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Here is the thing, unlike hakai which has multiple statement of existence erasure(like it's outright stated it erases souls from existence), Moria only has one and on the other hand he has multiple statements of disintegration which lines up more with his it works.
Yet it has showings against it so...Here is the thing, unlike hakai which has multiple statement of existence erasure, Moria only has one and on the other hand he has multiple statements of disintegration which lines up more with his it works.
Yes but unlike moria's ability it isn't just a one off statment, which is contradicted by other characters. Hakai is treated as existence erasure always in dbs despite it's showing, and is explained to work as such both physically and on soul meanwhile multiple characters refer to Moria's ability as disintegration which matches with it's showing.Yet it has showings against it so...
I wasn't aware that the profile had it, which was my assumption with that comment.It's also derailing the thread to go into that atm since that's what's accepted currently. Contesting Existence Erasure is better kept for its own thread
No, I'm pretty sure not everyone agrees with that.Does everyone agrees that Moria receives resistance to deconstruction/EE for existing in sunlight without a shadow?
There, fixed.I don't believe it, they are wrong because they don't show any logical evidence for what they think IN MY OPINION.
If an one off hyperbolic statement from Robin (no it wasn't an explanation it was just a one off statement) which has been contradicted multiple times (both visually and statements) is enough for it to be existence erasure, and no some guide book calling to making people vanish doesn't equate to existence erasure.Common and isolated resurrection does not rebuild disintegrated bodies.
There’s a world out there where yall listened to deceived
There’s a world out there where yall listened to deceived and I and stopped derailing about EE. That world is not this one
Resistance to Existance Erasure (Able to exist in the sunlight even though his shadow is not connected to his body).
Limited Regeneration (High-Mid. By altering his shadow, Moria is capable of manipulating his physical form through inherent body-shadow interaction law. Shadows are able to even regenerate a body that is succumbing to being completely erased).
KT voted to agreeIs there a tally on the votes for those so far? I believe I've voted disagree on both of them.
What's your reasoning for disagreeing with resistance to EE?Is there a tally on the votes for those so far? I believe I've voted disagree on both of them.
Yeah, that's why I'm asking Damage again why he disagrees with resistance to EE, as it's pretty blatant due to him existing in the sun without a shadow (with that being accepted as EE).Most of the disagreeals are based on disagreeing to it being EE, which was reverted since it's accepted as EE
The reason why I'm disagreeing currently is because Moria's shadow isn't severed from him in the way that all the victims of the sun's existence erasure is; his shadow can come and go freely and it can alter shape without affecting Moria himself.Yeah, that's why I'm asking Damage again why he disagrees with resistance to EE, as it's pretty blatant due to him existing in the sun without a shadow (with that being accepted as EE).
Their bodies weren't completely erased.Why not High? Mid-High probably wouldn't allow you to regenerate from the body being erased.
Ah so we're going with regen from partial erasure? Makes sense.Their bodies weren't completely erased.
I explained these two things above. The movement of the body and the shadow are only the same if both are connected, that is, if the body reflects the shadow. When the shadow leaves the body, the only existing connection is the spiritual/vital one, but the shaping law no longer applies. That's why Moria takes Luffy's shadow in his hand, makes a pact with it while it performs various movements without necessarily Luffy's body also making those same movements.The reason why I'm disagreeing currently is because Moria's shadow isn't severed from him in the way that all the victims of the sun's existence erasure is; his shadow can come and go freely and it can alter shape without affecting Moria himself.
.(not that my opinion matters that much)
This is said in the verseNatural law of the verse is a bit ehh,
Basic assumption is that he'd get a resistance to it due to his fruitFor one, do we even know if he suffers the same consequences for removing his shadow that his opponents do?
Both.Also, do we know if what happened to the SHs was regen or some kind of limited form of resurrection since their bodies hadn't ceased to exist yet?
They say it's a natural lawNot to mention, this being some fundamental law of the verse that if you lose your shadow you die is a bit shaky, since effect-based paramecia fruits, in general, have shown that they can operate by their own set of rules(like how Sugar can make everyone lose their memories of you when she turns you into a toy, that doesn't mean it's now verse wide natural law that forcibly transforming a character in One Piece will make everyone lose their memories of them, its just a rule imposed by that specific ability.)