with summons. Also, no. The Gaze wouldn't drop, it would now affect the summons. With a single dimension door, it can reposition itself to affect all of them at once.
Nope. My argument it's just as valid (and a more likely ending to the fight imo). Also, why do you keep spamming being knowledgeable on dnd? I'm knowledgeable on it as well, lol.
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Shulk won against Sora, rearrange the spots in 2-A and 2-B accordingly
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How does it negate it exactly?
Bro, you literally posted the stat block that says the gaze is a single target ability, it can only affect one of them at a time.
Because i know both verses well enough to know the Drinker does not win here
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You know the verse so well that you don't know a gaze attack affect every target the creature sees.
Please stop spamming you're knowledgeable. You aren't.
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You know the verse so well that you forgot that sight aversion and eye concealment nulls gaze attacks
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Yes, 7-C, High 6-C, and 5-A
Best part is 8-A isnt even the haxxy key, its the weakest and least haxxed one
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Y'all deadass debating Dorks n Dumbasses right now, hold this L.
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Debating is fun, tho ayy
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Law's slapping The Hunter and that's on 55th street.
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I have, multiple times, vision concealment would still **** over the initial attempt to use the Gaze ability, which would be more than enough time to turn the drinker into a pulp before the allotted 6 seconds that a rounds lasts passes
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Akasha for 2-B.
Regen
History EE that ignores even fate hax and can erase even Law and affect concept hax.
It starts with EE right away.
They can touch NEP type 2 to overwhelm them
Inchoate World same franchise as Akasha except he is immune to akasha and has Reactive Evolution to basically everything in Sky-realm.
Regen
History EE that ignores even fate hax and can erase even Law and affect concept hax.
It starts with EE right away.
They can touch NEP type 2 to overwhelm them
Inchoate World same franchise as Akasha except he is immune to akasha and has Reactive Evolution to basically everything in Sky-realm.
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Alright sooooo WTF is going on?
Let's start talking, shall we?
First of all, references ain't hard, they're a little tedious, but hard? If you can't do the world's most basic coding(or find it hard) then you probably shouldn't be making profiles.
As for scans, yeah those can be a problem, but it's just a matter of getting of yer ass and DOING it, even if it's shitty quality like me having to whip out my phone and take pictures on my tablet cause screenshots are a pain in my ass.
Let's start talking, shall we?
First of all, references ain't hard, they're a little tedious, but hard? If you can't do the world's most basic coding(or find it hard) then you probably shouldn't be making profiles.
As for scans, yeah those can be a problem, but it's just a matter of getting of yer ass and DOING it, even if it's shitty quality like me having to whip out my phone and take pictures on my tablet cause screenshots are a pain in my ass.
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Make the thread, babe
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