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Thriller Bark Revision

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https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:KobsterHope07/Gecko_Moria_deserves_some_respect

So anybody who fought him would be 1.273 Megatons. And that person is Gear Second Luffy, who in his Gear Two state was able to harm him with his attacks. So those who can harm him or tank his attacks would be Low 7-B like Smoker, Magellan etc...

The Pacifista would also scale since they could withstand Gear Two Luffy attacks and could fight him, so they would be Low 7-B as well. So those who can harm them or are stated to be comparable or stronger than them would be Low 7-B like Boa Hancock, Bartholomew Kuma (though he scale to a higher feat), etc...

Base Moria is stated on his profile for being able to tank several punches from Nightmare Luffy and stuff so while his AP would High 7-C for being able to harm Luffy and Sanji with his Doppleman, his durability would be Low 7-B I guess.

Zoro w/ Asura and Sanji w/ Diable Jambe was able to each harm the Pacifista so they scale with those technique to Low 7-B. Oars was able to matched Sanji's Diable Jambe so he would be Low 7-B

And since Asura is a 3x amp from Zoro's Base Strength, we can say that he is 424.33 KT in Thriller Bark normally. And anybody who scales to Base Thriller Bark Zoro is High 7-C as well. This would include the other Monster Trio, Base Luffy and Sanji. And would go on to affect those who fought and harm them like Moria, Zombie Ryuma, Absalom, the Boa sisters, etc...

Nico Robin should be a "At least High 7-C, possibly Low 7-B" since she was fully capable of snapping Moria's neck if he hadn't swap place and could restrain Oars without feeling any stress on her arm.

For Brook, he could be a Likely High 7-C (424.33) since he was able to compete evenly against Ryuma though he was the weaker of the two and was protecting his Afro during the fight.

Franky should also be Likely High 7-C (424.33) as well since Franky was doing a better job against the Pacifista, able to send him flying with a Coup de Vent and knock away the hand with the laser. Brook couldn't make a dent the Pacifista with his sword. Chopper should share the rating with them since he was shown comparable to Franky when they attack Oars together.

Usopp and Nami… they can remain the same I supposed at 7-C unless they scale to the Chopper and Franky in a way.

This is kinda separate from the Moria feat but Ivankov, I realized, should be scaling directly to Kuma, because with a single kick he was able to send Kuma flying with a direct kick without any strain to his legs (check Chapter 560) and we know from Sanji that if you're not strong enough, you will just break your foot on them and not even budge them. So he should be Low 7-B (1.744)

So in conclusion;

  • Low 7-B (1.744 Megatons) = Ivankov
  • Low 7-B (1.273) = Asgard Moria, Gear Two and Three Luffy, Nightmare Luffy, Pacifista, Asura Zoro, Diable Jambe Sanji, Oars, Boa Hancock, Smoker, Shiryu (though he should be much higher due to being a Yonkou Commander)
  • Low 7-B (1.273) in only Durability = Magellan, Moria
  • At least High 7-C, possibly Low 7-B (1.273 Kilotons) = Nico Robin
  • High 7-C (424.33 Kilotons) = Base Thriller Bark Zoro, Base Luffy, Base Sanji, Ryuma, Base Moria, Absalom, The Boa Sisters (Zoan Forms)
  • Likely High 7-C (424.33) = Brooks, Franky and Chopper
Is this okay? Any complaints? Anything missing and/or suggestions? Let the discussion begin while I takes this time to now take a nap
 
So has somebody asked him to give input here anyway?
 
Thing is this version of Moria was specifically stated to be stronger than Oars. https://prnt.sc/r7uzr3

Moria was in a very unstable form and Luffy beat him by making him spit out shadows.

https://prnt.sc/r7vbw6

https://prnt.sc/r7van0

Luffy himself pretty much implied his rubber body was the reason he was tanking Moria's punches.

https://prnt.sc/r7v0nm

I'm iffy on most of the characters scaling anyway to this form other than Nightmare Luffy. Fully agree with Ivankov though.
 
Tetsucabrah said:
Thing is this version of Moria was specifically stated to be stronger than Oars. https://prnt.sc/r7uzr3

Moria was in a very unstable form and Luffy beat him by making him spit out shadows.

https://prnt.sc/r7vbw6

https://prnt.sc/r7van0

Luffy himself pretty much implied his rubber body was the reason he was tanking Moria's punches.

https://prnt.sc/r7v0nm

I'm iffy on most of the characters scaling anyway to this form other than Nightmare Luffy. Fully agree with Ivankov though.
Bump?
 
Hmmm, Asgard Moria has shown able to withstand his own punch without hurting himself so his durability scale to his AP and G2 Luffy harm him badly enough that he nearly lost consciousness from the first blow, and thus his control over his power is slipping away alongside his consciousness, not because he is unstable. G2 Luffy definitely scales to Moria
 
Nightmare Luffy tossing Oars all over the Island didn't do that king of damage and you're trying to tell me that Gears Luffy can replicate that feat?
 
The changes have been made and although yes Luffy attacking did free the shadows it still harmed Moriah and as such scales.
 
It's not impossible for Luffy being stronger with G2 than as Nightmare Luffy. The latter stomped Oars but never got into any Gear state, meaning that's base Nightmare Luffy.

Base Monster Trio characters can keep up with Oars and perform a good amount of damage (nullified because he's a zombie, tho). Luffy being that above with G2 isn't out of the question as we can see he can, in fact, attack and affect Shadow Asgard Moriah, who turned out to be stronger than Oars by an unknown amount.

Problem is you're considering Nightmare Luffy above anything else, but if he was that far above Oars he would have destroyed him without relying on the final fight where everybody helped beating him.

Moriah was unstable, but in order to take the shadows away from him Luffy needed to attack him until he actually spill them. Luffy successfully damaged him, making him lose even more the control over them. In fact, the shadows don't start escaping until Luffy actually attacks, where Moriah starts losing consciousness. The strain comes from the fact that Moriah is struggling to not lose consciousness. If he does, he loses the shadows.

On top of that, if Gear 2nd were to be below Nightmare Luffy, by any extent possible, neither Gear 2nd nor Stacking would deal any damage to Moriah, as they would be less than 10x weaker (for the amount of shadows SA Moriah and Nightmare Luffy had in [in no way this mean they are exactly that far from each other, it's an illustration of how it'd be]).

Oars was a problem because he couldn't be put down under normal circunstances, but most of the SH were able to damage him regardless of said power difference.

In conclusion, the scaling is valid.
 
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