The most controversial debate continues... Son Goku vs Superman (7-20-16).

[Dragomer]

Honestly, this thread is completely pointless. If votes are just going to be removed so that the votes are more in Goku's favor then I'm out.

These votes should have been removed a long ago, it's hell ooc for Superman to just go out and AoE with heat vision when he alnost never uses it IC...

About as in character for Goku to actually spam IT in combat or use solar flare. Please don't tag me, I want nothing to do with this discussion.

We saw Goku do both and neither of those moves require Goku to suddenly cross half the planete instantly despite Superman being right there with speed equalized and then ignore everything Superman could do to counter those moves.

I mean even if we give everything to the planete AOE from space thing, it still ignore Goku just counter blasting with an AP advantage.

 

[Zamasu_Chan]

There's a literal reply for every minute. Chill out guys.

 

[Dragomer]

Iketheradianthero is litteraly the only guy trying to start something TBH, everyone else is just talking normaly.

 

[LordUrien935]

There's a literal reply for every minute. Chill out guys.

It's the most famous versus debate in the history of fiction. People won't chill out when it comes to this topic.

 

[The_Wright_Way]

Imagine deleting people comments showing how superior Superman is too any dragon ball characters and deleting votes for Superman, couldn't be me.

Dude, I'm the guy deleting your comments and I literally voted for Superman. You're arguing stats that aren't on the profiles in a thread that's already on pins and needles. Make a CRT and get it accepted. Until then, stop.

 

[NormalPerson87]

Um, isn't it grace, now? Supes has 9, and Goku has 7, last I checked.

 

[Roun12]

This thread was a mistake.

 

[Maverick_Zero_X]

Son Goku (Chou) and Superman (Post-Crisis) are both Solar System level for this fight.

 

[LordUrien935]

Um, isn't it grace, now? Supes has 9, and Goku has 7, last I checked.

Superman has 10, so grace again for Superman.

 

[The_Wright_Way]

I don't think it ever stopped being grace for Superman.

 

[LordUrien935]

Someone said it was grace for incon since the vote difference was less than 3.

 

[Dragomer]

I don't think it ever stopped being grace for Superman.

It was 7 to 9 for a while and i was told grace is for a 3 votes difference.

 

[The_Wright_Way]

I mean, the vote count changes every five seconds, so who can keep track.

 

[C2_of_Omegon]

This thread was a mistake.

It always is because no matter how civil the debate, someone always comes aand has to poison the well.

Honestly, Wonder Woman vs Goku would have been better and more straightforward, but that's just my opinion.

EDIT: It's also my personal opinion that this matchup should be banned. It's just too big and always attracts someone who either massively downplays or wanks one of the character.

 

[Omegas03]

There was some guy being toxic and taking scans out of context...

 

[The_Wright_Way]

I mean, it's really not a problem as long as I keep deleting the replies.

 

[Eden_Warlock99]

@iker If you want to Downgrade Goku, or Upgrade Superman, make a CRT, You can't make Superman Multi-Solar System in a Versus thread

 

[Omegas03]

@iker

We use the profiles for debating. Any universal feat for Superman is outlier here.

 

[Schnee_One]

I'm making a thread to ban this and I am closing

 

[The_Wright_Way]

I have this well in hand Schnee. It's literally one guy. I can easily delete his replies as everyone else is still civil.

 

[Roachman40]

Um, isn't it grace, now? Supes has 9, and Goku has 7, last I checked.

yes

 

[NormalPerson87]

I mean, it's grace period now so.....

 

[Dragomer]

I'd say it would be unfair to call this discussion toxic when everyone has been perfectly reasonable except just one guy who showed up 5 minute before the previous thread reached the post limit.

 

[LordUrien935]

Yeah, closing seems to be a bit drastic. It was only one guy, and we've made it to around 500+ replies while being civil.

 

[Schnee_One]

Sorry for the overreaction, but the user needs a warning

 

[Dragomer]

I mean, it's grace period now so.....

We wait for 1 more Goku vote or until grace ends.

 

[LordUrien935]

Damn man, Superman is winning right now. Isn't that enough for you?

 

[NormalPerson87]

@iker
If you want to Downgrade Goku, or Upgrade Superman, make a CRT, You can't make Superman Multi-Solar System in a Versus thread

I mean, going by what I've seen, Multi-Solar System probably isn't too far fetched.

 

[Stalker_Maggot]

Superman fra

 

[LordUrien935]

There's a time and place to discuss GLs in Sinestro Corps War being 4-A, but this thread ain't it.

 

[Roachman40]

Its already Grace anyways, its been grace for a little while now.

 

[C2_of_Omegon]

Damn man, Superman is winning right now. Isn't that enough for you?

Nope. Because unless you're agreeing with their exact interperation, you're biased.

 

[The_Wright_Way]

Guys, I gave him a warning. It's fine. Let's get back on point.

 

[LordUrien935]

I don't understand the need to wank Superman or downplay Goku. Isn't it more satisfying if either of them wins in a very close match?

 

[Oblivion_Of_The_Endless]

The argument for Superman is nonsensical since why would Superman use a Planetry Heat Vision that would everyone on Earth, including the people he's trying to protect, against Goku?

You forget that Goku literally gets oneshot since he is starting in base

And also gets one shot'd at SSJ and SSJ2 forms

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

My vote for Supes wasn't counted. I thought I made it clear I was voting for him.

 

[LordUrien935]

BTW have you voted yet, Oblivion?

 

[Oblivion_Of_The_Endless]

BTW have you voted yet, Oblivion?

Yes, if it wasnt clear before, my vote is for Superman

 

[Dragomer]

The argument for Superman is nonsensical since why would Superman use a Planetry Heat Vision that would everyone on Earth, including the people he's trying to protect, against Goku?

You forget that Goku literally gets oneshot since he is starting in base
And also gets one shot'd at SSJ and SSJ2 forms

Goku can sense and transform faster than Superman can close the gap and no, he doesn't get one shotted in either of those forms IIRC.

And that's forgetting Superman doesn't go all out from the start either.

 

[LordUrien935]

That is 13 votes for Superman.