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Koji's so skilled Daniel can't touch him. His immensely good ANPR also helps with this.What were your points?
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Koji's so skilled Daniel can't touch him. His immensely good ANPR also helps with this.What were your points?
HereSo this is how I believe the fight goes:
Based on their fighting styles Daniel will start on the offensive, UI is considered a Berserk Mode and he always goes on the offensive, Ayanokouji on the other side will start more on the defensive, he does it even against weaker characters, just see how Ayanokouji fought Ryueen's gang; so basically Ayanokouji sees a Daniel dashing at him, if the hit lands then it's gg for Ayanokouji, tho Ayano has many many options here. Ayanokouji can use his AnPr, skill and experience advantage to fight accordingly; Daniel, while on the offensive, will leave openings, once you are in the motion of attacking you can't dodge, it's a basic concept of martial arts (something like this), while Daniel's learning ability would technically reach a EG rating (imo) his overall BIQ isn't that impressive as when he fights in UI is just keep attacking while copying others' technique so he always put himself in dangerous situations where he leaves openings while being in big motion attacks. I have to admit being in UI improves your reaction timing but it's useless when you are in a position where you can't dodge by default. Anyway I don't see why, given their fighting styles, Ayanokouji can't just PP him. Even if you assume that Daniel will endure it and eventually copy it now we would have a Daniel who reduced his stats to match koji's ones removing his One Shot advantage, he will still keep his offensive way to fight so Ayanokouji can just play around with his openings and PP him and now even if Daniel lands hits Ayano won't get one shotted unless Daniel uses Ayano's PP and Ayano will see pretty fast that he is copying him and will use the situation at his own advantage. We also have to remember that Ayanokouji has stamina advantage here in case the fight gets extended for any reason.
I vote for Koji.
I mean, Daniel is pretty skilled in his own right. We've seen through his fight with Little Daniel that he'd simply grab the opponent the moment they attack, but if Koji's ANPR is that good, then he'd just see himself getting blitzed and killed in every single outcome, leading this to being inconclusive.Koji's so skilled Daniel can't touch him. His immensely good ANPR also helps with this.
The issue is that Koji has no way to hurt Daniel, even with his knife. it would literally be like a toddler punching a brick wall. There is a difference of about 70 THOUSAND times between them. Either Koji tries to hurt Daniel and Daniel somehow can't land a single hit so it's incon or Daniel is able to land a single hit with his blitz advantage and wins. I personally believe Daniel is more likely to land 1 hit than neither of them being able to hurt the other.Here
Yeah, if the durability doesn't change with his AP then it's a stomp for Daniel. I get Koji has a knife but its a ******* 68,644.2191x AP diffrence. I stg, you could throw a toddler with a knife against MCU Spider-Man and someone on this wiki would say that the toddler would stand a chance due to piercing damage. People really overestimate piercing damage on this site. It doesn't matter if what you're holding is pointy, you physically could not generage enough force to pierce even the weakest spots on someones body if they were that much stronger than youLittle Daniel tried to do the same exact thing to his UI Body, and it did nothing. Why? Because UI Daniel had far greater durability (which doesn't vary) and had techniques to avoid getting hurt in detrimental ways. To Koji, there are no "weak points" on Daniel's body. Why? Because he has over 68644.2191x greater durability than Koji's peak AP. Koji has no durability negation on his page, so there's no way he's going to be able to harm Daniel in any way before he gets grabbed and blitzed. Koji having a knife wouldn't help either as Daniel has shown to be able to tank slashing attacks with tens of thousands of greater AP than Koji can dish out.
I'm obviously voting Daniel for having far superior speed, AP, durability, adaptability, copying skills, techniques, and experience.
Koji has way better stamina too so Daniel is never gonna gas Koji out if you thought of that as a possibility.The issue is that Koji has no way to hurt Daniel, even with his knife. it would literally be like a toddler punching a brick wall. There is a difference of about 70 THOUSAND times between them. Either Koji tries to hurt Daniel and Daniel somehow can't land a single hit so it's incon or Daniel is able to land a single hit with his blitz advantage and wins. I personally believe Daniel is more likely to land 1 hit than neither of them being able to hurt the other.
But ANPR thoYeah, if the durability doesn't change with his AP then it's a stomp for Daniel. I get Koji has a knife but its a ******* 68,644.2191x AP diffrence. I stg, you could throw a toddler with a knife against MCU Spider-Man and someone on this wiki would say that the toddler would stand a chance due to piercing damage. People really overestimate piercing damage on this site. It doesn't matter if what you're holding is pointy, you physically could not generage enough force to pierce even the weakest spots on someones body if they were that much stronger than you
If you look at the PP link I sent you can see Ayano has Limited Durab Neg thanks to a PP. His PP even helped him damage characters' he couldn't damage normally.The issue is that Koji has no way to hurt Daniel, even with his knife. it would literally be like a toddler punching a brick wall. There is a difference of about 70 THOUSAND times between them. Either Koji tries to hurt Daniel and Daniel somehow can't land a single hit so it's incon or Daniel is able to land a single hit with his blitz advantage and wins. I personally believe Daniel is more likely to land 1 hit than neither of them being able to hurt the other.
I mean sure, but it's not like Daniel has bad stamina either. He has the "perfect" body with "perfect" experiences and mastery of abilities, so I doubt he'd ever bring himself to a point of exhaustion.Koji has way better stamina too so Daniel is never gonna gas Koji out if you thought of that as a possibility.
Pressure Points have limits. You'd sound ridiculous to say that a 9-B character could harm a 6-C character with just pressure points, and the same applies here. The difference between the force that Koji would be striking with and the sheer durability that Daniel has is way to large. It would be like expecting the effects of a deep tissue massage from a feather dropping on your back.His PP even helped him damage characters' he couldn't damage normally.
Yes and no, It depends on the PP, some PPs are able to damage your internal organs (throat and chin for example) while others outright hit places with below human durability by default (eyes and balls).Pressure Points have limits. You'd sound ridiculous to say that a 9-B character could harm a 6-C character with just pressure points, and the same applies here. The difference between the force that Koji would be striking with and the sheer durability that Daniel has is way to large. It would be like expecting the effects of a deep tissue massage from a feather dropping on your back.
The Accelerated Development you are claiming here isn't on the profile, so you can't even bring it up.I'd also like to mention that Koji's ANPR isn't infallible. It's shown that opponents can overwhelm him and outright overpower him if he's unable to determine their upper limit. That's like the entire point of UI. Daniel would immediately continue to get better and better and better to the point to where Koji wouldn't know how high he can keep going. The moment he gets touched is the moment the fight ends.
Which wouldn't damage Daniel for obvious reasons.Yes and no, It depends on the PP, some PPs are able to damage your internal organs (throat and chin for example)
UI Daniel has the perfect experiences, knowing how to fight and counter against every martial art style he himself knows as shown with his fight against Little UI Daniel, meaning he knows how to counter attacks like that via CQC and Systema.while others outright hit places with below human durability by default (eyes and balls).
It is.The Accelerated Development you are claiming here isn't on the profile, so you can't even bring it up.
Great reasoning. Hold on, I'm making a Koji vs Homelander matchup. After all, Homelander has eyes and balls, and if I give Koji a knife he'll have piercing damage. I'm sure Koji's got this. So what if Homelander could tank the MOAB 4 times over and be fine? He has balls, so he's doomedYes and no, It depends on the PP, some PPs are able to damage your internal organs (throat and chin for example) while others outright hit places with below human durability by default (eyes and balls).
This is very wrong and being taken out of context. Ayanokouji can do the predictions in two ways, the very first being the analyzing of the upper limit (in which he just shows himself become unbeatable), and the second one is intuition.I'd also like to mention that Koji's ANPR isn't infallible. It's shown that opponents can overwhelm him and outright overpower him if he's unable to determine their upper limit. That's like the entire point of UI. Daniel would immediately continue to get better and better and better to the point to where Koji wouldn't know how high he can keep going. The moment he gets touched is the moment the fight ends.
Throat is listed as outright Limited Durab Neg.Which wouldn't damage Daniel for obvious reasons.
I even agreed Daniel has reaction advantage here but it doesn't change how their fighting styles wont allow this to happen, he might be able to counter them but it's useless when Ayanokouji attacks him when he cant counter at all.UI Daniel has the perfect experiences, knowing how to fight and counter against every martial art style he himself knows as shown with his fight against Little UI Daniel, meaning he knows how to counter attacks like that via CQC and Systema.
Can you show me where? All I saw it's AD due to copying skills.It is.
Yes, you Need a minimum of AP in order to hit a PP but it doesn't depend on the opponent's durability.A fly slamming into you at full speed wouldn't hurt your testicals and might iritate your eyes a bit but that's about it. That unironically might not be as big of a diffrence in AP as Koji & Daniel
The concept of Pressure Points doesn't apply to characters who actually have high amounts of endurance, just to mention. Like if a character got their pressure points sliced or attacked there many times and were still fighting, it's obvious that they don't feel pain at those spots.Great reasoning. Hold on, I'm making a Koji vs Homelander matchup. After all, Homelander has eyes and balls, and if I give Koji a knife he'll have piercing damage. I'm sure Koji's got this. So what if Homelander could tank the MOAB 4 times over and be fine? He has balls, so he's doomed
A fly slamming into you at full speed wouldn't hurt your testicals and might iritate your eyes a bit but that's about it. That unironically might not be as big of a diffrence in AP as Koji & Daniel
Anyways, I've got to go, I'm about to watch a 10 year old martial artist who knows to punch someone in the throat go against Prime Mike Tyson, I'll tell you if the 10 year old hurts him or not once I get back
CountedI'm the same as the previous thread. koji just chilling
Gun statement contradicts thisWait this is so bullshit. UI doesn't lower Daniel's AP as equal to his opponent. UI just makes it so that Daniel won't use his full strength unless he needs to.
Because they were less skilled than him?Literally every time he's used UI, he's not only skillstomped his opponents,
He never oneshotted anyonebut also AP and Speed stomped them right from the beginning of the fight, sometimes even one-shotting or two-shotting his opponents.
Seems like the one who is spreading misinformation is you and omitting information too, That's foulSo no, Daniel doesn't have equal AP to Koji, he's still able to oneshot him, as he did to Jay. Can't believe we're just casually spreading misinformation.
Pressure points negate this disadvantage, More over, He has a knifeLittle Daniel tried to do the same exact thing to his UI Body, and it did nothing. Why? Because UI Daniel had far greater durability (which doesn't vary) and had techniques to avoid getting hurt in detrimental ways. To Koji, there are no "weak points" on Daniel's body. Why? Because he has over 68644.2191x greater durability than Koji's peak AP.
He does, If you legit look at his profile and go to the "White Room training" page you will see itKoji has no durability negation on his page,
Speed equalized so irrelevantso there's no way he's going to be able to harm Daniel in any way before he gets grabbed and blitzed.
I don't think i need to tell you the difference between a hand and a knife?Koji having a knife wouldn't help either as Daniel has shown to be able to tank slashing attacks with tens of thousands of greater AP than Koji can dish out.
EqualizedI'm obviously voting Daniel for having far superior speed, AP,
Koji has better adaptabilityadaptability
Irrelevant when you cannot hit your opponentcopying skills
He does not come close to Koji in experience lolexperience.
I didn't do that considering the scan outright states that he gets weakerSomeone remove the votes for Koji lmao. They were voted based on misinformation given by @XxZetsuxX in the OP
Yeah no, Showing bias when a character you like starts losing?Yeah, unfollowing this and getting it removed in the verse match removal thread whenever grace finished. This is a bit ridiculous.
It doesn't work like that lolYeah, if the durability doesn't change with his AP then it's a stomp for Daniel. I get Koji has a knife but its a ******* 68,644.2191x AP diffrence. I stg, you could throw a toddler with a knife against MCU Spider-Man and someone on this wiki would say that the toddler would stand a chance due to piercing damage. People really overestimate piercing damage on this site. It doesn't matter if what you're holding is pointy, you physically could not generage enough force to pierce even the weakest spots on someones body if they were that much stronger than you
They are not immune to any sharp objects, They legit get cut and stabbed, This is argument from incredulityArguing someone with a knife and pressure points can overcome a 68,000 times durability gap is absolutely insane.
Daniel stomps. This is ridiculous lmfao.
So does every character in existence. You can get stabbed or slashed by people who scale to your AP— not people 68,000 times weaker than you. Slashing attacks only work if you're actually relative to your opponent.They are not immune to any sharp objects, They legit get cut and stabbed
ExactlySo does every character in existence.
They are not made of metal or anything, They are made of skin which is not resistent to sharp objectsYou can get stabbed or slashed by people who scale to your AP— not people 68,000 times weaker than you. Slashing attacks only work if you're actually relative to your opponent.
Nah, It's okWow, what a mess. Y'all need to chill and just close this thread, it's not going anywhere.
Daniel's skin may as well be made of metal in comparison to Ayanakouji. This is like saying you can cut a mountain with a knife.They are not made of metal or anything, They are made of skin which is not resistent to sharp objects
Lookism characters are showned to be able to get pierced/slashed by sharp things
This arguement is flawed for a number of reasons, one of them being that most weaponry, in the wiki, are accepted to scale with the user's AP. For example, Red Hood's pistols are considered 9-A because Red Hood himself is 9-A, plus actual feats, no normal IRL pistol is 9-A. So a knife in Lookism is stronger than any IRL knife. It's like saying that Batman (an 8-C character) can be harmed by irl 9-C guns because he's harmed by Deadshot or Deathstroke's weaponry, which most of the time are considered just normal guns.They are not made of metal or anything, They are made of skin which is not resistent to sharp objects
No, it's goofy lmao.Nah, It's ok
Yeah, that's kinda wild. I have closed this now.Arguing someone with a knife and pressure points can overcome a 68,000 times durability gap is absolutely insane.
Daniel stomps. This is ridiculous lmfao.
Yeah, that's kinda wild. I have closed this now.
Who is this character you're referring to? Do they have a profile on the wiki?who had 9-C AP
The characters who are being used in this match, Who else?Who is this character you're referring to? Do they have a profile on the wiki?