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yesSchnee One said:Why am I seeing votes removed from the OP?
Thought I'd bring this back upDTG499 said:@EmporerRorepme
No decent/smart fighter would tank an attack that they have never dealt with before, period. Goku would be able to tell that something is up with his HV from the insane heat it gives off. He has never dealt with anything close to that level of heat, he would not know if he would be able to take it or not and he is not going to test it by tanking it or blocking it. Goku has never tanked anything that he didn't know for sure want going to damage him. There are no scans you can show me of him testing a new type of attack by tanking or blocking it and it leading to lethal damage.
Goku would transform the moment he senses Superman's APOblivion Of The Endless said:Yes he does, the AP diffrence is that high
Any hit at 650 kilofoes would break him apart
Goku can sense and transform faster than Superman can close the gap and no, he doesn't get one shotted in either of those forms IIRC.Oblivion Of The Endless said:You forget that Goku literally gets oneshot since he is starting in base
And also gets one shot'd at SSJ and SSJ2 forms
This.The real cal howard said:This is the same dude that gradually used all his forms against Jiren, despite Jiren being above them all by a sizable amount.
That's not even the manga version though IIRC.00potato said:This.The real cal howard said:This is the same dude that gradually used all his forms against Jiren, despite Jiren being above them all by a sizable amount.
ThisDragomer said:That's not even the manga version though IIRC.00potato said:This.The real cal howard said:This is the same dude that gradually used all his forms against Jiren, despite Jiren being above them all by a sizable amount.
There has officially been a Goku vote.Dragomer said:We wait for 1 more Goku vote or until grace ends.NormalPerson87 said:
The calc i saw on the previous thread put him above that and then you stack the SSJ2 multipliers and it give a significant AP advantage to Goku, especialy in SSJ3.Oblivion Of The Endless said:Base Goku is literally around 1-6 kilofoes....
Superman is hitting with with heat vision i guesse.CBslayeR said:What are the win conditions for both? I'm new to the thread lol
Do you think supes would go for the one shot kill via HV right off the bat?NormalPerson87 said:Oh yeah, BTW, Supes FRA.
When does grace end?The Wright Way said:There have also been a few Superman votes, so Grace is still going.
The AP difference can make that real even if he holds back a bitDTG499 said:Do you think supes would go for the one shot kill via HV right off the bat?NormalPerson87 said:Oh yeah, BTW, Supes FRA.
I mean, does Supes goes for HV first thing in character? If so, then yes, it's a easy stomp. If not, then Goku will still probably get killed due to Supes having a convincing AP advantage at the start. Could be wrong, though.DTG499 said:Do you think supes would go for the one shot kill via HV right off the bat?NormalPerson87 said:Oh yeah, BTW, Supes FRA.
In around 23 hours and 30 minutes at least since a new grace was declared half an hour agao.Roachman40 said:When does grace end?The Wright Way said:There have also been a few Superman votes, so Grace is still going.
No, he mostly doesn't but even if he did, Goku can easily dodge, they start at 4 kilometer away from each other, more than enough for Goku to sense Superman and transform to the appropriate form even if we ignore that Superman tend to test the water like Goku instead of going full power from the start.NormalPerson87 said:I mean, does Supes goes for HV first thing in character? If so, then yes, it's a easy stomp. If not, then Goku will still probably get killed due to Supes having a convincing AP advantage at the start. Could be wrong, though.DTG499 said:Do you think supes would go for the one shot kill via HV right off the bat?NormalPerson87 said:Oh yeah, BTW, Supes FRA.
He wont go straight up to SSJ3Gilad Hyperstar said:Goku transforms before Supes reaching him since speed is equalized
And Superman won't straight up use his full power either.Oblivion Of The Endless said:He wont go straight up to SSJ3Gilad Hyperstar said:Goku transforms before Supes reaching him since speed is equalized
Heat Vision is very in character.Dragomer said:And Superman won't straight up use his full power either.Oblivion Of The Endless said:He wont go straight up to SSJ3Gilad Hyperstar said:Goku transforms before Supes reaching him since speed is equalized
And SS1 is nowhere near the AP of SupermanDTG499 said:He would go ss1, it's in character to test the waters with it.
Except any hit would blow Goku up, he is 650 kilofoe normallyDragomer said:And Superman won't straight up use his full power either.Oblivion Of The Endless said:He wont go straight up to SSJ3Gilad Hyperstar said:Goku transforms before Supes reaching him since speed is equalized
"Weaknesses: Goku seeks strong opponents and will therefore allow his opponents to reach their full power for the sake of a good fight. He often drops his guard and leaves openings for his opponents whenever he gets distracted, lowering his durability."Dragomer said:And Superman won't straight up use his full power either.Oblivion Of The Endless said:He wont go straight up to SSJ3Gilad Hyperstar said:Goku transforms before Supes reaching him since speed is equalized
If goku had an AP advantage that argument would be moot since he still uses a good deal of his power when fighting opponents.NormalPerson87 said:"Weaknesses: Goku seeks strong opponents and will therefore allow his opponents to reach their full power for the sake of a good fight. He often drops his guard and leaves openings for his opponents whenever he gets distracted, lowering his durability."Dragomer said:And Superman won't straight up use his full power either.Oblivion Of The Endless said:He wont go straight up to SSJ3Gilad Hyperstar said:Goku transforms before Supes reaching him since speed is equalized
This what I saw from his profile.