The Fate of the World (Neo Metal Sonic vs Yhwach) [13-8-1]

[Hellscream]

Auswählen: The extension of Yhwach's abilities to distribute portions of his soul, which he utilized after being sealed for 990 years to regain the power that he had lost. After selecting whichever Quincies he deems appropriate for absorption, typically choosing the "impure", Yhwach can absorb their power and retake his soul, killing his victims in the process. This power can thus be redistributed to whichever Quincies Yhwach deems more useful, reviving those that have died.

His absorption sounds like it's soul based power absorption in Auswählen and most of it's sub-abilities, which metal doesn't have a soul so it's debatable if that even works on robots.

That's one of his power absorptions..
He has multiple nobody even brought up auswahlen

 

[Hellscream]

How is this relevant for the fact that they never touched it?

Damn, how'd they defeat it without touching it?

 

[omegabronic]

Damn, how'd they defeat it without touching it?

By blowing up the mech that he was inside?

 

[Ikelaggan]

That's one of his power absorptions..
He has multiple nobody even brought up auswahlen

Has anyone even brought up a very specific power absorption in name outside of Auswählen

 

[Hellscream]

By blowing up the mech that he was inside?

so they physically touched the eggman, and the mech where metal was leaking out of?
Where exactly does metal ever copy just on sight?

 

[Hellscream]

Has anyone even brought up a very specific power absorption in name outside of Auswählen

sankt altar
and yhwach physically absorbing beings i posted screenshots of sankt altar earlier, i can post all cases of yhwach absorbing powers if people want that

 

[omegabronic]

so they physically touched the eggman, and the mech where metal was leaking out of?

No? Metal was inside the egg albatros
While shapeshifted as eggman, the eggalbatros blew up and metal blew up with it

Where exactly does metal ever copy just on sight?

I showef you the link, he saw then and then copied

 

[Hellscream]

No? Metal was inside the egg albatros
While shapeshifted as eggman, the eggalbatros blew up and metal blew up with it

I showef you the link, he saw then and then copied

metal was inside the egg albatros, and who blew it up?

Seems like they're touching it to me?

 

[Ikelaggan]

sankt altar

That's sub-powered right under Auswählen, so probably still soul based.

 

[Hellscream]

That's sub-powered right under Auswählen, so probably still soul based.

"probably" no. sankt altar is not soul based, nor is his physical absorption.

 

[Hellscream]

auswahlen works by yhwach distributing his soul fragments into people by touching them, letting them develop and then taking his soul fragment back along with all information of that said character, their memories, skills, abilities everything.

Sankt altar absorbs and steals the powers of anything it touches.

Yhwach's physical absorption just absorbs anything he touches, which includes incorporeal masses such as Mimihagi

Auswahlen has nothing to do with his other absorptions.

 

[Ikelaggan]

"probably" no. sankt altar is not soul based, nor is his physical absorption.

Yhwach can absorb their power and retake his soul, killing his victims in the process
I don't know it sounds pretty disingenuous to say it's 100% not soul based absorption when the description says otherwise

 

[omegabronic]

metal was inside the egg albatros, and who blew it up?

Seems like they're touching it to me?

No, they never touched metal but only the egg albatros

 

[Hellscream]

No, they never touched metal but only the egg albatros

which metal was inside of right

 

[omegabronic]

which metal was inside of right

Yes, edited since i felt like it was a little bit agressive

 

[Hellscream]

How is this relevant?

thanks for confirming

 

[Ikelaggan]

Yhwach's physical absorption just absorbs anything he touches, which includes incorporeal masses such as Mimihagi

Enhanced Absorption (Biological, Energy, Soul and Power; Yhwach can now absorb peoples bodies into himself through contact[49] and directly absorb their powers for himself as well[50]
They still have it layered as bio and soul in there.

Auswahlen has nothing to do with his other absorptions.

That doesn't unlayer the soul based thou

 

[Hellscream]

Enhanced Absorption (Biological, Energy, Soul and Power; Yhwach can now absorb peoples bodies into himself through contact[49] and directly absorb their powers for himself as well[50]
They still have it layered as bio and soul in there.

That doesn't unlayer the soul based thou

he literally has every possible absorption on the wiki ?XD

 

[omegabronic]

If the absortion in biological then it wouldn't work on metal

 

[Hellscream]

If the absortion in biological then it wouldn't work on metal

he has all types that are on the wiki

 

[Ikelaggan]

he literally has every possible absorption on the wiki ?XD

Gaslighting aside, how does any of this affect metal

 

[Hellscream]

Gaslighting aside, how does any of this affect metal

If he can absorb any type of power / energy and a incorporeal black mass then he's absorbing metal

 

[omegabronic]

If he can absorb any type of power / energy and a incorporeal black mass then he's absorbing metal

Super neo Metal's energy is infinite

 

[Ikelaggan]

he has all types that are on the wiki

That's every type not every layer to every hax you can add to absorption.

If he can absorb any type of power / energy and a incorporeal black mass then he's absorbing metal

Adding NPI doesn't mean you can suddenly absorb machines now, especially if your trying to make it not sound like a NLF off the rip.

 

[Hellscream]

Man, it literally doesn't even matter whether he absorbs metal himself or not, he can just absorb his abilities it's not an argument either way

 

[Hellscream]

That's every type not every layer to every hax you can add to absorption.

Adding NPI doesn't mean you can suddenly absorb machines now, especially if your trying to make it not sound like a NLF off the rip.

if you can absorb an inorganic black mass that's incorporeal then you can absorb machines.

 

[Ikelaggan]

if you can absorb an inorganic black mass that's incorporeal then you can absorb machines.

That's a straight NLF in a can. Lmao XD

 

[Hellscream]

That's a straight NLF in a can. Lmao XD

Lmao XD prove that it's an NLF.
Sonic has energy, yhwach absorbs it.
Sonic has abilities, yhwach absorbs it.
Yhwach can absorb inorganic incorporeal masses therefore, he can absorb him.

 

[Robo432343]

Lmao XD prove that it's an NLF.
Sonic has energy, yhwach absorbs it.
Sonic has abilities, yhwach absorbs it.
Yhwach can absorb inorganic incorporeal masses therefore, he can absorb him.

...that is such a big NLF

 

[omegabronic]

Lmao XD prove that it's an NLF.
Sonic has energy, yhwach absorbs it.
Sonic has abilities, yhwach absorbs it.
Yhwach can absorb inorganic incorporeal masses therefore, he can absorb him.

The type of inorganic is different

 

[Robo432343]

thats like saying goku can sense shadow energy because the person uses energy

 

[Deceived3596]

I'm sorry i'm not going to be able to respond today, I was pre-occupied most of the day and i'm about to go to bed. I'll hopefully have enough time tomorrow to respond (if this thread is still open however)

 

[YungManzi]

Technically, Yhwach can't provably physically absorb things that don't have souls... everything in bleach has souls including atoms iirc.

 

[Hellscream]

Technically, Yhwach can't provably physically absorb things that don't have souls... everything in bleach has souls including atoms iirc.

Verse equalization: Similar supernatural aspects of verses get equalized in a reasonable fashion. So a supernatural energy that almost everyone in a Verse has, which is necessary to fight the characters of said Verse, will be assumed to be the equivalent energy that the opponents use in their techniques so that a proper fight can happen.

Furthermore, attacks that require a special type of energy to be effective, like anti-magic requiring magic, will be assumed to work against the energies of different Verses, as long as they are somehow similar and the mechanics are somehow compatible with the known mechanics behind the energies from different Verses. For example, mind control resistance by being a capable mind user would also work against other Verses, but mind control resistance through a strong will would not necessarily work against mind control from other Verses. It is also important to note that characters won't lose or gain any abilities or resistances which they do or do not inherently possess. However, if an ability has a weakness, condition, caveat, or limitation, consistently shown throughout its use (such as not working on characters under a specific condition, like energy gap) or stated by a valid and uncontradicted statement, then it should be applicable after the equalization.

Equalization works highly on a case-by-case basis, so many relevant cases should be discussed in the versus thread itself.

 

[Robo432343]

if sonics energy and yhwachs energy are similar enough then verse can be equaled ig

 

[YungManzi]

Verse equalization: Similar supernatural aspects of verses get equalized in a reasonable fashion. So a supernatural energy that almost everyone in a Verse has, which is necessary to fight the characters of said Verse, will be assumed to be the equivalent energy that the opponents use in their techniques so that a proper fight can happen.

Idk that verse equalization makes it so that inanimate objects have souls in verses outside of bleach.

 

[Hellscream]

I forgot to mention, soulreapers, hollows and arrancar / quincies are all able to affect the physical realm, and can interact with it.

 

[omegabronic]

Verse equalization: Similar supernatural aspects of verses get equalized in a reasonable fashion. So a supernatural energy that almost everyone in a Verse has, which is necessary to fight the characters of said Verse, will be assumed to be the equivalent energy that the opponents use in their techniques so that a proper fight can happen.

Furthermore, attacks that require a special type of energy to be effective, like anti-magic requiring magic, will be assumed to work against the energies of different Verses, as long as they are somehow similar and the mechanics are somehow compatible with the known mechanics behind the energies from different Verses. For example, mind control resistance by being a capable mind user would also work against other Verses, but mind control resistance through a strong will would not necessarily work against mind control from other Verses. It is also important to note that characters won't lose or gain any abilities or resistances which they do or do not inherently possess. However, if an ability has a weakness, condition, caveat, or limitation, consistently shown throughout its use (such as not working on characters under a specific condition, like energy gap) or stated by a valid and uncontradicted statement, then it should be applicable after the equalization.

Equalization works highly on a case-by-case basis, so many relevant cases should be discussed in the versus thread itself.

this would not apply here since both are nowhere near similar enough

 

[Hellscream]

this would not apply here since both are nowhere near similar enough

Can you provide me with a screenshot of sonic biocopying a soul btw, which is immaterial
like the name itself says "biocopy"
Biology is a branch of science that deals with living organisms and their vital processes. Biology encompasses diverse fields, including botany, conservation, ecology, evolution, genetics, marine biology, medicine, microbiology, molecular biology, physiology, and zoology.

 

[omegabronic]

Can you provide me with a screenshot of sonic biocopying a soul btw, which is immaterial

?