Where did you get that ?
Yes it counters its intangible can phase trough material objects an can hit Reinhard.
She would know Reinhard doesn't even have anything , He cant even resist it.
Where did you get that information?
As soon as he thinks "I want my Blessings".
Its never explicitly stated if she gets the names and details of her opponents abilities. In fact, she couldnt sense great sage or the fact that he had a substituion power that he could use otherwise Rimuru wouldn't hafe gotten away the first time
Reinhard has NPI feats with his bare hands. Anyways, zabazab already explained why Hinata wont hit him in cqc
Whats your proof? Your word?
Disagree, she needs to throw it with ill intent and thus it would be categorized under "projectile" by the blessing
From the scan about teleportation being her last resort as she wanted to fight Rimuru with full power. And if you are asking about Reinhard, the author has stated multiple times that he could hafe unending fights with characters like Regulus and Satella that will last for eternity
Actually since Od Laguna wouldn't want him to die and we have previously seen that he can get blessings faster than he realizes them. It would probably be even before he could think that
It doesn't mean he absolutely cannot be hit. It means it's just hard to him him.
Hinata can steal his blessings non-stoppingly and find a way to beat him when he is vulnerable.
Tensura Characters have resistances against that stuff here you go unlike Reinhard.
Proof, I cant see it on his profile.
Power Absorption (Can steal the abilities of others) Power Mimicry (Can copy and learn her targets abilities)
normally winner between 2 different spiritual life forms is chosen by who can fight the longer and this is basic knowledge in Tensure so nobody wants to make any small mistakes not because teleportation needs too much energy.
Can I get a proof.
I know that but didn't he got killed because he turned off some of his blessings when he was fighting against Regulus ?
Can I get proof of Od Laguna instantly giving him his blessings back not when Reinhard realizes it?
He is just as strong, but he can't beat "cheaters" without his Blessings, cheaters being Authority Users. Regulus is literally invincible and negates any defence.
I mean as soon as he has time to think he'll be aware that he recieved a Blessing, but by the nature of reacton he recieves the Blessing before he's aware that he has it. If he'll die, he'll recieve the Blessing he needs, within reason.
No, becuz Od Laguna would give them to him. Its Od Laguna who controls that not Reinhard.
I am not talking Bout turning off. I am talking about his awareness about his skills Zabazab said he will get his blessings as soon as he understand he lost his blessings.
I dont even wanna get into how much ooc you are going in for rn. Hinata knows that he is weaker than her, she wont be panicking and spamming usurper.
My guy...
Its being added but essentially petelgeuse's unseen hands are intangible and has layered invisibility and he himself is a soul. Wilhelm could still cleave through his hands no problem and due to the floe method this should scale to everybody above him which includes Reinhard. We also got another imagery of Reinhard cleaving through Petelgeuse, who is a soul, with his bare hands
And this just straight up proves my point, she only knows about Rimuru's magicules cap, she wouldn't get crap from rhat when compared ro Reinhard. Its very likely for her to underestimate him
I dont see when zabazab wrote that but thats wrong becuz Reinhard gets his blessings while he is unaware of them. Like his blessing of the phoenix, blessjng of judgement and blessing of uhh the one where he can sing and empathically manipulate them or smth. And thats just in arc 5
why wouldnt they be able to hit one another? Also its not "eventually" Od Laguna should still be at FTL due to giving him blessings fast enough that he needs time to process it, taking Hinata's blessing away would also require the same amount of time
Yes, besides that, it's hard to judge if hinata would hit meltslash before reinhard's matter hax or the other way around, Furthermore, the lack of information about Reinhard complicates it a bit
That means Reinhard gonna get blitzed trought.
Equal speed, both are Rel+, both are already able to dodge lightspeed attacks.
Oh, is the last Key for Hinata? okay.
Would resurrecting people help her here?
Actually nevermind, i trought she could ressurect herself, because someone said that magic could do that, but apparently It can't.
Btw who are you voting for here?
weak statement in my opinion, to say that hinata is so inferior to reinhard is enough to be weird, hinata and theresia just have a similar hax and it doesn't have much to do with reinhard, the comparison between Theresia and reinhard involved their general characteristics and not the analytical prediction, It's just vague and we haven't seen how reinhard handles someone with speed matching those same analytical predictions, not to mention hinata's AP advantage.
I don't think I mentioned Theresia's hax being = Hinata? I just think Reinhard's skill is leagues above Hinata's.
We know he beats Reid who is on his level stat-wise, is superior in skill, and also resists such analysis.
I don't even think AP is worth looking at when hax is the only way they can kill eachother. Additionally all of Reinhard's swings neg durability via spatial cutting and Hinata can't hit Reinhard normally through his autododge.
I actually disagree- Meltslash/Disintegration are very unlikely to hit given Hinata can dodge such SoL attacks, and Reinhard is far more skilled (better dodger).
this is pure guesswork, there is really nothing that puts him above hinata in terms of skill when she is one of the most talented in the verse itself and can also steal the skill (fencing) of the opponent simply seeing
Who resists analysis exactly? Also, you already answered, reinhard beat reid for being superior in skill, what does that have to do with hinata? Analytical prediction will continue to work normally and reinhard being superior to other characters in the verse itself does not interfere with Hinata at all, both are skilled
Hm?? Hinata can't dodge a SOL attack like meltslash or disintegration and reinhard won't be moving in time against a SOL attack
1. Reid Astrea compares to Reinhard in stats and has by far the best skill in the verse to the point that he can straight up cut concepts, pesudo black holes, Space-time eith just chopsticks. He also scales so highly above Theresia in terms of skills that he could chop her and the top 5 of the verse's heads off aside from Reinhard at once
She doesnt have anything in her arsenal to deflect a ******* matter nuke, also already explained why Reinhard would be superior. She doesnt have instinctive reaction either which means not only is she worse in skills but also would be slower in actual combat
Irrelevant to the fact that their skill feats are comparable which would put them at the same level
Ried Astrea
It would mean that Reinhard would have no problem dealing with Hinata in terms of skill
Relativistic+ (Comparable to Granbell Rosso, and can block, dodge, and intercept his Melt Slash attacks that moves at light speed),
???again, where did you get that? hinata and theresia just have similar hax, that doesn't involve anything else, they are not from the same verse
reinhard does not start with matter hax, moreover hinata can predict and act in response
No, they are not comparable.
So this is absolutely irrelevant here, hinata is not gearing up for this character.
Hinata managed to act by her analytical prediction, she moves even before the spell is released and acts in response, and she manages to block it is thanks to the manipulation of particles of information that she has, otherwise, she should have a SOL reaction, which she does not have for the reasons mentioned, things are not so simple as to say "if she can then reinhard can too"
Can you name me a single skill feat of hers which would put her above theresia? Unless you can, my arguement is pretty valid
he does, his godly instincts make him go for optimal play in any given situation. If his opponents greatest weakness is his matter nuke, then thats what he will do
The only plausible thing she can do to survive would be to teleport...which takes a lot out of her supply and leaves her unable to fight at full strength
And your reason for that?
I am not even sure what you mean. You asked if Reinhard could fight anybody comparable to him in stats and Reid Astrea was the answer to that. Also Reid massively upscales from Theresia in skill
Dodging or reacting to SoL attacks only gives you relavistic speeds otherwise she shouldn't even have any relavistic rating at all since you claim she was aim dodging.
if you want to know what a fight between hinata and theresia would be like then topic a game for it, but don't mention other random characters in the topic unnecessarily
he will not know the weakness of someone he is not aware of or even analyzing
She doesn't use or need magic during the fight, and spirit magic doesn't expend any of it.
You really didn't understand what I meant, what I meant is that Reinhard never fought someone comparable to him who has analytical prediction of the level of Hinata, and don't quote theresia because she is clearly inferior to reinhard in all aspects to the point of not even being comparable, we don't know how reinhard deals with someone with analytical foresight that is comparable to him, since he didn't beat Theresia by being resistant to prediction, but simply by being superior in every other way.
No, reacting to SOL attacks grants you SOL reaction speed
Yes, I don't think it's relativistic as most of the tensura velocity scale needs a proper overhaul and that's consensus among supporters.
I have not been presented any skill feats of hers, all I'm going by is "she is almost a genius in battle" according to her Intelligence section. Reinhard is a genius in combat even from the perspective of combat geniuses.
No, Reid is more skilled than Reinhard. Reid is comparable in stats to Reinhard. Reid resists analysis. Reinhard beats Reid in a fight (high-diff).
Again- just going by the page. She's Rel+ for dodging SoL attacks.
I am talking about skill here. Hinata does not have feats surpassing that of Theresia's who could only see imperfections and openings in even the combat masters who have been training their entire life in not just sword style but every single martial or weapon arts that has ever existed.
He doesnt need to, its a supernatural gut feeling that is always correct.
If she stays she dies. She can't stop the matter nuke which only needs a single sword swing from Reinhard to happen.
Firstly, Hinata doesnt have any feat even remotely close to Reinhard's level of skill. Theresia is where her skill caps at in the RZ verse, second you are just outright ignoring previous arguements and explanations which were already made and repeating yourself.
Depends on the calc, the time frame and the distance taken into account not to mention if said character already predicted it or not. Which as you said earlier, she did, thus she gets downsxaled from SoL to the bare minimum required to dodge an SoL attack which is relavistic+
Go ahead and do it then, i am only going off the profiles here
and she is, has always been treated like a prodigy by characters like granbell and yuki, after entering the church to become a saint, in a short time she arrived, fought all 10 saints, copied their skills and surpassed them, that's how she is, like I said, even if you keep focusing on this absurd superiority of reinhard, hinata will simply copy everything she sees during combat, and I don't mean her blessings.
Reid RESISTS analysis, DOES NOT, I didn't say reinhard never fought anyone comparable, I said he never fought anyone comparable who USE analytical prediction AGAINST reinhard, Reinhard's victory is not for knowing how to deal with analytical prediction, but for being superior in other aspects, I've been saying that since the beginning of the conversation.
I already answered that
I don't care about theresia, the focus of the topic is not her so I won't waste time arguing against her, that would just get off topic
I already answered earlier
There is no calculation on top of this, it is simply wrong, all verse speed scaling is broken
You can use it, it's just wrong, these calculations are from years ago, ask any tensure connoisseur and they will answer you the same as me
magic is a skill and it has unconventional resistance to it, so much so that in the verse you need to break the laws of the world to nullify the magic
and Theresia beat every sword master in the country as soon as she picked up her sword. she already knew every sword style the moment she started her path as the sword saint.
She wont be surviving long enough to see most of Reinhard's attack not to mention characters who scale way way way way lower than even Theresia like Garfiel can make up new attacks to counter this ability. no attack will work on Elsa if she has seen it once even if its in danmaku. Hinata's ability to copy sword style is completely and utterly useless here
i am not sure if you are being dumb on purpose or what but Reid Astrea obviously had AP stronger than anybody else in the verse while also resisting Reinhards AP and would still lose Regardless
Hinata scales below Theresia in terms of skill and shouldnt even be compared to Reinhard. you havent shown a single feat absurd enough to put her at even theresia's level
you literally said she can deflect a matter nuke which is just straight up false
thats the verse's fault, the profile is still gonna be valid
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