So anyways an outline of the revision
3-A
Originally on the
other thread with the statements Juda’s universe distortion feat was accepted as at least
3-B, likely
3-A. But after taking a look at the
tiering system. I found this line under the
footnotes. For
3-A to
2-A
"Significantly affect" is used as an umbrella term for feats that don't involve direct creation or destruction but are comparable to them in power, such as
warping and distorting the entirety of the structure in question, sustaining its existence with one's own, merging the structure with another one, etc.
And this is a part of
Juda’s databook statement that
Qliphoth translated for us.
Juda, the Universe "Destroyer":
50,000 years ago, when he
attempted to destroy the universe by distorting the whole universe, Father of Ultra corrected the distortion of the universe and he was once defeated, but he has been resurrected many years later. In the recent battle, he and the Grand King, who had been sharing his power with him, disappeared, but there is a possibility that they will be resurrected again.
The description straight up said he distorted the entire universe and the tiering system says distorting the universe qualifies for
3-A so rather than at least
3-B, likely
3-A, Juda should just be straight up
3-A
High 3-A
And for
High 3-A I recently found
these two statements saying Ultimate Final Geed has infinite power. One is from the novelization of the movie when he transforms and the other is from one of the databook that says fighting power is infinite. And in the last episode of his series (Before he unlocked Ultimate Final in the movie),
King also said his infinite potential is still untapped.
Qliphoth has also translated these two statements for us
1: "Setting the Evolution Capsule into the Giga Finalizer, Riku transformed.
The ultimate form of Jade, with his power raised to infinity...
Ultraman Geed to the Ultimate Final!"
2: "This is the form with infinite fighting power that has been Ultimate Evolved with the Evolution Capsule. He will continue to fight for the future of the Earth."
And
High 3-A wouldn’t even be an outlier as by The Ultra Galaxy Era which is around 10000 year after the Heisei Era,
Hikari who along with Max is at the very bottom of the known Ultras scaling is capable of defeating Armored Mephilas
who is equal to Armored Darkness who is equal to Alien Empera who is superior to Juda who is
3-A. And
Ultimate Final Geed is one of the strongest characters in the Post-Crisis Impact Era (Two Eras after Ultra Galaxy) with only a handful of characters who are stronger than him. And some of them who are stronger than him scales to the Super Dimension Eradication Bomb. Which brings me to my next point.
Low 2-C
The Super Dimension Eradication Bomb (超時空消滅爆弾
Chō Jikū Shōmetsu Bakudan) otherwise known as Super Space-Time Eradication Bomb. Is stated
in series (Around the 01:00 mark) and in
the databook to be capable of destroying the entire universe by causing a dimension rift that spreads throughout the entire universe. Here is Qliphoth‘s translation of this part from the databook.
“The destructive power of the Super Dimensional Eradication Bomb is so great that the original fault line centered on the explosion on said Earth spreads throughout the universe and collapses the entire Side Space. Even with the power of the Ultramans of the Land of Light, they were unable to stop this collapse..."
And as shown with the notes under the tiering system significantly affecting the entire structure would also count as
3-A to
2-A. And the bomb‘s name literally says its a space-time eradication bomb and we have statements both in series and in the databooks that said it affected the entire universe (
In this case the Side Space universe which has its own time flow. In the movies it is also mentioned that each universe has its own time flow. It’s the reason why some of the characters in their human forms didn’t seem to age even though it has been around 12 years since they last met). And so I believe instead of the bomb being accepted as at least
3-A, likely
Low 2-C like in this thread, the bomb should be considered straight up
Low 2-C.
Scaling
If these things get accepted the characters that scale would be
3-A: Juda, Grand King, Showa Era Super Taro, Glitter Tiga, Heisei Era Future Mode Cosmos, Heisei Era Crusher Mode Justice, Gloker Rook, Gloker Bishop, Giga Endra, Alien Empera, Armored Darkness, Armored Mephilas, possibly U-Killersaurus and Giga Khimaira, everybody Ultra Galaxy Era onwards
High 3-A: Ultimate Final Geed, Snake Darkness, Groob, Post-Crisis Impact Era and Reiwa Era Tregear, Gillvalis, Reiwa Era Ultra Brothers, Galaxy Rising Geed, 2nd Form Greeza (Ultraman Z), Delta Rise Claw Z, Fusion Baraba, Beliarok, Destrudos, Tri-Strium Taiga, Reiwa Era New Generation Ultra’s strongest form, and Woola
Low 2-C: Post-Crisis Impact Era Belial, Post-Crisis Impact Era Ultimate and Shining Zero, Reiwa Era Zero, Tartarus amped Belial and Tregear, Grimdo. Absolute Tartarus, King, Noa, Legend, and Delacion would be
Low 2-C. If Father of Ultra is still considered on par with Base Zero even in the Reiwa Era than he would also be
Low 2-C. Joneus might become
Low 2-C as well depending on how well he does against Tartarus in UGF2.
Reason for the characters scaling to
Low 2-C is because Post-Crisis Impact Era Belial
survived being in the epicenter the bomb while being in a weakened state. And the others roughly scale to, above, and/or below him. Delacion would be possibly
Low 2-C since its stated in the databooks that she might be the creator of the M78 universe.
