I think this whole mystery involving Masayuki is really cool and I think Veldanava has some kind of involvement in it too, actually I thought of something, if for some reason Masayuki manages to summon Veldanava, as he summons beings at their peak, will the skill be able to bring Veldanava before dropping his powers?
Do you think we got a chance for a higher current tier tho?
I only wanted Diablo to have a pitched battle against Zalario but Fuse cucked that fight. Unfortunately I don't think Diablo participating in any other fight will interesting. Zegion's obviously gonna get his moment. He has plenty of great statements that confirm my placement and ideals about him. Testarossa does need a good fight and more supportive statement IF we are to believe she's Diablo's foil and top tier.
I agree. I just want Chloe to continue the role she's been playing. Which I think she will, she's probably going to a time god at this point that can overcome any obstacle.
Definitely 4-C. Milim's the strongest enemy with the most mana and highest output from I deduced and she only threatening to destroy stars (not necessarily all at once). So I don't really see any room for universal since Guy, Rimuru, and Velgrynd all consider this a worthy threat.
HGR? I'm blanking
I'd rather Milim find control herself and her fight Feldway or something. The Evil God seems stronger than Veldora at least but weaker than Adult Ramiris. I'm not sure how well Dagruel will do against Veldora we don't know all of their abilities.
Probably not since Masayuki is providing for their powers by creating Digital Lifeforms versions of them. They aren't the real entity and besides Rudra was one that really summoned them. Veldanava is to sizable of an existence for him to handle besides it ruins the story
No not at all, not from what I've seen
It's been so long since Diablo has had a good fight that I don't even know what level he is anymore, if Diablo is as powerful as Zalario, then he would be close to Leon's level, honestly I expect more from him, so i want him to have some proper fight
I don't think she is stronger than Diablo, although they are comparable, I have more doubts about Carrera, but with that Kondou weapon I even question if Carrera is top 1 or 2 of Rimuru's subordinates, at times it even seemed like she's superior to Zegion, I honestly don't know, but I'm actually happy with how Fuse left Verse well matched in power
Yes, actually, at least this was the 2nd best volume of Slime, it was really a full plate for Tensura fans, I'm just scared if the story ends up being rushed as Fuse confirmed there are only 2 volumes left, about speed, I don't really say about it itself, I think it's going to be infinite combat speed, but my biggest doubt is about the real difference between digital lifeform and spiritual lifeform, apparently both can move in the time stop and both can have the same speed interfering with the information, so I wanted to know what is the difference between them
Yes, it's definitely stellar at best, at least in the cardinal world, since Velgrynd's statement is about destroying "weak worlds" by releasing all the force, but true dragons can already do that in the cardinal world which is a "strong world", maybe there's something to be discussed about it when we release good translations
high-godly regeneration, we know that Rimuru has it because it was said by Raphael that he can regenerate his soul and physical body even receiving the meltslash, that's because he has infinite regeneration, but in volume 20 it was said that Shion (who also has infinite regeneration) cannot regenerate if his heart (core) is destroyed, wouldn't that be mid-godly regeneration? Also because infinite regeneration also only works because the skill is stored in the core too
We can't rule out that Ramiris may be overestimating herself as she usually does too, as this is often used as a comedy
True, I also wonder if he can move on time stop
I think she'll only be able to do something with some help, I just can't imagine who, I'd like to see Velgrynd fighting seriously after her evolution too, but it looks like I won't
That's what I thought, Masayuki's power is still part of the system so I think it's more likely that he can only bring it to the peak of the system itself
very difficult question, I think each one has a different list because the godtiers are well balanced, but for now i leave it like this and i can change over time
Actually, I don't know if Rimuru is above or below Guy, but Guy managed to suppress Milim for about 3 days as I recall while Rimuru was barely hanging on for a few hours, and Masayuki/Rudra prime is probably equal to or better than Guy I think
Rudra at his peak is the same level as Fedway, don't forget that even nerfed he is easily stronger than Fedway's secondary body in addition to being comparable to true dragons, when he is at the peak of his ep with uriel and the new skill of masayuki he can easily be the strongest after veldanava, he is not god's apprentice and favorite for nothing
May I know the best haxes of them. Kinda curious
I don't Leon is as strong as Zalario. Zalario was holding back quite a bit and was reluctant to fight. They are only comparable in their fighting ability and Zalario doesn't rely on skills (mainly because he didn't have one) so Leon is more proficient with his skills in comparison. Also Zalario's ultimate attack surpassed Leon's and Soei's combined.
I don't Testarossa is stronger than Diablo but she similar hype like him and interesting implications about her power. At least up to V16. Anyways we'll see. Carrera has always been best in my mind. Not the best fighter but definitely the strongest. She has only been increasing her skill level and ability since evolving. If she reaches Zegion's level then she'll definitely be the strongest under Rimuru. I wouldn't be surprised if she can fight evenly with Veldora. For now I have her #2, Zegion is clearly #1.
Speed is all about the manipulation of information particles. If Dagruel can manipulate information particles as easily as in Suspended World that'd explain his movements. Information Particles always exist but its easier to transfer and discover their position because no other particles will have activity or movement when time is stopped. I don't know if Fuse will develop this further. It makes you wonder how Chloe completely blitzed Rimuru and Ciel for example.
No one can regenerate if their core is erased because that's core of who they are. And only True Dragons and Primordials can come back if they core is destroyed. So it may sense that Rimuru wouldn't be able to come back from that.
Normally that's what I would've thought of but Benimaru is taking her words seriously about the Evil God's power. And with this being brought through exposition from Ramiris it'd make sense if it were true. Especially when think Rimuru asking for Ramiris. It reinforces that Ramiris had to be strong to interfere like she did in the past. Being the presence of Milim and Guy's full power ain't no joke.
Glassord is pretty impressive for understanding the importance of not relying on purely but yeah Luminas already said that Albert would lose either way.Glassord won by difference in energy and raw power I think, Albert may be more skilled than Benimaru and Agera in the sword by the looks of it, the trio Adalman is wonderful, a being of less than 1M competing for some time against a being of 10M
I love best dragon Velgrynd but honestly I know everything about her and her abilities that I don't need her to fight. Just helpful is enough. I just like her having screen time is enough. I don't think she'll fight anyone stronger than Feldway. She was minimizing damage to planet, but hey maybe she'll fight Milim for a bit. Although I don't think temporary body Feldway could do that and she's weaker than him. Then again I could underestimating that Feldway especially he still would have Michael's powers minus the DFs. And that Feldway was only shown inferior to Rudra but not completely. Since he didn't go all out, relied on Castle Guard, and was only critically injured nothing more.
I don't think Ivarage has the scaling to above Milim although he may later. He probably won't have as much energy as Milim. I don't think anyone will.
Ivaraj that high? Did he do something in volume 20?
Hopefully the LN doesn't run on entropy like WN. The of time and space wasn't even actually the end in a metaphysical sense. Just to stopping of expansion of space-time.
No. I think it's mainly assumptions about his evolution. We don't actually know how strong he is currently.
Here i thought he did something bro's been hyped up too much
Really Rimuru is not necessary now, since it has Rudra, Chloe, Guy and Milim (when recovering totally) to face Feldway and the rest of the enemies, although I do not think any of them has power to end Feldway for now Chloe can use reverse destination.
yes, but the time he can stay using Masayuki's body is short, but inwardly I also put him up there
Most of the godtiers' hax are very satisfying, in the case of Masayuki, his skill passively manipulates luck, gives him the power to summon heroes in their prime in a fictional way and Masayuki can also let one of the most powerful beings in verse take control of his body
Yeah however Chloe recovering from evolution and Rudra can't come out anymore, not for the time being. I do think Chloe can take care of everything herself too so it's good she's chilling rn.
I think Benimaru has done great. They really emphasized his intelligence, diligence, competence as a general, and his skill as a warrior. It doesn't feel nearly as forced WN where's he's just top 3 for no reason. He's more like top 5 or 6 which is good considering there 18 Million Class/Awakened Demon Lord class fighters in Tempest and 10 Demon Lord level figures. For a random orge in the forest he's griwth has been insane, not just physically but his influence as well.
Inb4 Chloe and co beat everyone without him. I don't want them to fail against the finial villain only for him to solo. I wouldn't mind if he got the finishing blow or it was a collective effort. Or maybe it'll be strategic and coordinated not simply overpowering someone. I just don't want Rimuru to be the strongest. I want a close race with several contenders.
All are at least Special S from what I gather. But they vary in strength quite a bit.
What's crazy is Prime Rudra is strong without relying on magicules. Or even much spiritual particles. Then again much like Secret of Faith and Grace, its obvious that the beliefs of trillions surpasses most things in series.
Yes, but at the very least I would say Leon is comparable to Zalario
I can't disagree with that, but I don't know if Fuse will just let Diablo down so low, I think Diablo is Rimuru's most hyped subordinate
I agree with that too, about the two volumes, i had the source but i lost it, i'll try to find it later
So in that case do you agree with me that Rimuru's regeneration should be downgraded?
I wonder how something extreme like that would happen in the labyrinth, I say, Dino is strong, but the situation is still not very favorable, Vega I take a step back, I don't think he's a big deal, in Ingracia he was using the underground people and Testarossa and Hinata were restricted so as not to destroy the nation, so it was kind of unfavorable, for now i don't know if that will be enough, Feldway should send some reinforcement to the maze if Fuse wants to take advantage of Ramiris' potential
Yes, in the webnovel everything was resolved in one chapter because the enemy was only Yuuki, but now this situation becomes kind of impossible, even with Rimuru getting an upgrade, I doubt that Fuse would push it enough to the point where he would solve everything with ease, not after all the effort to balance things out
Ultima and Adalman went higher in my concept, I mean, I already liked both characters a lot, but I felt a greater value in them in relation to power in this new volume
I wouldn't actually put her below Feldway in that body, Velgrynd was holding back so as not to destroy Ingracia and also worried about protecting Masayuki, she also lost by getting distracted by worrying about Masayuki kneeling down, and she was so limited in that moment that neither used any of her haxs nor parallel existence she could actually, so my fanatical Velgrynd side will defend her here, she was also stated to be able to suppress Milim for some time and at that point she was at 70% of her real strength, the difference being that she wouldn't be able to protect the planet in the process.
I'll answer the rest later because I'm out of time right now, but it's not even that I'm hyped, it's an estimate given the way they treat Ivaraj, at least I think he's the only one in the series who can reach the amount of energy of Milim
Diablo is clearly one and veldora second carrera 3rd even if carrera judjment bullet is broken Diablk isnt a guy that underastimated his opponent he would analyze the outcome and destroy hes enemy quickly while Zegion would Use hes US/Illusion before Carrera even relize..
For Zess and Period Carrera Still use prep time for period.. and Zess hes to underestimate hes opponent to much and dunno that Carrera has a trump Card.. and for now Beni could also wins fight agains Carrera if he use Prominence Acc but that gonna have to be A luck games if Beni misses those attack on carrera than carrera wins..
Nahh Even that rimuru Can regenrate hes IP and soul,Skills.. and Rimuru also a true dragon and i dunno if this count but rkmuru should get Conceptual resistence due holding Veldora aura which almost erase rimuru Himself.. when rimuru wanna Ate veldora.. Cuz its stated than rimuru Body almost being erased From existence..
Leon EP likely Should be 19.000.000 can be low or higher thk sjnce it stated that not that far from zalario.. and leon still Below Diablo in term of strengh and experience more likely Diablo prolly hide hes true EP..So im guessing that hes true battle form like the WN can get a higher EP.
Nah. I don't think being able to output power over Soei and him combined would suggest otherwise as well the surrounding statements. They aren't comparable power wise. Leon and Soei even new they wouldn't be able to win.
Carrera can beat Zess but she's not stronger than Zess and its not even clear that she would've one her battle of attrition. So overall I'd still have Zess above Carrera especially since Judgment is once a day (although she definitely used it multiple times in V15. I assume it was because of Kondo like it was in V20).
My problem is that Rimuru hypes up Diablo unreasonably at times. So the community is more inclined to believe Diablo can do just about anything some people really believed he could beat True Dragons. Diablo definitely up there among the top tiers but he's not even stomping the top of the top tiers.
Ok
Umm..maybe I'll have to look at definition and think about it
Yeah I agree
Yeah I hope so
Yeah they were good. But Gadra went harder in my opinion
The issue is that Velgrynd thought Phantom King was probably stronger than her in V17 and it blatantly says that Feldway had power surpassing Velgrynd AND Rudra says the Feldway was holding back because he didn't use JKM. Also a lot top and especially god tiers can control their destructive capabilities so its really a concern where they are fighting. Besides there was barrier up for the very purpose of minimizing damage.
I assume you you are serious. Well I'm not including god tiers so no Veldora. You do realize that Carrera can fight Zegion for days on end right? So clearly he's not just immediately beating her although she hasn't beaten him. She even says that she doesn't even scratch his body in their battles and Ultima confirms that Zegion one shots them if they are hit.
I think that a mistranslatuon. There were a lot of times it said things "weren't" or "were" something, when it meant the opposite.
