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Unless Mario Characters have a canonical reason to vary, they shouldn’t be in the Varies tierI think "Varies from 7-C(or whatever) to 4-C/High 4-C" might be a good compromise...
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Unless Mario Characters have a canonical reason to vary, they shouldn’t be in the Varies tierI think "Varies from 7-C(or whatever) to 4-C/High 4-C" might be a good compromise...
the Pure Hearts are not being discussed right nowwhat about the multiversal pure hearts stuff, is that gonna still be there or?
Alright you've convinced me, tier 8 it is then!But literally none of the Tier 7/6 feats are usable so far.
The closest one is the moon thing but even then you can argue indeterminable timeframe.
Black Hole Feats shouldn't be usable so you have like, max 2 tier 4 feats.Also, "outlier" is a bit of a bold claim. Care to prove how it is?
He is literally whatever tier he needs to be for the story as said by Sakurai himself, mentioned in previous threads.Unless Mario Characters have a canonical reason to vary, they shouldn’t be in the Varies tier
Uh…..by Sakurai himself
I don't remember what his name is.
Listen, even if you managed to debunk all tier 7 feats that wouldn't make the tier 4 ones more viable.That's not a rebuttal on the Tier 7 shit.
That's the guyShigeru Miyamoto
Whatever, man. We'll leavee that up to others to decide.Listen, even if you managed to debunk all tier 7 feats that wouldn't make the tier 4 ones more viable.
Uh, it's not "up to decide" at all. They're completely separate, debunking one set of 'em doesn't make the other more viable.Whatever, man. We'll leavee that up to others to decide.
The argument stems from which is more credible and consistent. If all YOU have to rely on is "it's a gag!!!" then I'm sorry but you're in the wrong verse.Uh, it's not "up to decide" at all. They're completely separate, debunking one set of 'em doesn't make the other more viable.
I assume I shouldn't take that as a concession?Nuclear level Mario isn't consistent.
If we're gonna argue "how the characters are nornally portrayed" then Mario is just a regular human with 9-B AP. This is how the public sees him and it's likely how Nintendo does as well.
Black holes aren't credible at all, so no, that's not the case. But I agree, it runs on gags and toon physics, so all the tier 8 feats cannot be discounted as game mechanics.The argument stems from which is more credible and consistent. If all YOU have to rely on is "it's a gag!!!" then I'm sorry but you're in the wrong verse.
Mario runs on gags and toon physics. This is consistent whether you like it or not.
Varies from 7-C(or whatever) to 4-C/High 4-C.I think "Varies from 7-C(or whatever) to 4-C/High 4-C" might be a good compromise...
Quit the spiteAll good things…
No. Double standards are a legitimate cause for concern. It’s not a fallacy to call them out.don't bring up other ******* verses is it so hard
also "Hit Bluto so hard that he destroyed stellar constellations, although this was done by letting him bounce between different stars, not at once" is completely different.
I don't think that the pure hearts will be touched anytime soonwhat about the multiversal pure hearts stuff, is that gonna still be there or?
It was not a mod that created the server and I am currently the owner, and am only a mod for Joke Battles Wiki. Really getting tired of this idea that there is this grand conspiracy to get Mario downgraded. btw, Dino Ranger Black isn't even on the server and made this thread before consulting anyone in it, so please stop insisting that the mods are working together to get Mario downgraded.and it was mods that made a whole server just to downgrade a single verse and then made an unproffesional thread that didn’t even cite any debunks to rush the thread with overwhelming mod support
When is that coming around?there's a revision server for Warhammer 40K and I don't see anyone complaining about that.
When Games Workshop finally finishes their Horus Heresy rewrite.When is that coming around?
No. Double standards are a legitimate cause for concern. It’s not a fallacy to call them out.
Alright, the Popeye feat was different, so there's nothing to call out in the first place. Glad that's settled.No. Double standards are a legitimate cause for concern. It’s not a fallacy to call them out.
Man, and you called it being self destruction an AssumptionKamek references becoming a twinkle in the heavens and we see his amping magic burst from Raphael before he got launched from Yoshi defeating him, it's safe to say it was intended and scales regardless.
Since people love playing the "What about X" game so much, then Saitama needs an immediate upgrade to High 4-C for tanking a "black hole" by this same logic. It apparently doesn't matter if that black hole goes against our standards or how a real life black hole should behave.
Even if this is accepted as a legitimate black hole, I'm fairly certain that we don't give durability for surviving a black hole. We just give them resistance.Peach and the Grand Star pop out of the black hole Bowser falls into which dissipates/collapses. I say this is a black hole because we can clearly see light being pulled into it
Tier 4
- 4-A: Power Stars are capable of creating pocket realms in paintings and walls containing a night sky full of stars. Mario defeats beings amplified by Power Stars
- 4-C: Kamek’s Magic turned Raphael the Raven into a star
Contentious Tier 4 feats
- High 4-C: Power Stars can close black holes - Black holes in the SMG series likely don’t meet our wiki’s requirements for being considered legitimate black holes
- High 4-C to 4-B: A Star moved multiple stars and formed a constellation - This took place within the Party Cube so the stars may not be real, and the Stars in the Mario Party series aren’t Power Stars
- 4-A: This is very much the weakest feat here, but Bowser turned Yoshi’s island into a pop-up book containing stars. I don’t see how this applies to Striking Strength or Durability at all, but it’s been proposed before
Move power stars to contentiousIn this list, I don't have any opinion on Raphael feat. It's gag, but whether to accept it or not, is not something I can say. I don't know if we accept the gag feats in Mario (because there are some).
About the bolded feat, it was said that those stars are not power stars. If that's the case, we should probably remove that one.