The second and third calcs require a bit of discussion not much but still I'd like to hear others opinions on this, for both of these the main problem is that you for each of the feats performed you don't even actually get to see said feats being performed and the OP in the last thread makes a point of this
here, and
here
As for the third calc on the last thread
this is actually the recalc that was being pushed in the last thread and aside from that on the topic of the feat itself its possible to have blitzed the guys and been there right before they pulled the trigger that would just be him arriving before they react to his arrival pulling the trigger all the way back thus negating the need for him to have blitzed the bullets and considering the surroundings again being fairly open you'd have to assume Draken traveled at least 5m to be away from any obstructions still even on top of that assuming he came from a certain direction and which adds another layer of assumptions we just don't have..
some images for reference we see
here draken is this close to the shooter as well as takemichi in the scene after the feat happens but using 1m starting distance as the recalc and og calc suggest is just far too tame actually as you can see from
these shots the environment around the is pretty open so assuming draken suddenly just started running at them from 1m away just doesn't work and actually tanks the results. This can be calculated as either draken blitzing the bullets or the guys from several meters away the problem lies that going with the assumption he got there after the first shot was fired but before it hit Takemichi from that distance is that it'd be breaching well into hypersonic that it'd be outlier territory depending on Therefir's calc, so I'd like to hear more opinions about that one.
also headed to work so can't respond after this for a while
I think I might help with the context here.
About Draken's feat I think I might have a solution for the distance, so there are two ways to calculate this:
1) Since Takemichi and the gangster were looking at each other before the shots it's more likely Draken was at least out from their POV
2) when we see Draken for the
first time he is between Take and the gangster and if you think about it the only direction he could have come from to be there is from behind Take, if Draken was coming from behind the gangster or from a side there was no reason for him to go between and suicide while he could have just run on the gangster and send him fly away with a punch so since Draken was in the middle it means Draken was most likely coming from somewhere behind Take and just couldn't reach the guy in time before the shooting which gives us
two valid option for a starting point and considering the context I believe those two aree our best options.
I also want to add that I think it's impossible he started after the first bullet and here why:
- So the main reason you would say he started after the bullet is because we have
this panel which represents Draken coming in and it's presented after
the shooting so if we follow the order of the panles we have this scene:
The gangster screams "die Hanagaki" > He shoots 3 times >
Takemichi closes his eye > Draken comes in > Draken disarms the gangster but there is a problem with this because if we strictly follow the panel's order we have that Takemichi closed his eye after 3 shoots which is unrealistic because in the time you hear the sound of the bullet the bullet already reached his destination since bullets are faster than speed of sound therefore it's impossible that Takemichi could close his eyes after the sound of the third bullet, with all this said my point is that following the order of the panels is not an option here and therefore all the panels happen at the same time so we have this: the guy screams "Die Hanagaki!" while Takemichi closes his eye while Draken comes in, this is how I would put the scene and so we should only calc it as a blitz by using one of the two starting point I mentioned earlier and using 0,2 s or 0,13 s as reaction time since this guy is an complete random.
And about Izana's feat I will basically use the same reasoning because if we strictly follow the panels' order we have
Izana coming in after the sound of the first-second bullet and it's impossible as I explained before, so the panel where Kisaki shoots and the panel where Izana arrives are happening in the same time also because the sounds are shared between them which indicates they are happening simultaneously. Also we have something which indicates when Izana started but it's better to explain the context so
Izana's body moved in order to save Kakucho instinctively so he didn't think about it and the most reasonable time for him to start to run is
this one since Kisaki said "Die!" while pointing a gun at Kakucho and the panel after that is the one where Izana comes in so if we have to read the context this way we have this: Kakucho starts running to Kisaki while screaming > Kisaki says "die! > Izana realizes Kakucho is going to die and he starts running > Izana pushes away Kakucho while Kisaki shoots, for the starting position we can use
this panel but we have to subtract
this distance since Izana only reached kakucho and not Kisaki, as reaction speed we can be more generous with Kisaki but I have to say he isn't presented as a great fighter and only could have a fight with Takemichi when he wasn't even mid tier in the verse so 0,13 s - 0,1 s it's what I would use here.
I hope I made it clear
