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I see. Sonic could still copy this, no?
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The Fate of the World (Neo Metal Sonic vs Yhwach) [13-8-1]
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Why can't he seal or BFR him? He would know to use it if he copies Yhwach's data and basically know everything about him at this point?
Plus he can use Chaos Control out of Absorption.
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It would not for metal's actions simce he exista in a different system of cause and effect, making it impossible for yhwach to even see the effects of metal's actions in the future
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Yes, he cam even adapt to the absortion and would know everything that yhwach can do after copying it
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Man
Yhwach can manipulate an infinite amount of possibilities at once, Sonic is not affecting / killing him in all of them at once.
So you're claiming he can't see his own death right, despite resisting causality manipulation, and despite him being able to alter his own fate.
You're pretty much claiming sonics acausality affects yhwach's causality, causing his fate manipulation not to work on himself?
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It doesn't matter whether he copies yhwach's powers, he's not putting him down
Yhwach has ranged absorption that works instantly, and physical absorption.
Yhwach has ranged absorption that works instantly, and physical absorption.
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I don't see how this is relevant, the acausality type 4 would make metal not appear in any of them, the amount of possobiloties he can does not matter
He resosting matters because? Nothing is being used on him to be resisted, also acausality is not the same and causality
If his fate is made by metal's action he wouldn't be able to since metal exists in a different system of cause and effect making it impossible for yhwach to either see or change the actions and effects os metal's actions
More like that to change the effects of his fate he needs to change the cause that makes it, which he can't, he wouldn'y even see the said fate at all for that matter
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Dude you're just saying the same shit over and over
I already said 50 times that yhwach doesn't see sonic in any of his futures, but he can still see the effects of him on his own body.
Prove that sonic affects yhwach's causality or drop it
yhwach can still see the cause and effect of his own body, sonic is not changing or manipulating that
Yhwach doesn't need to change the cause that makes it, what are you even saying?
just because sonic himself has acausality yhwach can't use fate manipulation at all anymore what kidna NLF bs are you pulling?
The only thing is affects is his himself, he's not affecting yhwach's causality
I already said 50 times that yhwach doesn't see sonic in any of his futures, but he can still see the effects of him on his own body.
Prove that sonic affects yhwach's causality or drop it
yhwach can still see the cause and effect of his own body, sonic is not changing or manipulating that
Yhwach doesn't need to change the cause that makes it, what are you even saying?
just because sonic himself has acausality yhwach can't use fate manipulation at all anymore what kidna NLF bs are you pulling?
The only thing is affects is his himself, he's not affecting yhwach's causality
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He copies and absorbs yhwach instead, plus chaos control is also instant
Hellscream
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Where is his biocopy on his profile even? i don't see it anywhere
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And i am explaning why he can't acausality covers both cause(metal) and effecs(metal one shotting) he can't see, plain and simple
Why would i need to prove that when it is metal's acausality on himself that is the problem?
You don't seen to understand how cause and effect works, he can see the effects since metal is in a different system of it
Not on actions and effects caused by metal, any other thing he can change
Due to metal acausality his causea and effects cannot be seen by precog and neither can be changed
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Please do tell me how yhwach views himself in a future where sonic kills him
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Enhanced Enhanced Power Mimicry (By copying and using other characters abilities), and "Gathered the biodata of both Sonic and Shadow before transforming into Master Overlord, granting him all of their abilities". Reactive Evolution (Gained Sonic's and Shadow's biodata by being attacked by them),
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He simply doesn't sees his death, since he can't see metal nor metal's cause and effect at all
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Okay so he needs his opponent to actually touch him to biocopy?
Yhwach absorbs him
Yhwach absorbs him
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No he doesn't, in sonic heroes he did it by just seeing them, also chaos control to avoid it easily
Hellscream
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show it
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Wait a little, on mobile right now, bu is absortion yhwach's first move?
Hellscream
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absorption has been used multiple times by yhwach as his first move
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How so? IIRC he uses the Almighty mostly first against Ichigo and his friends.
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used it against ichigo, ichibei, mimihagi, soul king, Aizen
also absorbed all powers of all sternritters
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on the 7:48 mark, in the boss battle prior they only attack the mech and never even touch metal at all
Also metal can use chaos control to escape absortion easily
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Yeah no, Metal sonic literally emerges from it
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Aizen only got absorbed because they were catched off-guard and thought they killed Yhwach.
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What are you talking about? He was still never touched at all
Hellscream
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They destroyed that robot or whatever and he literally emerged from it...
after which he says biodata copied, just like all other scenarios where he was physically touched in order to biocopy
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In the very next scene Metal copies the data of Sonic, Tails and Knuckles without touching them even if you're right on that particular scene
Hellscream
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they obviously fought the robot, and metal sonic emerged from it, they obviously touched the robot in order to destroy it
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The robot was already destroyed before, so no they didn't
Hellscream
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okay show proof
Gilad_Hyperstar
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See the video. The exact same robot appeared with Shadow, Rouge and Omega in the previous scene in the exact same state
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While I too feel like the A. Cas is iffy and stuff- it's accepted- if we got a problem about it we gotta make a CRT for it this aint the place
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Uh no?
Hellscream
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The robot was just laying there destroyed already?
Has someone here actually played the game even?
"on the 7:48 mark, in the boss battle prior they only attack the mech and never even touch metal at all"
so they touched the mech where metal sonic emerged from, literally proving my point that he needs physical touch in order to biocopy just like in this screenshot
Has someone here actually played the game even?
"on the 7:48 mark, in the boss battle prior they only attack the mech and never even touch metal at all"
so they touched the mech where metal sonic emerged from, literally proving my point that he needs physical touch in order to biocopy just like in this screenshot
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I was talking about the egg albatros, you know, the destroyed mech behind the robot? They never touched metal
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Did they defeat the fake eggman yes or no
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How is this relevant for the fact that they never touched it?
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Auswählen: The extension of Yhwach's abilities to distribute portions of his soul, which he utilized after being sealed for 990 years to regain the power that he had lost. After selecting whichever Quincies he deems appropriate for absorption, typically choosing the "impure", Yhwach can absorb their power and retake his soul, killing his victims in the process. This power can thus be redistributed to whichever Quincies Yhwach deems more useful, reviving those that have died.
His absorption sounds like it's soul based power absorption in Auswählen and most of it's sub-abilities, which metal doesn't have a soul so it's debatable if that even works on robots.
His absorption sounds like it's soul based power absorption in Auswählen and most of it's sub-abilities, which metal doesn't have a soul so it's debatable if that even works on robots.
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