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Tensei Shitara Slime Datta Ken Discussion Thread 20

091Franky said:
Spiritual lifeforms can be interacted by anyone that can use magic. They are not free from cause and effect. Noone in the series till now have power that is not govern by the votw.

Digital lifeforms are still affected by ultimate skills and all so don't expect much either
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and for what ik there is a magic that can bend the laws.. its on vol16 guy crimson summon
 
091Franky said:
Spiritual lifeforms can be interacted by anyone that can use magic. They are not free from cause and effect. Noone in the series till now have power that is not govern by the votw.

Digital lifeforms are still affected by ultimate skills and all so don't expect much either
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and yeah kinda agree like michael a digital lifeform can be affect by chloe fate manip... REVERSE FATE
 
JV_DLS said:
in the latest volume Rimuru has all the abilities of the angel series doesn't he? what were these skills? And their effects?
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having seven angelic skills can actually make u nearly omnipotent for me... intelegent raphael.....defence uriel....michael strengh....etc
 
Peak said:
Also I can only see an old uncle in that harmless body, so I found Rimuru's sensualized illustration from vol20 strange lol, that's also why there are few Rimuru fanarts that I like, because most of them treat him like waifu
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Well specially people on reddit
 
rainheart said:
but i think there is a chance tho... For veldanava would be th onw who possible to get it since he created all include the all laws..
for digital lifeform i guess its maybe possbile idk but digital lifeform is the upgrade of spiritual being..
which spiritual being has the same nature as elemental spirits and a fragment of great spirit.. they can also be called a living laws
and to put it again a spiritual lifeform also transcend laws while they are the living laws itself and some of them has a ultimate skills also transcend th laws... which like they get 3 time aca4.. and not to mention true dragon the pinnacle of spiritual lifeform with benimaru who almost has the same aspect as true dragon..
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If he created the system, he can be granted for acc type 5
 
Well fr veldanava has been agreed TD2,greater cm1,above baseline cm1,aca5... For prime veldanava cuz he also predate tensura verse..
 
Dread said:
Any proof of that?
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Go see at chapter 16 ep guy ... Veldanava sayd being had eveolve to a level they can communicate with me...
Guy challange veldanava and didnt even lend a hit..
So the possible eay guy can see veldanava is veldanava let him interact..
 
rainheart said:
Go see at chapter 16 ep guy ... Veldanava sayd being had eveolve to a level they can communicate with me...
Guy challange veldanava and didnt even lend a hit..
So the possible eay guy can see veldanava is veldanava let him interact..
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Possibly, so it means he had limited acc type 5 just to challenge him?
 
And second primo demons also exist before the laws exist even before the world exist... But for primo demons still not really..
 
well, it's possible to think so, but this is an exception, isn't it? like, outside of it is there any form or characters with Acas 5 interacting with others who don't have Acas 5?
Dread said:
As ruler of world, anything is possible for him?
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Dread said:
Possibly, so it means he had limited acc type 5 just to challenge him?
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not necessarily, information from Veldanava is quite sparse, the version that he is said to be omnipotent and omniscient has never been shown, only mentioned that he dropped those powers, when he fights Guy, he's not limiting himself or anything, it's just that it's not the height of his power anymore
 
For starters, we don't even know if he transcends everything in Tensura, he's not even the creator of everything, since he has races and concepts that he didn't create
 
Catpija said:
He wasnt even aware of the existence of Demon and Ivarage even though he supposed to be the creator of everything
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exactly what I was referring to, he didn't create the concept of darkness for example, he created only from light, and he didn't know about the existence of the primordials, from Ivarage, he didn't create the dwarves and vampires and so on
 
Peak said:
For starters, we don't even know if he transcends everything in Tensura, he's not even the creator of everything, since he has races and concepts that he didn't create
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In chapter when he fought guy its said that he is the only being when he was born their is nothing exept hem..
And the great spirit born with no purpose..
He also able to manipulate this great spirits to creat demons and angel.. means he can manipulate great spirits which is a type one concept and time being on top of all great spirits.
in IBR if u guys form indo somebody gets veldanava greater CM1 and been agreed as i said before becouse veldq can manipulate great spirits..
Fot TD2 he was a non duality being born before the GS light and dark exist..
And born before all laws exist and he also created laws..
And for ivarage prolly it can be the samr as veldanava born with no purpose an unconcealed pheonomenan..
Or ivarag are the oposite of veldanava hmm i wonder if thats can be ture
 
Peak said:
exactly what I was referring to, he didn't create the concept of darkness for example, he created only from light, and he didn't know about the existence of the primordials, from Ivarage, he didn't create the dwarves and vampires and so on
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Well go read volumes 16 he created the primodial.. by using the power of GS dark and light..
 
Peak said:
exactly what I was referring to, he didn't create the concept of darkness for example, he created only from light, and he didn't know about the existence of the primordials, from Ivarage, he didn't create the dwarves and vampires and so on
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It seems there is someone else who is higher than him, so if Rimuru got chance to beat him, he rly did not beat omnipotent character
 
rainheart said:
In chapter when he fought guy its said that he is the only being when he was born their is nothing exept hem..
And the great spirit born with no purpose..
He also able to manipulate this great spirits to creat demons and angel.. means he can manipulate great spirits which is a type one concept and time being on top of all great spirits.
in IBR if u guys form indo somebody gets veldanava greater CM1 and been agreed as i said before becouse veldq can manipulate great spirits..
Fot TD2 he was a non duality being born before the GS light and dark exist..
And born before all laws exist and he also created laws..
And for ivarage prolly it can be the samr as veldanava born with no purpose an unconcealed pheonomenan..
Or ivarag are the oposite of veldanava hmm i wonder if thats can be ture
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He didnt create demon, demons born independently without Veldanava knowing. being non-duality/predating the duality of only light and dark would only grant type 1.
 
rainheart said:
In chapter when he fought guy its said that he is the only being when he was born their is nothing exept hem..
And the great spirit born with no purpose..
He also able to manipulate this great spirits to creat demons and angel.. means he can manipulate great spirits which is a type one concept and time being on top of all great spirits.
in IBR if u guys form indo somebody gets veldanava greater CM1 and been agreed as i said before becouse veldq can manipulate great spirits..
Fot TD2 he was a non duality being born before the GS light and dark exist..
And born before all laws exist and he also created laws..
And for ivarage prolly it can be the samr as veldanava born with no purpose an unconcealed pheonomenan..
Or ivarag are the oposite of veldanava hmm i wonder if thats can be ture
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Did it really state that he explicitly created the system of law, cause and effect, aka causality?

He is not truly a creator of everything, my guy did not know demon's existence neither Guy's existence
 
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