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We might need to have a discussion regarding that and then we'll need to redo some calculations with whatever scaling system we choose.
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The Big Bad Genshin Verse Revision (Maybe)
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Oh, so basically he mean that like we resist energy manip (not really just representing) that do various affect on normal people body but, it doesn't mean we can resist the actual manipulation of said effect? Eh, don't know how that work since that mean you need have feat covering all basis of said manip or you would just get limited resistance or (limited) resistance to something else that do the samething. But whatever work for you i guess.
About the bio manip with varied affect, i guess @Pikaman can put it up for everyone to choose.
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That's in my opinion more Xiao's ability than the Traveler's. It's just Xiao doing something out of his own volition without giving the person he is doing this for any extra abilities. He could technically do that with other people to whom he didn't promise anything.
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And yet he ignore Paimon and Xiangling call, only to answer to the traveler immediately, it wouldn't really make sense for him to ignore some and just answer the traveler. Still unless we place them in Liyue and outside help is allowed then i doubt Xiao would be summonable in a vs thread.
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Paimon and Xiangling weren't in any danger and answering the Traveler is part of a promise Xiao made which is why the Traveler even had the idea to call for him. Xiao's profile explicitly mentions that he hears cries for help all across Liyue which is supported by the end of this quest from the Lantern Rite event.
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Diseases can certainly be explained with Biological Manipulation and effects on emotions and personality can technically be explained with that as well. I'm just not sure if we can consider that to be the case here since things like emotions and personality are often also affected by powers that don't have much to do with biology in fiction. Was it explicitly stated that these effects are generated by elemental energy affecting the body?
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Yes.
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Can you provide a link or scan? The exact wording can be important for a matter like this. If I'm not wrong, then these Resistances were derived from the effects of the elemental energy in Smaragdus Jadeite that can be caused through close proximity and don't affect people like Vision users though I don't recall them saying that these effects work on a biological level or something like that.
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A Teapot to Call Home: Part I
A Teapot to Call Home is a World Quest that unlocks the Serenitea Pot. Talk to Madame Ping Talk to Krosl Talk to Zhiqiao Discuss the situation with Krosl Find a convenient place to talk to Zhiqiao Talk to Shitou Look for the debris Obtain Smaragdus Nephrite Fragment Report back to Shitou Obtain...
genshin-impact.fandom.com
Here, scroll down to right after the second time Krosl name appear alot and Dr Baizhu anecdote on it.
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Is it because of the fact that Baizhu being familiar with it and the information being included in a commentary he mentions indicates that this is a medical matter? Or do you consider the fact that the personality changes occur in serious cases as evidence for them being extensions of the mild maladies that occur in less serious cases? It would be good if you could quote the exact part that is relevant here, so I can know that for sure.A Teapot to Call Home: Part I
A Teapot to Call Home is a World Quest that unlocks the Serenitea Pot. Talk to Madame Ping Talk to Krosl Talk to Zhiqiao Discuss the situation with Krosl Find a convenient place to talk to Zhiqiao Talk to Shitou Look for the debris Obtain Smaragdus Nephrite Fragment Report back to Shitou Obtain...
Here, scroll down to right after the second time Krosl name appear alot and Dr Baizhu anecdote on it.
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These 2:
Yanfei: I don't know if Granny told you this, but Smaragdus Jadeite is found deep underground and contains very concentrated elemental energy.
Yanfei: If mere mortals come into contact with it, well, they'll be sick in the best case, and in the worst-case, they could even experience a dramatic change of personality. It most certainly would not be "smooth to the touch".
Baizhu: It is abundant in elemental energy, so if someone without a Vision is in contact with it for a prolonged period... Best case scenario, they fall ill, worst-case scenario, they'll suffer great changes in personality and their illness will only ever get worse...
Those are the main stuff for Vision wielder resisting the effect, now whether you guys think it's bio manip or not is being discussed here.
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Yeah, that's definitely you can just figure to yourself.
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A qeustion, is it fine to make Genshin matches while this CRT still going?
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A total revision is going to **** the stat over by alot so go wild while you can.
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Optional summon lmao
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I disagree with Guhua leveling a bamboo forest with a casual sword swing for the reason PhantomØ4 stated in that blog. While assumption of X fictional country represent Y country IRL is a good topic in Genshin fanbase and sometimes start a flame war, it should be better avoided in vs debating.
I agree with Shenhe freezing a tsunami.
Summoning and limited Telekinesis? I heard that it is about their weapons. We VS Battles Wiki now has Weapon Control (which includes "Telekinetically control weapons or weapon-like objects." and "Freely summon weapons to one's side.") to cover this subject.
The island-breaking feat is safe to stay.
I agree with Shenhe freezing a tsunami.
Summoning and limited Telekinesis? I heard that it is about their weapons. We VS Battles Wiki now has Weapon Control (which includes "Telekinetically control weapons or weapon-like objects." and "Freely summon weapons to one's side.") to cover this subject.
The island-breaking feat is safe to stay.
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I mean, a lot of the calcs can just be adjusted/salvaged.
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I don't think that I've ever said something about being for or against the Disease Manipulation and Empathic Manipulation Resistances, so why am I listed like that?Resistance to Disease Manipulation5 (@Nelliels @Jackpact @Naitodesu @Expectro2000xxx @TheGreatJedi13)
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Resistance to Empathic Manipulation
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Here is a reminder for this since nothing has been said or done about this.
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Okay.
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Yeah, there is the matter of Vision users resisting the Xiao's karma. What is conc. though?
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Okay, that makes sense.
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Remove my name on agree to Xiao/Beidou scaling, anyway since it's outright confirmed, vision user should get resistance to all the stuff that Karma can do and Karma should get madness manip since Raozhong went mad from fighting alongside Bosacius who also went mad from Karma, tho i see that we listed that as empathic, would it be changed to madness manip now that it's confirmed to drove other around them mad?
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Well it's a good thing that you took longer because I don't remember this being in the general thread and found it on accident
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Agree with this and because of all the things showing elemental energy can give normal people radiation poisoning. The idea of them doing it to others (at least on purpose) is pretty ridiculous to me but them being resistant to all this is extremally consistent.
There is the fact however that bamboo forests being the same size isn't dependent on Liyue=China. Agree with the other three however... assuming I'm right to assume that you don't agree with summoning. There are multiple scenes in the manga where people outright don't have their weapon for a fight.
The only possibility I can think of besides him hearing those two and choosing not to go there is the more esoteric possibility of him only being able to hear things he's made an oath for.
Well onto the stuff up top here's my votes:
Yes to storm
Yes to bamboo forest
Not sure on tsunami and landscaping
Yes to Pilos Peak
Yes to recalc of ice age
Yes to Musou no Hitotachi
Again no to summoning but yes to weapon control
Not sure on elemental intangibility
Yes on forcefield creation
Again no on empathic and disease manip but yes on resisting it
Not sure on all the scaling
Not sure on the waster sword
Again resistance to madness/mind manip and corruption
Not sure on elemental intangibility flying
See above weapon thing
Not sure on aura
