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Done. I don't think it'll quite reach 50 tons like Cirno's feat, but it'll be a good backing feat for sure.
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Sunny Milk and Lightning, Very Very Frightening (Touhou Low Tier Upgrade and Ability Addition)
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Wanna clarify that I have 0 calcing skills so this will be less of an actual calc and more of a 'here is everything needed to do the calc'. The high 8-C was just an estimate, I believe.
Okay, so here's Nitori's flood spell card in question (using the Hakurei shrine stage in AoCF since it's a safe lowball, and easier to measure).
AoCF runs at 60 FPS, and the flood moves approximately this far in a single frame.
Here's Nitori's height compared to the three fairies. We know they're 1.387 meters tall, and should have a head size of 0.27391666666 meters (from here). This means Nitori's head size is about 0.29158870967 meters (I feel like I did this part wrong...).
From there, scaling her head to the flood, we find that it moved 1.23285752685 meters in one frame (241/57= 4.228070175438597, 4.228070175438597 x 0.29158870967 = 1.23285752685).
1.23285752685 x 60 = 73.971451611 m/s, which is 266.2972257996 km/h. From there I think we only need to figure out the volume of the flood, which I think also requires estimating how high above the ground they are... yeah, that's beyond my already shitty math abilities. But I hope this is enough info to give someone else the push to do an actual calc of this feat.
Out of curiosity, you got a full body (not half body) shot of Nitori next to the fairies?
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Does this work better?
EDIT: A height comparison of Clownpiece and the three fairies, if that helps any.
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They do, it's just a matter of scaling to physicals, which I got covered.
UES standards aren't really set in stone but the fact that Touhou has a universal source of power that is directly connected to at least one physical stat (stamina) and amps magical and physical power in equal measure will probably be good enough for most people.
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I went ahead and updated the OP with all who agree with the changes.
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Low 7-C+, eh? Nice
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Well, that's a nice surprise. Wasn't expecting to see tier 7 results aside from Raiko's storm stuff, and more importantly this still means there's a clear difference in power between the fodder and the low tiers.
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Oh yeah, since we have the calcs needed for making what will hopefully be the final low tier CRT, we really do just need to get healing approved and we can move on. We got other people waiting for a CRT slot, after all.
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Ye, so... Will yokai like Nitori get the Low 7-C+ Stuff but fairies like Cirno and Sunny Milk will get the 8-B Stuff (assuming that both calcs are accepted) due to the fact that Fairy is generally fodder - not including Clownpiece and Tanned Cirno - or am I wrong?
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Yeah, fairies and fodder youkai scale to 8-B for the most part, while everyone above them will scale to Nitori (and some of them may scale to a tier 6/5 feat). We'll have to figure out just where exactly tanned Cirno belongs in the scaling chain, however.
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We're just waiting on just getting staff in here, right?
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Yes. It's basically just healing, then other users post their CRTs, then I'll post the final low tier upgrade CRT (assuming the calcs are evaluated by then). The fact that we need like 20+ bumps to get a single ability addition approved of is kinda ridiculous if I'm being honest.
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It's just healing.
It's just healing.
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Both calcs have been accepted, by the way
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Very nice. I can get started on a (hopefully final) low tier CRT covering the scaling and getting this stuff applied. In the meantime... We really do just need healing approved and we can move on :v
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Alright, I have done so. Since the accepted calculations will likely need a new thread dedicated to them, I think this one can be closed.
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Woo, my first thread was a successful one! Happy days.
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Just for clarification, the water dragon scales to physical AP why? Late check of the thread and file kinda doesn't make it apparent
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Hope this answer is sufficient. Everybody in Touhou has access ti what is known as 'Spirit', which functions as a sort of energy source for most attacks and techniques in the series (explanation page is here). It fits the qualifications for a UES for a number of reasons, which means that magical techniques like Nitori's water dragon (as well as Cirno's ice creation and Nitori's flood) should scale to physicals. First is that Spirit is treated as equivalent to stamina, a physical statistic. Second is that it naturally empowers ALL attacks, physical or magical. In the bullet hell games, it powers up each character's basic shot, which includes physical attacks like throwing weapons and sword slashes. Finally, Spirit is also equivalent to Chi/Qi, which also empowers physical statistics.
Granted, this isn't on any page yet since I was hoping to cover it in a thread dedicated to applying the accepted calcs, but I guess getting it out of the way now is fine.
Granted, this isn't on any page yet since I was hoping to cover it in a thread dedicated to applying the accepted calcs, but I guess getting it out of the way now is fine.
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