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The most controversial debate continues... Son Goku vs Superman (7-20-16).
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You forget that Goku literally gets oneshot since he is starting in base
And also gets one shot'd at SSJ and SSJ2 forms
Goku can sense and transform faster than Superman can close the gap and no, he doesn't get one shotted in either of those forms IIRC.
And that's forgetting Superman doesn't go all out from the start either.
Yes he does, the AP diffrence is that high
Any hit at 650 kilofoes would break him apart
And also gets one shot'd at SSJ and SSJ2 forms
Goku can sense and transform faster than Superman can close the gap and no, he doesn't get one shotted in either of those forms IIRC.
And that's forgetting Superman doesn't go all out from the start either.
Yes he does, the AP diffrence is that high
Any hit at 650 kilofoes would break him apart
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yesSchnee One said:
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Superman FRA (I don't even know Why I deleted my comment)
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This is the same dude that gradually used all his forms against Jiren, despite Jiren being above them all by a sizable amount.
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Goku would transform the moment he senses Superman's APOblivion Of The Endless said:
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Goku can sense and transform faster than Superman can close the gap and no, he doesn't get one shotted in either of those forms IIRC.Oblivion Of The Endless said:
And that's forgetting Superman doesn't go all out from the start either.
Yes he does, the AP diffrence is that high
Any hit at 650 kilofoes would break him apart
No, he doesn't, the AP gap isn't that big once Goku transform and Goku arguably has the AP advantage too then.
And once again, Superman does the same thing Goku does with testing the waters.
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Base Goku is literally around 1-6 kilofoes....
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Goku FRA
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Yes. In BoG. Goku has become MUCH stronger afterward during the succeeding arcs. This is Mid-Way Black-Saga Goku used here
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There has officially been a Goku vote.Dragomer said:We wait for 1 more Goku vote or until grace ends.NormalPerson87 said:I mean, it's grace period now so.....
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We wait for 1 more Goku vote or until grace ends.
There has officially been a Goku vote.
There have also been a few Superman votes, so Grace is still going.
There has officially been a Goku vote.
There have also been a few Superman votes, so Grace is still going.
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Oh yeah, BTW, Supes FRA.
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When does grace end?The Wright Way said:
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...I haven't the foggiest clue. It's gonna be awhile though, because at least 24 hours have to pass.
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The AP difference can make that real even if he holds back a bitDTG499 said:
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I mean, does Supes goes for HV first thing in character? If so, then yes, it's a easy stomp. If not, then Goku will still probably get killed due to Supes having a convincing AP advantage at the start. Could be wrong, though.DTG499 said:
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Goku transforms before Supes reaching him since speed is equalized
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No, he mostly doesn't but even if he did, Goku can easily dodge, they start at 4 kilometer away from each other, more than enough for Goku to sense Superman and transform to the appropriate form even if we ignore that Superman tend to test the water like Goku instead of going full power from the start.NormalPerson87 said:
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He wont go straight up to SSJ3Gilad Hyperstar said:
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Yes he would if Supes AP would one shot him otherwise. Goku can sense Supes ki and thus his power.
Also by scaling Goku only need SSJ2 to reach Supes AP or surpass it
Also by scaling Goku only need SSJ2 to reach Supes AP or surpass it
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Heat Vision is very in character.Dragomer said:
That is "his full power"
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And SS1 is nowhere near the AP of SupermanDTG499 said:
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Except any hit would blow Goku up, he is 650 kilofoe normallyDragomer said:
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"Weaknesses: Goku seeks strong opponents and will therefore allow his opponents to reach their full power for the sake of a good fight. He often drops his guard and leaves openings for his opponents whenever he gets distracted, lowering his durability."Dragomer said:
This what I saw from his profile.
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If goku had an AP advantage that argument would be moot since he still uses a good deal of his power when fighting opponents.NormalPerson87 said:
Thing is that unless he goes SSJ3 at the bat one hit from Supes blasts him into a million pieces
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