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Tensei Shitara Slime Datta Ken Discussion Thread 20

Btw i kinda wanna see Zegi vs Zela i wnna see Zegi in action.. well ik prolly he will have to protect the Labyrinth and fight with vega(My prediction is vega became the 6th TD just like zero in WN and also there us some similiarity between them.. They both has azi dahaka) and vega would prolly be stronger surpassed trio demons. But if that the case i hope Zegi go solo in action unlike the WN 4 vs 1... Prolly dino also gonna help Zegi.. cuz dino commanded to go with vega so yeah prolly my theory will be true... But i need some feats for zegi beating zela 1 on 1 cuz zegi only has statement thats hes strong but no particulary feats that can proof that.. and for beni he prolly would rematched with jahil 1v1 i hope so....
And i kinda need some story for veldanava alone prolly some flashback or Velda Come to rimuru at the end of time and space.... Cuz i feel kinda ODD isnt it to early rimuru got tossed to the end of time and space for power ups.. or prolly fuse has other plan...For rimuru being above velda i dont rlly mind with that (Even tho it would be usefull Cuz rims can get TD1-2 and Abive baseline CM1...).. but i do need some tier Up for tensura cosmo..
 
Should the Spiritual Lifeform's Intangibility be changed to Incorporeality?

Because basically Spiritual Lifeforms do not need a physical body and can live only with their soul or spiritual body.

They need bodies only to interact in the semi-spiritual world or the material world.
 
Before they can even blitz they'll have to deal with 6-7 passives .

Lmao even Mikey from TR and according to some extraordinary genius people's calc even Ayanokoji will blitz 80% of the verse otherwise
I think this is super funny hahaha a superhuman character blitzing a supernatural being that destroys stars

What saves Tensura from not taking a stomp from the high tier beings is regeneration and tons of passives based on aura and thought lol
 
Should the Spiritual Lifeform's Intangibility be changed to Incorporeality?

Because basically Spiritual Lifeforms do not need a physical body and can live only with their soul or spiritual body.

They need bodies only to interact in the semi-spiritual world or the material world.
Yeah agree... They just need body to incernate and interact in semi world...
 
Should the Spiritual Lifeform's Intangibility be changed to Incorporeality?

Because basically Spiritual Lifeforms do not need a physical body and can live only with their soul or spiritual body.

They need bodies only to interact in the semi-spiritual world or the material world.
I think it's really intangibility, in the manga (I don't remember in LN) while Rimuru is going to Ingracia, he faces a demon that is a spiritual life form and Rimuru's sword goes through him when he tries to hit him, And of course, it's said that it's because spirit life forms nullify physical attacks and Rimuru had to use magic to hit him, Is this not in the requirements for intangibility?
 
Prolly would be easy if its Diablo,zegi.. but shion still has many chance tho.. remember shion tyrant king can bypass aca4... And its also stated absolute....
Il made hem vs Diablo since diablo can neg shion Chaotic fate..
You did something difficult...
 
Should the Spiritual Lifeform's Intangibility be changed to Incorporeality?

Because basically Spiritual Lifeforms do not need a physical body and can live only with their soul or spiritual body.

They need bodies only to interact in the semi-spiritual world or the material world.
No some may get both .
Well not so sure. The demons have limited Incorporality and Intangibility .
I think they can get Incorporeality (Not limited ) based on that highlighted Line
 
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By the way should we downgrade WN Shion's Tier ?

Diablo was probably talking about only physical strength in that context .Should that statement alone be enough to give her 3-A jump from just 6-A ?
 
By the way should we downgrade WN Shion's Tier ?

Diablo was probably talking about only physical strength in that context .Should that statement alone be enough to give her 3-A jump from just 6-A ?
I don't think so, strength in Tensura is constantly used for general power, so I think "likely" accompanied is fine
 
By the way should we downgrade WN Shion's Tier ?

Diablo was probably talking about only physical strength in that context .Should that statement alone be enough to give her 3-A jump from just 6-A ?
Yeah actully i agree.. its a bit odd makin all chara 3A just by equality with no further feats.. diablo,zegi,dino,beni should be downgrade to.. unles we can just say they three are stronger than dagruel sure..
 
How do we treat 10m and 100million perception amp?
10M should be downgraded to max relativist+, as Rimuru found the perception at 100M times to be able to perceive light impressive

On the other hand, I believe that 100M of volume 15 must be at least FTL, already volume 19 should be infinite he was able to keep up with the information particle that has infinite speed
 
in which vol? Also how much can testa increase her perception by any idea?
in volume 15 Rimuru after improving his thinking acceleration to hundreds of millions of times he says something like "surprising even the speed of light can be perceived" as if it were something really amazing, so probably 1M times is not capable, despite being stated several times that 1M already made it seem as if time had stopped, but I think we can use Rimuru and Milim as a base (volume 6), since even with thought acceleration he was struggling against Milim, and Milim at that moment was probably hypersonic at best
 
my 3am thoughts-



why no one in tensura mftl+ yet?

if someone can move faster than rimuru who can thought 1m ftl then that mean they can move at that speed n their reaction speed should be +x100m ftl bcuz of thought acceleration (1m-100m faster than normal) no? and ppl that do the same thing should scale to x1m w T/A🤔

in time stopped their movement should be million times faster.

anyone can calc fast they move
 
my 3am thoughts-



why no one in tensura mftl+ yet?

if someone can move faster than rimuru who can thought 1m ftl then that mean they can move at that speed n their reaction speed should be +x100m ftl bcuz of thought acceleration (1m-100m faster than normal) no? and ppl that do the same thing should scale to x1m w T/A🤔

in time stopped their movement should be million times faster.

anyone can calc fast they move
because LN has nothing to do with WN and you shouldn't assimilate the continuities, and Rimuru thinking MFTL+ doesn't mean he (the body) can escape it, and it was also stated that no matter or particle (with the exception of the information particle) can move above light, and they move 1 million times faster in time stop they don't have in LN
 
in volume 15 Rimuru after improving his thinking acceleration to hundreds of millions of times he says something like "surprising even the speed of light can be perceived" as if it were something really amazing, so probably 1M times is not capable, despite being stated several times that 1M already made it seem as if time had stopped, but I think we can use Rimuru and Milim as a base (volume 6), since even with thought acceleration he was struggling against Milim, and Milim at that moment was probably hypersonic at best
Here's the math.
Rimuru can perceive a single second as 10 years. Let see how fast that is.

60 x 60 = 3600 x 24 = 86,400 x 365 = 31,536,000 x 10 = 315,360,000 seconds in a decade
315,360,000 s x 299,792,458 m/s = 9.45425496E+16 m/s
9.45425496E+16 = 94,542,549,600,000,000
94,542,549,600,000,000 / 299,792,458 = 315,360,000.1505041x SoL

Base Rimuru

94,542,549,600,000,000 / 100,000,000 = 945, 425, 496 m/s = 3.15360000151 x Speed of Light.

I'm not saying this is the case but this is how the math would line up.
 
Here's the math.
Rimuru can perceive a single second as 10 years. Let see how fast that is.

60 x 60 = 3600 x 24 = 86,400 x 365 = 31,536,000 x 10 = 315,360,000 seconds in a decade
315,360,000 s x 299,792,458 m/s = 9.45425496E+16 m/s
9.45425496E+16 = 94,542,549,600,000,000
94,542,549,600,000,000 / 299,792,458 = 315,360,000.1505041x SoL

Base Rimuru

94,542,549,600,000,000 / 100,000,000 = 945, 425, 496 m/s = 3.15360000151 x Speed of Light.

I'm not saying this is the case but this is how the math would line up.
It would be interesting if I had an estimate of 1M times but I think Fuse will not specify since it will probably already be above FTL, but MFTL+ reactions is already good
 
Can any one of y'all help me find scans of votw governing the laws in several worlds?
This?
“Still, I can perform research into it. And what I found was that in this world, magic is the power to interfere with the laws of nature. There’s a mysterious set of laws to this world—people call them the World Language—and when you earn a new power, or the value of your life rises in some way, like when you evolve, then that’s how nature tells you about it. Magic runs under the same rules as this World Language; when you cast the spell, it turns that nonphysical phenomenon into real life. And if you look at it the other way…”
Yuuki paused. I tried to guess where this was going. Look at it the other way…
“Everything has a cause and an effect, and if you figure out the laws behind all that, you might even be able to find a way home…is what you’re saying?”
I was familiar with the World Language. My skill, the Great Sage, used the term when talking to me. It was my familiarity with it that led me to that conclusion.
“…Right. That’s very good, Rimuru. I’m surprised… You understood a concept that I had to spend years researching.”
Take the concept of “returning home,” render it into a set of laws, and translate it into the World Language. Easy for me to say, but trying to discover those laws would take a lifetime of research. Even with that much effort, it may not be possible at all.
But if you were able to interfere with the World Language on a deeper level… (volume 4)
 
By the way should we downgrade WN Shion's Tier ?

Diablo was probably talking about only physical strength in that context .Should that statement alone be enough to give her 3-A jump from just 6-A ?
Its not abnormal, Rimuru literally jumped from 6A to 3A in a single fight, Shion has one year timeskip to get stronger.
 
because LN has nothing to do with WN and you shouldn't assimilate the continuities, and Rimuru thinking MFTL+ doesn't mean he (the body) can escape it, and it was also stated that no matter or particle (with the exception of the information particle) can move above light, and they move 1 million times faster in time stop they don't have in LN
does LN TA n WN are different?
 
Damm never tought it would be a hard debate shion vs yhwach..
Im gonna make Diablo LN vs yhwach or should i make diablo WN hmmm..
Diablo ln has no acca4 but either way he has HGR.. hmm
 
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