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The commoners thread: Discussing Ultima's "On the Many, Many Incoherences of the Tiering System"

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Wesker018 said:
How is the tier 0 proposal going? Who is winning?
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Technically Ultima, but there's still plenty of discussion to be done, to the point that it's rather difficult to say who's really winning.

There are also plenty of voters who haven't re-read the thread and it's current arguments, so in reality, the currently perceived "vote gap" is likely far slimmer than it appears.
 
Da3ggman said:
Technically Ultima, but there's still plenty of discussion to be done, to the point that it's rather difficult to say who's really winning.

There are also plenty of voters who haven't re-read the thread and it's current arguments, so in reality, the currently perceived "vote gap" is likely far slimmer than it appears.
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However, technically speaking, only the Administrator and above can vote on a site-wide revision?
 
Wesker018 said:
And what about you, do you want the tier 0 proposal to pass or not? (addressed to everyone here)
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I assume this is being addressed to me. I support Ultima's revision but I don't like his full take on 0. I don't think that all 0s should be equal or be completely lacking parts or quality since some of these things are necessary.
 
Personally neutral about it. I personally believe anything attempting to be the 'pinnacle' of how we scale fiction by any metric will inevitably fall short of the 'limitlessness' of the possibilities of Fiction, unless it directly incorporates that into it.
 
Honestly, I don't mind if he wins, but I hope he gets the concern surrounding the controversial “0” requirements and what it entails.
 
Since I come from a place where the same tier as proposed tier 0 is going for like the past two years, I don't really care about whether everything will change or not. All I care about is Bernkastel getting above Beatrice because what the hell, she ain't weaker than her in neither forms☠︎︎
 
ProfectusInfinity said:
I just thought I'd create a tally of the current progress, if no one minds.

Agree​

Antvasima (Agrees as long as the new tiers have detailed requirements)​

Ultima_Reality (Thread Starter)​

DarkDragonMedeus (Agrees with 1-A being the tier for qualitative superiorities to dimensionality, initially neutral on R>F being 1-A by default before eventually agreeing with it too)​

DarkGrath (Agreed with everything at first, failed to change her mind after hearing the counters)​

Elizhaa (Agrees with everything)​

Sir_Ovens (Agrees with everything)​

Andytrenom (Agrees with 1-A being the tier for qualitative superiorities to dimensionality, disagrees with R>F being 1-A by default)​

Everything12 (Agrees with everything)​

Planck69 (Agrees with everything)​

CrimsonStarFallen (Agrees with everything)​

Theglassman12 (Agrees with everything)​

IdiosyncraticLawyer (Thinks productive changes should result from the CRT, defends all of Ultima's points)​

Phoenks (Agrees with everything)​

Executor_N0 (Agrees that Ultima's post reveals how the current system fails to effectively encompass all of fiction)​

CloverDragon03 (Agrees with everything)​

Neutral​

Crabwhale (Ain't reading allat)​

KLOL506 (Asked some questions, hasn't voted himself)​

AbaddonTheDisappointment (Asked some questions, hasn't voted himself)​

Disagree​

DontTalkDT (Thinks the notion of composite hierarchies already addresses Ultima's concerns regarding R>F equalization)​

Agnaa (Disagrees with everything)​

Qawsedf234 (Thinks it's unnecessary to create a new system aimed at categorizing all of fiction effectively, as such is impossible)​

Deagonx (R>F is simply better off likened to a single dimensional jump than something beyond dimensional scale)​



Yeesh... I knew this vote would end up lopsided, but this is an absolute slaughter in favor of Ultima💀.
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Time to write up a new tally!

Agree​

Antvasima (Agrees so long as the tier 0 proposals encompass Buddhahood and Parabrahman/Parashiva)​

Ultima_Reality (Thread Starter)​

Dark_Grath (Discussed the proposals with Ultima beforehand, first to agree)​

Sir_Ovens (Agrees with everything)​

Everything12 (Agrees with everything)​

DarkDragonMedeus (Agrees with everything)​

Elizhaa (Agrees with everything)​

Planck69 (Agrees with everything)​

KLOL506 (Agrees with basically everything)​

Neutral​

Firestorm808 (Has only asked questions, has yet to give an official vote)​

Qawsedf234 (Has only asked questions, has yet to give an official vote)​

IdiosyncraticLawyer (Has only asked questions, has yet to give an official vote)​

CloverDragon03 (Has only asked questions, has yet to give an official vote)​

Disagree​

DontTalkDT (Thinks the proposals are artificial in some ways, and overall grounded in No Limits Fallacies)​

Agnaa (Same concerns as DT, basically)​

Mr._Bambu (Disagrees with everything)​

Deagonx (Thinks the theology used as a basis for the proposals doesn't reliably correlate with any notion of concrete scaling tiers)​

Phoenks (Same concerns as DT, basically)​


Ultima's still winning, but it's not as lopsided as it was before.
 
ProfectusInfinity said:
Time to write up a new tally!

Agree​

Antvasima (Agrees so long as the tier 0 proposals encompass Buddhahood and Parabrahman/Parashiva)​

Ultima_Reality (Thread Starter)​

Dark_Grath (Discussed the proposals with Ultima beforehand, first to agree)​

Sir_Ovens (Agrees with everything)​

Everything12 (Agrees with everything)​

DarkDragonMedeus (Agrees with everything)​

Elizhaa (Agrees with everything)​

Planck69 (Agrees with everything)​

KLOL506 (Agrees with basically everything)​

Neutral​

Firestorm808 (Has only asked questions, has yet to give an official vote)​

Qawsedf234 (Has only asked questions, has yet to give an official vote)​

IdiosyncraticLawyer (Has only asked questions, has yet to give an official vote)​

CloverDragon03 (Has only asked questions, has yet to give an official vote)​

Disagree​

DontTalkDT (Thinks the proposals are artificial in some ways, and overall grounded in No Limits Fallacies)​

Agnaa (Same concerns as DT, basically)​

Mr._Bambu (Disagrees with everything)​

Deagonx (Thinks the theology used as a basis for the proposals doesn't reliably correlate with any notion of concrete scaling tiers)​

Phoenks (Same concerns as DT, basically)​


Ultima's still winning, but it's not as lopsided as it was before.
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Only Admin-level and above votes count, so it's 7-3.
 
so If all those who are neutral decided to disagree then it would go 7-6. So unless someone who agrees with the proposal changes their opinion, then everything indicates that the change will be applied
 
wait there are 4 who disagree not 3 lol, and i just saw that there are more admins so let's pretend I didn't say anything
 
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