Someone who sees the thread and knows nothing about Tensura now thinks Velgrynd can't even be 4-B, lol.
Did you read my comment? Even cardinal world planet is so durable that Milim who is top 5 in the verse can’t destroy it let alone the solar system.
I didn't even claim any specific tier for them. I don't know where this 'they should only scale to 4-B' argument comes from. All I was saying is that not all worlds in Tensura have the same size, so it shouldn't automatically scale to Low 1-C.
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Top 5 in the verse means nothing. Where would Milim DC or AP scales so we can scale Planets durability to it. Otherwise what you claiming wouldn't mean nothing at all.
Which scans are you referring to?
I'm not even going to bother answering much here. Just that, this argument makes me laugh so much. The thing with the solar system is that the Cardinal World is very resistant, the only world capable of sheltering the True Dragons and the primordial Demons. Well each world is at least a universe, so the argument with the solar system shit is so invalid. The thing with weak worlds is that, they don't have magicules, like Rimuru's previous universe, which was precisely called weak world.
Of course, this means absolutely nothing. Every world has a "resistance" as I said, and the same thing translates here. The fact is that not all Hypertimelines are equal. Some are above the Baseline. So in short this does not justify in any way why they would not be Hypertimelines.
Cardinal world is low 1C. Literally the most durable thing that exists in verse. Even people who have/can destroy dimensions can’t destroy cardinal world. (Destroying the planet is DC not AP)
You simply didn’t read the cosmology page.
Destroying the planet is yet again DC. And Milim has better both.
You don’t seem to know the difference
Low 1-C dura due to the fact that even people who can destroy low 1C objects can’t destroy it. Nor can they damage it much.
cardinal world scales above. And the world as a whole is already accepted as low 1-C. So since I already have shown that it is about durability and not range all your arguments fall flat.
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A world. Includes the hypertimeline. A dimension holds worlds. A dimension has been destroyed. That means that the hypertimelines (the worlds inside the dimension . Are destroyed) yet that person who destroyed the dimension CANNOT destroy even a planet in cardinal world. That automatically makes the planet scale above even dimensions in terms of durability let alone a single world.
Everyone in cardinal world is already low 1-C via magic. And I mean everyone. Everything you have said I have already debunked
All worlds have a hypertimeline. It is literally what a world is.
Using solar system as an argument for range simply doesn’t work cause it isn’t based on range in the first place. It is based entirely on durability. You ignored everything I listed in my argument. And have yet to prove even a single one of your arguments. Small world translation was already explained that it translates better to weak world. So idk why you keep insisting on changing the translation to fit your argument
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You should have created the scaling chain thread before upgrading all the characters to Low 1-C. So, you shouldn't blame others. I mean addressing this small/weak world's arguments altogether.
Milims AP and DC is low 1-C rn. So logically the planet needs to be as durable .
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I don't know if destroying the dimensions that contain the worlds is enough to say that the hypertimeline is being destroyed too, since the cosmology page says that the hypertimeline exists in the void, even after the destruction of the space-time continuum.
I'll address your points later. I understand what you are saying but I have some other work to do.
Thanks for the scan I will look at them laterI'm surprised by this, honestly... besides the Cardinal World having Veldanava's blessing/power, there are also relics that must be destroyed to do anything, I even remember that the world regenerates, if someone can help me with that scan I would appreciate it. It's not plot armor like other verses that the world is not destroyed by the beings that live there, but the World is set up that way, Veldanava did this.
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Worlds are the hypertimelines. A dimension is the container of those hypertimelines. Yet the dimension itself is destroyed. Which obviously includes the stuff inside it
No, the universes are not hypertimelines, this goes against what was proposed in the upgrade and what is written on the cosmology page.
Your argument does not have so much relevance if you know it in one or another assumption, besides that there is something illogical, for example, as the dimensions that Zalario destroyed, according to you, are the size of the solar system, if what Velgrynd finds difficult to destroy, with his STRENGTH, is a solar system of the Cardinal world, your argument does not make so much sense if you analyze it well.
The scans you posted do not mention what I asked for, besides, there are not even any of the ones I asked for, that's why I did it, isn't it?
If you are going to use this argument, you will have to wait the three months, since for that, you need the same points that were debunked, besides, that it was scaled to Low 1-C per world, due has a temporal Hyperline, that you would understand, if you realize that Vega, owns the world map, which there is one, for each world in Tensura, which reside in alternate dimensions.
I only mentioned that, because that kind of scanning does not exist, unless I invented it.
The Cardinal world is the strongest world because it is protected by the power of Veldanava, and Veldanava created the verse, so it makes sense.
You think it's a universe like ours? You don't even know what you're writing, please, I thought anyone who has touched the verse would know how to tell the difference.
Nah bro, i feel like i need to question this because bro claimed that world contain hypertimeline, yet in OP Elde specifically listed scans claimed that there are small, fragile worlds which < universe, that mean your claim is contradicted by scans themselves, unless of course you have proofs that hypertimeline is even smaller than smallest worlds, that could change thing
Fuse confirms that Velgrynd's power can affect parallel spaces (which seem to be parallel universes in this context) and even other Worlds, and states that she can destroy them, but does not allow to do so.
In the same interview, Fuse stated that Guy Crimson could destroy the World by single.
Worlds are universes at a minimum, and they are weak worlds, not small worlds. Like wtf is this scan of the OP? It seems to me to be a shitty translation (the qualityof the translationis self-explanatory). It was translated as weak, but there is an attempt to force the small just to be able to use this other dodgy scan.
According to the translators' thread, they were not parallel worlds/universes, they were parallel dimensions. I sent it to be translated months ago.
In fact, I translated that, and it says: "Some worlds were small enough that a True Dragon fully unleashed could wipe them out of existence;" Not mentioned as “weak."
I mean, it is official translation, from what OP show
Huh?, isn't it still pose the problem, as you translated it to small world? It still mean that not all worlds are the same in size and it mean supporting the arguments from the OP that scale all and every world to Low 1-C is wrong?
I don't see where he said that though.
Yeah sure but I don't think here we will just say "it also means this so we debunk".
It's a matter of durability, with the Cardinal world being more durable than all others, being the only world that can house and contain the destruction of the True Dragons and those comparable to them. This doesn't show that some aren't Low 1-C, but that some are above the Baseline.
It says that there are small worlds, not that they are all like that, nor are they mentioned as "weak", another thing to take into account is that OTL English, and some parts of Spanish, are not well translated.
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Being more durable isn't automatically make something low 1-c, it is unqualifiably more durable, let alone above baseline, generally speaking. And the OP, from what i reading, that he debunk the notion that is all worlds are the same in size and contain low 1-c hypertimeline, that the problem, from what i gather
I think you are misunderstanding, the OP arguing that, not all worlds are the same in scale, thus generalizing all world to be the same low 1-c is wrong, because from the scans at least, which again you confirmed, there are small worlds, there are big worlds, which are actually supporting what OP trying to say, that is not all worlds are the same, thus generalizing all worlds to be low 1-c is a huge stretch
Then post the full page!
Read the scan you posted; it didn’t state that each alternate dimension world is universal in size.
In the scan, it states that there were worlds without magic, then goes on to mention that there were some worlds that were smaller. So, from what I see, these are two different things. Your words and the words in the scan don’t match up.
Speed is non factor most of the time when Destroying something. I don't wgt speed even matters here.
It didn't say resistance instead weak and strong from what I see in the scans
This was never mentioned. Show me the scan where it was stated that all alternate dimension is atleast of universal size. You made the claim, so send the scan.
It uses kanji in the raws that include both 'weak' and 'small world' statements. Just because you didn't take a proper look at the scans doesn't mean the translation is wrong.
Wasn't one which was protecting the planet was sacred tree? Feldway was trying to destroy that?I'm surprised by this, honestly... besides the Cardinal World having Veldanava's blessing/power, there are also relics that must be destroyed to do anything, I even remember that the world regenerates, if someone can help me with that scan I would appreciate it. It's not plot armor like other verses that the world is not destroyed by the beings that live there, but the World is set up that way, Veldanava did this.
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I'll wait for your blog. It's not like I'm in any hurry or anything, if you'd like. If your blog contains information that would refute all of the concerns I have written in the OP, I would have no problem conceding.
I don't have any problem with this
It was created by Veldanava's power, not by the power of Veldanava containing it. Though, from the scans I see, both have different meanings. Also, even if we were to say it has the power of the creator within it, based on other scans (which you might send if they exist), please explain how much of a difference this would make compared to other dimensions.
Wasn't the planet unable to be destroyed because of the Sacred Tree's roots protecting it? Removing that would have made it easier for Feldway to destroy the planet, or am I misunderstanding this point?
I mean sure. But what's biggest feat of Michael so far.
I agree with Low 1-C dimensions for World line statement but doesn't agree with all Otherworlds are same in size to that specific world line statement world.
Kanji used states it's a weak and small world.
If you don't mind can you share the scans
Isn't subspace is what seperating other worlds?
It was refering to normal planet as example from the context.
I agree
World line is what got Otherworlds Low 1-C rating right.
Can I get the scan where it was stated that Small Worlds contained hypertimelines?
Sure I don't mind it being a bigger than Solar system level heck let's assume it's possibly universal level due to having different time axis for Mai POV.
Same as above I don't mind those small worlds being Low 2-C range as for Mai POV of having different time axis.
Ok sure Guy can destroy the Cardinal universe still don't see Low 1-C here.
Can I see the scan for this claim.
