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And then with him blocking which happens more often
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The whiteroom's masterpiece VS The god of generation 0 (Remake)
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Fallen_Angelicx
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Daniel only has one possible wincon rn which can easily be negated due to daniel's own fighting style. He needs to last long against ayanokoji enough to do his speed amp which would be hard against someone who can predict where your next moves and attempts to dodge will be. Its either Ayanokoji wins or a stomp.
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Vote for Koji then?
Fallen_Angelicx
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Yes, Koji FRA for now until other arguments arise.
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Counted
DivineAura44
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What do you define as block? He didn't block at all, he stopped the attack. The way you are arguing portrays it as if Daniel is willingly taking damage. He's not taking damage at all.
DivineAura44
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It's not lmao
Much prefer if you send an image or explained what happened. I don't have the time to search up the chapter, determine how big the gap is, find the specific part of Ayanokoji starts adapting, and argue at the same time.
Wanna take a stab at what I guess Daniel would do?
I never said anyone was as skilled as Koji, all I said was that dodging an attack mid movement was easy for Daniel. I also don't know what you mean by "answer", there's no question.
Cool. Doesn't make it harder to dodge.
Why'd you add question marks?
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DivineAura44
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Dawg, you can clearly see him catch Sam's leg. That's not a block lmaooo, he caught his opponent's leg in order to not get hit in the back of his head. You are proving my point.
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Interesting.
Fallen_Angelicx
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I mean to be fair. Ayanokoji is fighting him with a knife, so you'll never catch him doing something like this against an armed individual, i dont think he's that dumb either. Can you show a scan of daniel blocking a attack from a armed person? Preferably blocking weapon used.
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It kinda is
Basically, They were sparring 3 rounds max right? Like Zack and Daniel
A sparring match is around 2-3 which is less or equal than the timeframe between Zack and Daniel
Shiro wins the first round, Koji wins the 2nd and the gaps increases even more
He has more
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DivineAura44
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Because as I said, Koji ain't that fast.
Taesoo just speed blitzed him here. Koji can't do that.
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Speed equalized
Taesoo?? Taesoo isn't even there to begin with??
DivineAura44
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As for the scan you posted (I can't find it anymore), I don't think that level of growth is nearly as fast as Daniel.
DivineAura44
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Koji isn't gonna speed blitz in speed equalized
I know it's Daniel but he used Taesoo's move. It was a joke in other words.
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The growth rate is legit higher or equal
Sparring matches are 2-3 minutes
Daniel VS Zack is legit 3 minutes straight as it is stated it is a 3 minute timeframe
Koji is 2 minutes to 3 minutes, Less or equal, Don't downplay now
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Daniel didn't blitz him either and still caught him though?Koji isn't gonna speed blitz in speed equalized
I know it's Daniel but he used Taesoo's move. It was a joke in other words.
He caught him offguard, Koji can and will do the same
DivineAura44
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Yes that may be true but we don't know the gap.
Going from stomp to equal mid fight would be more impressive than going from somewhat losing to somewhat winning.
Daniel has come back from stomps. Show me that level of improvement from Koji.
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Daniel legitimately moved in the middle of the swing of Daniel's kick and countered before Daniel could dodge. That is what most people would call a blitz.
Not with that speed Koji won't.
DivineAura44
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Never said that they were, stop strawmanning.
You also have no proof they aren't speed amps.
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For the love of god, That is what i been saying Koji would do all of this time .-.
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Blitz is legit you going fast enough to the point a person cannot react
Daniel didn't blitz wtf
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I just said the argument was invalid wtf? How am i strawmanning
Assuming they are amps is an even bigger assumption, If there's nothing stated about it (His profile also doesn't have it sooo..)
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DivineAura44
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I never said the moves were speed amps, you responded by saying the argument is invalid because they aren't speed amps. That's a strawman.
You are making a negative assumption (the moves are NOT amps), I am making a neutral assumption (the moves may be amps), a negative assumption is always the bigger assumption because you are making a definitive.
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Fine, But this is kinda irrelevant when it's not on his profile, So we just wasted our time
DivineAura44
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If Daniel can dodge moves he can't react to and couldn't even dodge that attack, the attack must have blitzed him
The attack > Daniel's dodges > Daniel's reaction.
That is a speed blitz.
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No, That is not how it works at all
True body Daniel never blitzed him, This is just an assumption
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Here's the difference. True Body Daniel was faster than Perfect Body Daniel during that attack, Koji isn't faster than Daniel because speed is equalized.
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The arguments for Koji is the same
Daniel is him adapting to Koji's strenght and gets faster and wins
DivineAura44
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We literally see the attack hit Daniel before he could react, how could you possibly argue it's an assumption
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By saying this you are automatically saying Gun was constantly blitzing him which is certainly not the case
This is legit argument from incredulity
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Koji's Argument -
Koji uses his ANPR to put Daniel into a position where Daniel can't dodge the next attack and stab Daniel to death.
Daniel's Argument - Daniel will use his dodging ability to dodge Koji until he gets fast enough to overwhelm Koji.
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