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Tensei Shitara Slime Datta Ken Discussion Thread 20

Wasnt it established that you need to be impossible to be interacted and specifically stated that its because the causal thing? in which case Veldanava didnt qualify for both of these thing
 
Catpija said:
Wasnt it established that you need to be impossible to be interacted and specifically stated that its because the causal thing? in which case Veldanava didnt qualify for both of these thing
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boiii, the point of acc is being outside of effect and cause system, and that guy created it. Imao, I think the new regulations is just wrong interoperated.
 
Dread said:
boiii, the point of acc is being outside of effect and cause system, and that guy created it. Imao, I think the new regulations is just wrong interoperated.
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Nope. Kinda hard to misinterpret this:
Type 5: Causality Transcendence: Characters with this type of Acausality are completely independent of cause and effect, existing outside causality. Characters of this nature require evidence of being unable to be changed by any effect that relies on a system of causality, meaning that interacting with them normally is impossible.
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Catpija said:
Wasnt it established that you need to be impossible to be interacted and specifically stated that its because the causal thing? in which case Veldanava didnt qualify for both of these thing
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And actually interact dont really means cannot be seen.. it can be mean untouchable.. ur a being that beoyn u can make ur self seen by other but they cant touch you..
 
Dread said:
It seems there is someone else who is higher than him, so if Rimuru got chance to beat him, he rly did not beat omnipotent character
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Veldanava prime is the most powerful being in Tensura so far, even after throwing away his omnipotence and omniscience, he still beat the most powerful being until that moment with one blow and Guy couldn't do anything, and no one could beat him, and he is currently considered dead, as he was at the level of an ordinary human after having Milim, why he didn't resurrect is still being treated as a mystery
 
Dread said:
Boi, I understand the evidence requirement, but it is not must. The guy who created the system is automatically outside of it. He aint acc type 4.
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It specifically says "characters of this nature require evidence". It outright states that to get Acausality Type 5 you must have such evidence. So yes, he would just get Acausality Type 4 regardless of creating and predating such systems without the necessary evidence.
 
rainheart said:
And actually interact dont really means cannot be seen.. it can be mean untouchable.. ur a being that beoyn u can make ur self seen by other but they cant touch you..
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rainheart said:
Yeah interacting normmaly is imposible but the user should can make it posible..
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You said this, but its not like Veldanava has actually cannot be interacted due to causal thing. Guy unable to give him damage might be the effect of Castle Guard
 
Why are we discussing something so far from what it really is? The way that the concepts and beings of the Tensura verse is overrated scares me, it would be better to discuss about something that really implies that it is possible to happen, for me, looking for acc 4 would be something much more useful
 
Everything12 said:
It specifically says "characters of this nature require evidence". It outright states that to get Acausality Type 5 you must have such evidence. So yes, he would just get Acausality Type 4 regardless of creating and predating such systems without the necessary evidence.
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Oh, you mean he created a system inside a system?
 
This is also kind of stupid to argue about, because any evidence or showing of Veldanava is merely machine translated, sure it may seems that it can only change a bit, but there been cases where a total MTL statement turned out to be completely wrong or didnt even exist in slime(yes im refering to that statement about information)
 
And veldanava also sayd that beings had evolve to the point they can communicate with hem.. means before being are evolve they cant interact with veldanava
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Because the creature he created is either

1) scared of him and running away immediately
2) Veldanava is a True Dragon thats emits.....True Dragon's Aura
3) Mindless, like Ivarage

and also i rather doubt that statement, wasnt Feldway always there right beside him before he meet Guy?
 
Peak said:
Why are we discussing something so far from what it really is? The way that the concepts and beings of the Tensura verse is overrated scares me, it would be better to discuss about something that really implies that it is possible to happen, for me, looking for acc 4 would be something much more useful
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true, don't know why people keep trying to talk about tier 1, type 5 acausal, transduality, etc... in slime, let's talk about Parallel Existence instead
 
honestly the guy full of mysteries, hinted so many times that he can come back from death(killed by humans lol) but choose not to even though there is almost chaos everywhere in every world
 
Catpija said:
honestly the guy full of mysteries, hinted so many times that he can come back from death(killed by humans lol) but choose not to even though there is almost chaos everywhere in every world
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Isnt this the WN the LN has no clue wether he died or disapear.. or he chiling at promised land if this even exist.
 
Catpija said:
honestly the guy full of mysteries, hinted so many times that he can come back from death(killed by humans lol) but choose not to even though there is almost chaos everywhere in every world
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I think it's funny and at the same time I like this premise of the most powerful being dying like a normal human, when Milim was born, he was already mega nerfed, but have you ever stopped to think that even with the strength of an ordinary human, he still managed to create Gaia?
 
rainheart said:
Isnt this the WN the LN has no clue wether he died or disapear.. or he chiling at promised land if this even exist.
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No, in LN it is said with every word that he died and Rudra blames himself a lot for it and it is at that moment that he starts to lose his sanity
 
Did you see that the 2 trailer of the Slime movie was released? apparently the villain will not be Hiro or the queen as they appear asking rimuru and milim for help
 
Since the start of the game between Guy and Rudra, many tragedies had occurred.


The first tragedy occurred just after Veldanava and Lucia had their child—Milim.


A terrorist attack took place in the Nasca Kingdom, taking advantage of Rudra’s expedition. It was the work of a warring enemy, and resulted in the deaths of both Lucia and Veldanava.


At that moment, Rudra’s dreams came crashing down.


‘I…I just wanted Veldanava to feel reassured, to accept us…’


Rudra killed his heart, knowing that his lamentations could no longer be heard.
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Veldanava is beaten for the system itself in LN and WN, the difference between the two is that in LN he is treated as omnipresent and omniscient
 
LoganKroos said:
oh I don't know, but what it looks like is that the animation is a work of art, you saw Diablo's cynical look, it was spectacular
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I would be so happy with a season 3 announcement at the end of the movie, imagine Hinata vs Rimuru animated, it's going to be a wonder
 
rainheart said:
Damm shouldnt guy feldway run amok if velda died killed by them..
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Feldway didn't see Veldanava's death because he was in another universe, he only noticed that Veldanava disappeared and was waiting for his resurrection, but when he realized it was taking its time, he started to blame and hate humans for it, Guy realized Veldanava's death, but he also thought that Veldanava would resurrect
 
Okay People are getting their hopes up too high .

Veldanava can only have Transduality type -1 with Darkness and light no higher
Forget about Acausality -5 .I think type -4 is possible (There are few contradictions so I don't want to bring that up )
CM-1 is also possible .
 
Dread said:
If it got successfully, you think Fuse will keep writing?
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I don't know, since vol17 he said he intended to end it at 20, now it looks like he wants to end it at 23, but I think it's definite as his editor has been rushing him to end the story, I would honestly prefer if he ended it and started a new story
 
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