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Tensei Shitara Slime Datta Ken Discussion Thread 20

Ariana said:
I have some doubts after reading ln20 Is Veldanava omnipotent and omnicient?
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In sense that when there was nothing besides his consciousness, he by default be the supreme being. But if you are asking if he can do anything and ignore contract then its more of a question of....could you EVER prove that to be the case?

No. That's why omnipotent or such statements don't really mean anything. We can't verify their validity. You'd need other characters to determine that but they have to be on their level to even know that.

I just think Veldanava was the strongest ultimate existence who could manipulate reality as he pleased but gave up his power and life.
 
Community_Gamer said:
Yeah, they are much slower and weaker. And Kyouka Suigestu kinda negs
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as long as Aizen can affect their core then he would definitely win, as far as I know Aizen can affect information so that wouldn't be a problem for him, and Hinata's only passive is the multidimensional barriers I think, but honestly, I don't give much credit for victory through passive means, I consider Aizen more powerful than 90% of LN
 
Which feat is 10,000x speed of sound? I only remember one character doing 10,000 slashes attack.

Aizen's profile shows he is much stronger and faster than them (especially if we ever get to downgrade the verse speed) but they do have hax that ignores conventional durability and might affect Aizen, like Disintegration or Black Flame Prison. But they'll get blitzed.
 
Metalballrun said:
Which feat is 10,000x speed of sound? I only remember one character doing 10,000 slashes attack.

Aizen's profile shows he is much stronger and faster than them (especially if we ever get to downgrade the verse speed) but they do have hax that ignores conventional durability and might affect Aizen, like Disintegration or Black Flame Prison. But they'll get blitzed.
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I forgot what chapter is that. I think it's 10,000-dimensional ruptures.
 
Mizuki67 said:
yass but i think the cardinal world has rules that prevent people from tensura moving at the speed of light?
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No, Fuse the author is just being a dumbass and tried to apply a more realistic physics in his setting that actively breaks it.

But yes, supposedly no one can exceed the speed of light physically in the LN.
 
Metalballrun said:
No, Fuse the author is just being a dumbass and tried to apply a more realistic physics in his setting that actively breaks it.

But yes, supposedly no one can exceed the speed of light physically in the LN.
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Geld neutralising 10,000 dimensional slashes with corrosion kinda felt weird for me .Space slashes aren't baldes that comes at you one after another so you may nullify it by using corrosion to take the impact or corrode it .
 
I mean if it comes all at once and Geld blocked it with aura he isn't really reacting to them individually, he basically blocked once with his corrosion.
Haven't fully read it V20 yet though, I'm too busy to read novels.
 
Metalballrun said:
I mean if it comes all at once and Geld blocked it with aura he isn't really reacting to them individually, he basically blocked once with his corrosion.
Haven't fully read it V20 yet though, I'm too busy to read novels.
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For now, what is your opinion on the supposed infinite speed using information particles?
 
Peak said:
For now, what is your opinion on the supposed infinite speed using information particles?
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I haven't fully read the last 2 volumes so I'm not fully inclined to elaborate on my thoughts about it, but:

If Rimuru and co. indeed have infinite speed, then Rimuru luring Milim to the Barren Lands should've been a non-issue. Because he could take her there instantly, and if Milim wishes so, she can just go to Sarion instantly even if Rimuru takes her to the end of the universe.

I mean it might be possible but as long as nobody uses it outside of Suspended World then you'd receive strong opposition towards the infinite speed notion.
 
Metalballrun said:
I haven't fully read the last 2 volumes so I'm not fully inclined to elaborate on my thoughts about it, but:

If Rimuru and co. indeed have infinite speed, then Rimuru luring Milim to the Barren Lands should've been a non-issue. Because he could take her there instantly, and if Milim wishes so, she can just go to Sarion instantly even if Rimuru takes her to the end of the universe.

I mean it might be possible but as long as nobody uses it outside of Suspended World then you'd receive strong opposition towards the infinite speed notion.
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I see, I'll wait for you to finish reading the volumes in full, but I want to add that in order to "move" they must transfer to another information, that is, Rimuru and Milim would have to recognize the space they want to go or know the coordinates of the information particle, it's kind of a weird thing that was implemented, but that's what it felt like, it's like teleportation with physical movement(?) lol
 
Metalballrun said:
I haven't fully read the last 2 volumes so I'm not fully inclined to elaborate on my thoughts about it, but:

If Rimuru and co. indeed have infinite speed, then Rimuru luring Milim to the Barren Lands should've been a non-issue. Because he could take her there instantly, and if Milim wishes so, she can just go to Sarion instantly even if Rimuru takes her to the end of the universe.

I mean it might be possible but as long as nobody uses it outside of Suspended World then you'd receive strong opposition towards the infinite speed notion.
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They said they need to spread information particles to move and sending and collecting it to move and its slower than moving directly so they don't used it. It still infinite speed irrc
 
My friend send me this

Details unknown.
Three Phase Bodies and Spirit Life Forms
Ramiris, one of the demon lords, nodded. However, something like eating Milim's food, or something like that
Giant
It is composed of the following three things, such as human beings, which have bodies. cover the The spirit body has a direct connection with the world.
On the other hand, those who basically do not have matter are in a place called the higher spiritual world, and when they leave God, their energy disappears. Love yourself by continuing to exist for this long time
Summoning a high-ranking spirit
High-ranking spirits of A can be summoned from the spirit world by the following.
Must.
Mozu
It is also a serious species that wants to be recognized by making a contract with someone who is proficient in such things by means of various things, and although it is possible, it does not always succeed.
Although they are living organisms such as Veldora, they are able to draw out their bodies on their own by imbuing them with enormous power.
The world has fragments of natural energy, but the spirits below do not. Depending on the strength of the force, there seems to be a portion such as large, but in detail
But when you call out a brute force, it's no doubt that it's often to bring a terrifying wrath.

Here
 
Shiraito983 said:
My friend send me this

Details unknown.
Three Phase Bodies and Spirit Life Forms
Ramiris, one of the demon lords, nodded. However, something like eating Milim's food, or something like that
Giant
It is composed of the following three things, such as human beings, which have bodies. cover the The spirit body has a direct connection with the world.
On the other hand, those who basically do not have matter are in a place called the higher spiritual world, and when they leave God, their energy disappears. Love yourself by continuing to exist for this long time
Summoning a high-ranking spirit
High-ranking spirits of A can be summoned from the spirit world by the following.
Must.
Mozu
It is also a serious species that wants to be recognized by making a contract with someone who is proficient in such things by means of various things, and although it is possible, it does not always succeed.
Although they are living organisms such as Veldora, they are able to draw out their bodies on their own by imbuing them with enormous power.
The world has fragments of natural energy, but the spirits below do not. Depending on the strength of the force, there seems to be a portion such as large, but in detail
But when you call out a brute force, it's no doubt that it's often to bring a terrifying wrath.

Here
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Where did you get this
 
if we take Velgrynd feat off the table for weak worlds I came to the conclusion that literally everyone or atleast 70% of the verse is now planet level which doesn't sit right, True dragons except veldanava=feldway=chloe>zelanus and others then there's midray, gabil, and the 4 heavenly Kings who are also said to shatter planets/stars depending on what hoshi means at that point
 
Starfeldway said:
if we take Velgrynd feat off the table for weak worlds I came to the conclusion that literally everyone or atleast 70% of the verse is now planet level which doesn't sit right, True dragons except veldanava=feldway=chloe>zelanus and others then there's midray, gabil, and the 4 heavenly Kings who are also said to shatter planets/stars depending on what hoshi means at that point
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Dozens of characters becoming 5-B/4-C in the LN is inevitable. It's just how it is in this type of power fantasy story, especially if it's faction vs faction so everyone from each side gets buffs so they can be relevant in the battle.
 
right now I'll make the upgrade later

Tensura have Transduality type 2?

- relating this to say Veldanava created the 7 seraphims fro light then the shadows were born

- let's not use the idea of wn because then light and darkness existed at the same time, existing as the only duality, life and death weren't also duality back then as I cleared up.

- the sin series skill were also born after Veldanava created pure skills as well and he didn't create them from the spirit of light but that's his own power, let's also not relate it to wn as that time Veldanava had information king so he just had, in this term it was relating to the system of duality.

- holy and demonic.. I'll leave that for ...... to explain

now another thing is since all these shit just came into existence when one is being used that means there's a karmic response of the world a dual system that opposes pure things and create negative

now who in tensura should have this?

only prime veldanava Sadly
 
I went back and read wn and found out that milim likely get l2c? because rimuru says the Veldanava sword is something that should be given to milim which will allow milim to use beelzebub

I'm not sure. Has anyone ever mentioned this?
 
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Just realized that the Tensura mobile game's new chapters came out and huh the newest original story chapters actually had a neat feat though it doesn't seem like anyone scales to it but the main antagonist.

The main antagonist of the game, Izis, after becoming a demon lord and thus evolving into a Mirror Empress gained the Ultimate Skill, Amalthea, Mother of the Mirror Realm. And Raphael states that this ultimate skill now allows her to create a mirror dimension the size of a universe. In comparison, previously she was only able to make small pocket dimensions of some locations with her Unique Skill, Megalomania.
 
Peter1129 said:
Just realized that the Tensura mobile game's new chapters came out and huh the newest original story chapters actually had a neat feat though it doesn't seem like anyone scales to it but the main antagonist.

The main antagonist of the game, Izis, after becoming a demon lord and thus evolving into a Mirror Empress gained the Ultimate Skill, Amalthea, Mother of the Mirror Realm. And Raphael states that this ultimate skill now allows her to create a mirror dimension the size of a universe. In comparison, previously she was only able to make small pocket dimensions of some locations with her Unique Skill, Megalomania.
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literally 2-A feat lol she can create an infinite amount too
 
After months of delay, will start reading vol 15 tonight.

Still working on Spirit of the Eternity Sword, however Slime is my next focus, will see about making some new profiles, and will do a CRT afterwards, since apparently nobody has done it yet.

Really want to reread from the beginning at some point, but don't have that kind of time, something for a while down the road.
 
Celestial_Pegasus said:
After months of delay, will start reading vol 15 tonight.

Still working on Spirit of the Eternity Sword, however Slime is my next focus, will see about making some new profiles, and will do a CRT afterwards, since apparently nobody has done it yet.

Really want to reread from the beginning at some point, but don't have that kind of time, something for a while down the road.
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Good reading
 
Celestial_Pegasus said:
After months of delay, will start reading vol 15 tonight.

Still working on Spirit of the Eternity Sword, however Slime is my next focus, will see about making some new profiles, and will do a CRT afterwards, since apparently nobody has done it yet.

Really want to reread from the beginning at some point, but don't have that kind of time, something for a while down the road.
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Good luck
 
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