I seriously doubt that Agnaa is being biased honestly
Fair enough. Bad on my end.
Which I believe has resulted in a lot of miscategorization in the SAO side here. We are talking about literature, the most powerful tool it has is to use words creatively to provide you a very vibrant storytelling, which can easily mislead a lot of people when not paying attention. That is also why I clarified our approach. We care about "everything" when deciding what something is. And if I'm being honest, that is the idea behind your approach here too, it's just that some people just want to reach quick conclusions so they do it backwards. The discussion here about speed is the confirmation of that. You have a clear chart as to which speed fits into which category. So the idea here too is indeed:
Example:
You established a clear stardard of what is a Super Human and regardless what the text states, if the character does not meet that requirement, they are not a Super Human by your standards.
Fanatio does not have any other speed related scenes. Her major appearances in the series is limited to her fight against Kirito in the Central Cathedral and then her fight against the Giants and Sigurosig. The latter does not feature any faster action than the former, so defining Fanatio's speed, it does not help. In regards to the Heaven Piercing Blade's attack, it showcases much better how it actually works like a simple sniper bullet.
Bullets shot from a Sniper Rifle generally move at Supersonic.
I mean, the ray is prety much light.
DMUA, when I said "pretty much" I pretty much meant IT IS LIGHT
This quote is indeed talking about Light Rays, as it is the quote explaining the past of the Heaven Piercing Blade. It is talking about the Mirrors reflecting the light of Solus. How actual weapons function is different. There is no sunlight in the Great Hall of Ghostly Light, so if the weapon was still functioning exactly the same as the prior mirrors, it simply would not work at all.
You do realize this is just how they justify it with the religion they believe in right? Sun Goddess Solus is the creation of Quinella. There is no actual "Sun Goddess", there is only the Solus Superaccount. There is no such thing as "the might of Solus".
This seems pretty classic action terminology. Don't you guys come across these quite often here? Instant barely anytime actually means 0.01 seconds, it just means "very quickly" without any clear description of how fast it actually was."Pretty much" doesn't cut it.
Also I guess there is one superhuman speed feat brought to my attention but I feel like may not go far beyond that.
15 meters a second is good for Superhuman
Why are you derailing with a verse that im pretty sure isn't even on the wiki due to utter lack of combat feats
I see, got it. I would just chalk it up to classic action lingo, but if that is a standard, then I can't say anything about it.
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Luminous Elements are light, you know? Even your very own wiki has it as that.
This part has absolutely nothing to do with what I said. And yes, I know that, again, nothing to do with what I said and not relevant.
It behaves like a ray tho, how do you think a ray behave? It literally goes in straight line, like, always.
Elements are elements. They are not objects you can relate to real things. They are literally "magic energy". "Luminous" means "Shiny", not "Light". All elements have this property of being named after how they look. Umbral Element, literally "shadowy/dark looking element", there isn't a metal element, there is a metallic element, an element that looks like metal etc etc. In the end, all elements behave the same, because how they behave depends on how you discharge them, not what element they are. Their effects are the only thing relying on their element type.
I'm sorry, I tried to pick what could have been relevant to the best of my abilities. I do not see anything else that would be relevant to anything in that quote.
If a bullet had 0 material property, it too would go in a straight line. A actual ray however, compared to a bullet, would be countless times faster because it would actually be light. It isn't. The projectile shooting from the Heaven Piercing Blade has noticable travel time, so much so that someone far away can see the glint of the show, get scared, stumble and fall down, until the attack actually reaches them. That is the definitive proof that it does not behave like a "Light Ray" as you would describe here.
It is not called "Light". It is called "Luminous" element, which literally means "Shiny".
I'm sorry, what? I legit don't get what point you're making here. "Elements are elements" doesn't mean anything neither in favour or against this, the light being "magical" (which, mind you, Sacred Arts and magic aren't the same thing) isn't a disqualifier if it has other requierments (which is the discussion) - and all that explanation of how the discharge command is is completely irrelevant to it being light or not.
I mean, yes, but bullets have nothing to do with the argument here. So your argument here is that ANY beam is automatically disqualified from being light speed if it has visible travel? I'm very sure that's nowhere on our standards, or else calcs like this one wouldn't be used on profiles.
It's called 光素 in Japanese - First kanji literally is the word light.
Look, even if we assume that it's not actual light (giving you benefit of the doubt here), since we don't know how fast it's going, we need to observe it's behavior VISUALLY. In the anime (which is an OFFICIAL ADAPTATION of the source), we see the "light rays" fly in straight lines, burn on contact, bounce off reflective surfaces, and was literally made using mirrors. So even if it's not actual light, it's at the very least comparable to it, and therefore, should scale accordingly. And btw, this is not me highballing or anything like that, THAT'S LITERALLY WHAT YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO DO IN THAT SCENARIO, like in any verse, with any character. Now if you excuse me, I'm outta here. The way I see it, this entire CRT is costing me brain cells and the fact it's still going is ******* sad tbh. Do whatever you want a this point. I don't care anymore. Have a great day, and stay safe out there. Peace
Sacred Arts is system commands. However most of these require the use of Spatial Resources that are condensed into elements. That is indeed a magic system. Limited amount of Spatial Resources around to use that indicate how much you can actually conjure most Sacred Arts. If there are no Spatial Resources around, then you cannot use many Sacred Arts that require these Spatial Resources.
I'll be as clear as possible. It is shooting concentrated Luminous Elements. It is not an actual ray of light. Memory Abilities imitate the "Memory of the Weapon", a fancy way of saying "What the object was before being transformed/transmorphed into one". Again, as explained above, they utilize their durability to unleash Spatial Resources relating to their original existence.
Except Japanese raw also uses the actual English words rather than the Japanese approximations. It's Sacred Arts, it uses the Sacred Script, which is English, written in Katakana. If you look carefully, our descriptions on the wiki use Furigana. There are 2 main uses for Furigana. It either is a helping tool for people to be able to read the Kanji below it, or it overwrites the meaning of the Kanji, aka Kanji is just there to provide a Japanese approximation and not the actual meaning.
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