This number 9 large will rickroll any filthy, simping Uchiha in sight, Harambe will revive and take his rightful place above these inferior creatures

[MinatoSparkle]

Sparkle should be sued for dragging this thread to 3 pages

I made a promise to do it

 

[LordTracer]

I never really liked Naruto.

Then what possessed you to come into this thread and start derailing-

I’m deleting all of the derailing comments.

 

[KingTempest]

The average Naruto arc is better than the average One Piece arc

This is cap but yeah enough with the derailing

Is there a conclusion yet?

 

[DaMonkeMan]

Then what possessed you to come into this thread and start derailing-

I’m deleting all of the derailing comments.

Okay.

 

[MinatoSparkle]

This is cap but yeah enough with the derailing

Is there a conclusion yet?

Seems to be that Minato being praised as the best shinobi is fine

 

[Damage3245]

I can't believe there's been this much derailing on the CRT while I was away.

@TheMonkeMan You're the one who started it. Do not do it again.



Anyway, KingTempest is right regarding the point on Might Guy and the 6-Tails.

 

[DaMonkeMan]

There was literally 0 reason to ping me when Tracer already deleted all the comments and warned me.
Jeez louise.

 

[Damage3245]

I'm just letting you know not to do it again, as an official warning.

 

[Shadowbokunohero]

̶I̶f̶ ̶m̶i̶n̶a̶t̶o̶ ̶h̶a̶s̶ ̶s̶o̶ ̶m̶a̶n̶y̶ ̶g̶a̶s̶ ̶s̶t̶a̶t̶e̶m̶e̶n̶t̶s̶ ̶a̶n̶d̶ ̶s̶o̶ ̶m̶a̶n̶y̶ ̶a̶s̶s̶ ̶f̶e̶a̶t̶s̶.̶
̶w̶h̶a̶t̶ ̶i̶f̶ ̶h̶i̶s̶ ̶j̶u̶s̶t̶ ̶o̶v̶e̶r̶r̶a̶t̶e̶d̶ ̶a̶n̶d̶ ̶h̶i̶s̶ ̶l̶e̶g̶a̶c̶y̶ ̶a̶s̶ ̶t̶h̶e̶ ̶p̶e̶r̶s̶o̶n̶ ̶w̶h̶o̶ ̶p̶r̶o̶t̶e̶c̶t̶e̶d̶ ̶t̶h̶e̶ ̶h̶i̶d̶d̶e̶n̶ ̶l̶e̶a̶f̶ ̶o̶v̶e̶r̶s̶h̶a̶d̶o̶w̶s̶ ̶h̶i̶s̶ ̶t̶r̶u̶e̶ ̶c̶a̶p̶a̶b̶i̶l̶i̶t̶i̶e̶s̶ ̶w̶h̶i̶c̶h̶ ̶a̶r̶e̶ ̶e̶n̶c̶o̶u̶r̶a̶g̶e̶ ̶t̶h̶r̶o̶u̶g̶h̶ ̶N̶e̶p̶o̶t̶i̶s̶m̶,̶ ̶b̶e̶c̶a̶u̶s̶e̶ ̶m̶o̶s̶t̶ ̶o̶f̶ ̶t̶h̶e̶ ̶p̶e̶o̶p̶l̶e̶ ̶t̶h̶a̶t̶ ̶g̶a̶s̶ ̶h̶i̶m̶ ̶u̶p̶ ̶a̶r̶e̶ ̶h̶i̶s̶ ̶t̶e̶a̶c̶h̶e̶r̶s̶,̶s̶t̶u̶d̶e̶n̶t̶s̶ ̶a̶n̶d̶ ̶f̶r̶i̶e̶n̶d̶s̶,̶ ̶a̶n̶d̶ ̶e̶v̶e̶r̶y̶o̶n̶e̶ ̶s̶i̶g̶n̶i̶f̶i̶c̶a̶n̶t̶l̶y̶ ̶w̶e̶a̶k̶e̶r̶ ̶t̶h̶a̶n̶ ̶h̶i̶m̶ ̶w̶o̶u̶l̶d̶ ̶b̶e̶l̶i̶e̶v̶e̶ ̶t̶h̶e̶ ̶s̶a̶m̶e̶ ̶t̶h̶i̶n̶g̶ ̶b̶e̶c̶a̶u̶s̶e̶ ̶t̶h̶e̶ ̶t̶h̶e̶ ̶l̶e̶g̶e̶n̶d̶ ̶a̶d̶d̶s̶ ̶t̶o̶ ̶t̶h̶e̶ ̶m̶y̶t̶h̶

I think maybe we can use the anime for clarification but atm I do somewhat agree with Tempest that it doesnt look like Guy knocked out acid boi

EDIT: the anime doesnt have him knock out Saiken either

 

[Godernet]

This is cap

It’s not tho

but yeah enough with the derailing

Is there a conclusion yet?

Slayer already went though Sparkles points. And everything in regard to SM RS scaling was sorted out.

I think Slayer wanted to respond to your point about the Six Tails and Guy when he wakes up. You’re probably right tho tbh

After that it’s just a matter of updating some values in the sandbox and we’re good to go.

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

So, uhhh.... Are we gonna give Kakashi a 'Higher with the First Gate' rating?

 

[ssgengar]

So, uhhh.... Are we gonna give Kakashi a 'Higher with the First Gate' rating?

This was talked about before, imo I’d rather not clog his profile with a form that he pretty much never uses

 

[LordTracer]

So, uhhh.... Are we gonna give Kakashi a 'Higher with the First Gate' rating?

Why- that has nothing to do with this thread-

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

Why- that has nothing to do with this thread-

I felt like if I didn't mention it then it would never ever be brought back up.

 

[LordTracer]

I felt like if I didn't mention it then it would never ever be brought back up.

There’s a whole Naruto discussion thread

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

There’s a whole Naruto discussion thread

Gonna be honest, I forgot those exist sometimes.

 

[Wrath_Of_Itachi]

mrk moment

 

[Padaruyos]

I still don't know what an mrk is.

 

[Damage3245]

So, uhhh.... Are we gonna give Kakashi a 'Higher with the First Gate' rating?

It's never applied by him in combat, so I would vote against including it in his stats sections.

 

[Deceived3596]

You'll never know what it means, mrk.

 

[UchihaSlayer96]

No sir, he's not upright because he was breathing out all of the gas, and he leaned over as he did so.
When he was done breathing out the gas, he stood upright again (see bottom right).
When he went to the position we see before, we can see more gas being released.

Honestly, KT, you a lucky man. I had written a big ass paragraph nitpicking the shit outta your argument when I was "not at full mental capacity", but I woke up and watched the anime version just to make sure I wasn't tripping, and it seems you were correct.
I still believe that Guy fought and held off Saiken, but it's whatever. It doesn't change his rating, and just isn't worth extending this thread over, so I'll just remove it.


Anyway, I've skimmed over the Minato convo ya'll had, and I'm still really not sure I agree with adding these hype statements to his justifications.
I just don't see what it adds. His ENTIRE JUSTIFICATION IS ALREADY 100% COMPRISED OF HYPE STATEMENTS....
Like, deadass. The difference is that the ones we're using have one, clear-cut interpretation and result in conclusive scaling to known characters.
I'd be more open to this idea if I didn't know that all it'd achieve is leave the door open for future Minato wank. If some unrelated character gets an AP upgrade for whatever reason, but that mf happened to be alive during the time any of these statements were made, then obviously Minato had to be physically stronger than said person's strongest Jutsu because Jiraiya called him the best Shinobi.
Let's not even bring up how they'll be used in VS threads
Like ya'll already pointed out, as I have repeatedly, most of these statements can easily have multiple interpretations other than raw stats. The strongest of them are the Ay ones, and we literally already included them in his justification.
Now ya'll know my opinion, but I'm honestly done with this blonde fool. I don't agree to the additions, but I won't hold the thread hostage over it either. Ya'll can add it to his sandbox if you feel it's necessary, just don't forget to add references to them.

 

[Stryker861]

Slayer Was "in a daze" confirmed?

 

[MinatoSparkle]

I'd be more open to this idea if I didn't know that all it'd achieve is leave the door open for future Minato wank. If some unrelated character gets an AP upgrade for whatever reason, but that mf happened to be alive during the time any of these statements were made, then obviously Minato had to be physically stronger than said person's strongest Jutsu because Jiraiya called him the best Shinobi.

I didn't try to scale Minato to CT or Bijuudamas did I

 

[Damage3245]

I just don't what it adds. His ENTIRE JUSTIFICATION IS ALREADY 100% COMPRISED OF HYPE STATEMENTS....

If his entire justification is based off of hype and no feats, maybe he should get a "Likely" for his rating?

 

[UchihaSlayer96]

I didn't try to scale Minato to CT or Bijuudamas did I

Oh, yea, no you're right. I ought to be grateful

 

[UchihaSlayer96]

If his entire justification is based off of hype and no feats, maybe he should get a "Likely" for his rating?

If not including his more vague statements is this controversial, how well do you think nerfing his more solid statements will go over? I'm not going through that shit again

 

[Arc7Kuroi]

If the statements sparkle dropped are going in the justification, sparkle absolutely should not write the justification for it, I don't trust the man to not be overly generous in his verbage with Minato. So what are we doing with 6th Gate Guy? Removing his scaling?

 

[UchihaSlayer96]

So what are we doing with 6th Gate Guy? Removing his scaling?

No lol, just his "higher with Asakujaku" which scaled him directly to Saiken. He still scales to the V2 Jinchūriki.

 

[Arc7Kuroi]

No lol, just his "higher with Asakujaku" which scaled him directly to Saiken. He still scales to the V2 Jinchūriki.

Yeah that's what I meant, removing the direct scaling to Saiken

 

[MinatoSparkle]

If the statements sparkle dropped are going in the justification, sparkle absolutely should not write the justification for it, I don't trust the man to not be overly generous in his verbage with Minato. So what are we doing with 6th Gate Guy? Removing his scaling?

I fool around a lot but I wouldn't actually go against what's been accepted when changing the official profile

 

[KingTempest]

Honestly, KT, you a lucky man. I had written a big ass paragraph nitpicking the shit outta your argument when I was "not at full mental capacity", but I woke up and watched the anime version just to make sure I wasn't tripping, and it seems you were correct.
I still believe that Guy fought and held off Saiken, but it's whatever. It doesn't change his rating, and just isn't worth extending this thread over, so I'll just remove it.

I’m in the car laughing my ass off

 

[MinatoSparkle]

How is this. "Based on many people's opinions, Minato was likely the greatest shinobi in recent history, and the databook supports the notion that he was a better ninja than anyone alive."

Alternatively, since the bit about the DB statement sounds a bit clunky, maybe, "Many statements suggest that Minato was the greatest shinobi in recent history."

 

[LordTracer]

There’s literally no point in adding that, as Slayer already said.

 

[MinatoSparkle]

He also said it's whatever, and Arc seemed fine with it as long as the wording doesn't limit the statements to only be referencing AP. And I don't even agree that there's no point cause Minato has very little in the justification for being significantly above Sannin tier atm.

 

[OneBleachHurricane]

And I don't even agree that there's no point cause Minato has very little in the justification for being significantly above Sannin tier atm.

Oooh Mister Minatooo You Taste Sooo Gooood!

 

[MinatoSparkle]

It's losing its punch rapidly

 

[Arc7Kuroi]

and Arc seemed fine with it as long as the wording doesn't limit the statements to only be referencing AP

I'm not a thread mod, so me being fine with it doesn't count for like actually applying it

 

[MinatoSparkle]

Oh I would've thought it does since you were a significant part of this CRT's creation

 

[Arc7Kuroi]

Oh I would've thought it does since you were a significant part of this CRT's creation

I mean some people value my opinion like those goobers but that doesn't mean I have that jurisdiction. Since only thread mods can approve changes that affect profiles. I'm still fine putting the statements on the profile with phrasing that acknowledges these are broad/generalized statements. But if thread mods say no, I can't do anything about that.

 

[UchihaSlayer96]

Minato has very little in the justification for being significantly above Sannin tier atm.

Bruv, seriously, what the hell are you even on about?

Heavily implied to be stronger than old Hiruzen

Stronger than Old Hiruzen, who's low-end relative to the Sannin.

, and to be capable of defeating Orochimaru.[1]

Stronger than an actual Sannin.

He is stronger than a younger Hiruzen, as he defeated him in a fight when he was a Jonin[2].

Stronger than the Hiruzen who Orochimaru asserted could beat him.

This is supported by the fact that the strongest shinobi in the village is usually selected to be Hokage, which is further supported by Hiruzen and the rest of the Shinobi battling Nine-Tails waiting for his arrival and support.[3]

More support for being > Hiruzen.

A considers him a rival, if not a superior, and has stated that they fought many times[4]. It was also stated that after crossing blades many times, Minato and the AB team's military forces became mutually recognized[5]

At least on par with A, who scales above the Sannin.


Like how is that not enough you silly goober? Minato doesn't need 5 billion statements that say the same thing. Clogging his profile with very inconsequential statements does nothing but add fluff and make it big for no real reason. Like, these super direct statements aren't gonna get the idea across, but the vague hype flavor text will be the nail in the coffin? Seriously?