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The whiteroom's masterpiece VS The god of generation 0 (Remake)
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DivineAura44
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Your entire argument for Daniel was dura neg + paralysis inducement which was removed
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Bro, This is legit argument from incredulity in its purest form
They were not blitzing each other, Gun also has UI, You didn't even ONCE see him say he cannot react to him
DivineAura44
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To be honest, only one mod agreed to that and I didn't even have time to debunk that so I'm probably looking to get that added back soon.
Fallen_Angelicx
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If the opposition's mindset stays the same, then just count their vote. Not doing such will result with 8+ pages like the last thread.
DivineAura44
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They don't have to outright say "Gun blitzed Daniel" for you to understand he did. THAT is an example of a fallacious argument.
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1 mod was enough because it was a minor CRT (It only affected 1 character)
Also, UI Daniel never saw Warren Chae do that technique, So you can't assume he knows it
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I don't think you know how this works at all
Show me proof of them blitzing each other, Preferably, I want it being STATED
You are using argument from incredulity
Fallen_Angelicx
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What does the debate currently happening change?
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He loses his dura neg + paralysis inducement, Loses his ability to get stronger and faster, His reactive evolution doesn't make him counter in a perfect way the opponent
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Thanks, I appreciate it.
So the main argument from Daniel's side is that he will eventually become too fast for Koji to handle right? But why would it be the case? Ultra instinct only makes you match the opponent's stats and skills, so the only things Daniel will do is match ayanokouji's power and won't grew past him.
EDIT: I don't see any AD on his profile or either remember him having it from the serie.
DivineAura44
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I've never seen that rule before but wtv
Daniel has copied entire styles before that he hasn't seen at all (Capoeira), it's not crazy to say he could learn a singular move of a style he's seen when he's stated to master EVERY martial art he knows.
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Oh, I forgot to mention that he is less skilled than before since he doesn't "Master" after copying stuff now
DivineAura44
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I already debunked this. UI doesn't take you to the level of the opponent. It takes you to the level you need to be to beat the opponent.
DivineAura44
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Once again, I don't have to do that at all my guy.
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I believe that's false.
I sent a scan (from webtoon) that specifically says "if you fight someone weak you'll be equally weak", also when Gun explain Daniel how to beat a UI users he says you must hide your true abilities so when he goes down and matches them you show your true abilities, which wouldn't make sense unless UI makes you match your opponent's abilities.
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You do, You are blantanly using argument from incredulity
You don't see "Higher reaction speed" on his profile do you?
You can clearly see him reacting to Daniel's punch
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DivineAura44
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Shows the blankest, most unchanged expression of all time.
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That's legit how UI is, He is looking at the attack and still gets hit, If you say otherwise, You will have to forgive me but i cannot say anything else than mention how you are being ignorant and biased, Again, Forgive me
DivineAura44
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You can clearly see that TB Daniel puts his arm out in attempt to stop the attack, PB just moves so fast he can't completely dodge the attack.
He's not looking at an attack? He's staring at TB's elbow which isn't moving. He THEN gets attacked too fast too dodge.
DivineAura44
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You just made the claim that Daniel reacted, then showed me Daniel not reacting, are currently taking back your claim of reaction, and expect me to not find that as laughable?
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I'm still seeing Dura Neg on his profile for some reason.
DivineAura44
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It's Systema tho, not CQC.
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Systema which is not CQC and is easily dodgable via predicting
DivineAura44
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They are not reacting to the blows, they have simply perceived them. These are two completely different things.
DivineAura44
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You can put me as Daniel.
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I never said he would just rush in and use Systema like a maniac so no.
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Btw, All your previous arguments are invalid since they were all removed
- No more stronger and faster
- No more counter perfectly
- No more dura neg + paralysis inducement
- No more adapt to ANPR and stuff
- No more master after copying
DivineAura44
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1. Not true.
2. Ig
3. Still has dura neg in a different degree
4. That still seems weird to me, I have to check that.
5. What proof do you have that Daniel doesn't master the move he copies?
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It's true, Argument from incredulity doesn't make it false however
His argument was dura neg and paralysis inducement (Basically CQC)
It's not
The fact it's not stated anywhere he does? He copies, Thats it
And the fact it's not stated anywhere they were blitzing each other too
DivineAura44
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It's an argument from incredulity to say that someone who is stronger according to the profile is stronger?
I never said it wasn't.
ok
This never happened?
Once again, it doesn't have to be. Also this has nothing to do with the prior argument.
At this point the debate is getting circular, I'm done arguing, I'll let people vote who they think should win.
DivineAura44
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The scan is literally proof of what I had been claiming earlier and proves Daniel would one shot.
Daniel is adjusting to the opponent, he doesn't automatically know their power. Daniel starts off one shotting Ayanokoji and would go down to his level if necessary. Except unlike in the fight with Daniel, it wouldn't be necessary because according to your arguments, Daniel would be struggling so bad he might straight up lose before he can properly adapt.
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You are mistaking something
Daniel has not mastered anything, He has copied it
UI Daniel however, Has 7 martial arts perfected, He didn't copy shit as they were already mastered to begin with, It's on his profile
It quite literally does, You can't assume something so outrageous without proof of it
DivineAura44
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So yeah, I think I'm done. This has been done to death. If there are any questions just as but ask of now I think I've handedly proved why Daniel takes this one.
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